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papz 04-25-2010 08:25 AM

Grade our draft
 
Yes I know there will be some saying we fully won't know until 3 years later... but it's not. How do you think we did?

foreverfan 04-25-2010 08:32 AM

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Actually I give it a B+. Love the TE pick. We got great VALUE in every round.

neugey 04-25-2010 08:36 AM

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Like Kiper said, hard to have a great draft with the 32nd spot. Actually a C+ for making that trade with Jacksonville and getting Tennant.

MorningWood 04-25-2010 08:46 AM

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I had to give the FO an A.

I know some people were more than a little hysterical when the team didn't draft certain positions, but when you look at the draft in terms of getting value, taking into consideration draft position, the team did outstanding. I have seen three of our picks listed as being among the top "steals." That's good stuff, maximizing your draft picks.

Plus, it looks like we have done well picking up undrafted free agents.

There is one helluva TC coming up.

MorningWood 04-25-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 221821)
Like Kiper said, hard to have a great draft with the 32nd spot. Actually a C+ for making that trade with Jacksonville and getting Tennant.


And that's what I don't understand -- draft grades should be about value given your draft position, IMO. Oh well, at least Kiper did acknowledge our limitation.

CheramieIII 04-25-2010 09:12 AM

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C that maybe upgraded to a B depending on how many contribute this season.

MorningWood 04-25-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 221829)
value, shmalue... no cap this year so we just shoulda picked men to help us get back to the super bowl!


The equivalent of hitting the panic button.

D_it_up 04-25-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 221819)
Actually I give it a B+. Love the TE pick. We got great VALUE in every round.

I'm with you, foreverfan. I give it a B+, as well. I just seem to like the guys drafted even more after reading about them. I think we may look back in a couple of years and see this to be a very stellar draft.

foreverfan 04-25-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by D_it_up (Post 221838)
I'm with you, foreverfan. I give it a B+, as well. I just seem to like the guys drafted even more after reading about them. I think we may look back in a couple of years and see this to be a very stellar draft.

I'm with ya being with me. I love the FA pickups too. :bng:

Pete 04-25-2010 10:16 AM

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I must say I was a little disgruntled about some of the players we passed on but I know we do a have a scouting team in place that has surely gambled and are coming away with good percentages on quality players.
Solid B

CantonLegend 04-25-2010 10:29 AM

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lots of good talent in our picks......but didnt really answer the questions we had coming into the draft

we need to do something about our poor run defense still

FrenzyFan 04-25-2010 10:52 AM

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I felt similarly to this after last years draft. Our picks last year were lackluster at best. If you recall we passed on Cushing, and Orakpo. We selected Jenkins as the "better value" even though he's a CB who many say can't cut it there and needs to be a safety. At least he contributed on special teams but he was also an injury concern last year. The best move we made was the punter, and that was something of a surprise especially considering one of the best things he added for us was on kickoffs!
We won it all, but I don't see our run D getting any better from this. Maybe the thinking is that teams can't keep up with us in scoring by running - they have to pass. That being the case, we don't need a run D. It seems to me we needed to do something about defending the run, replace Fujita, and upgrade Shanle (even though I know he's consistent if not flashy). We didn't.

strato 04-25-2010 10:57 AM

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I like the picks more and more...Wish we could have landed Jerry Hughes..Damn Colts....lol..but a i gave it a solid B...I think there are some UFA that might even be better than our picks...I hope Galette makes the team..i can see him a situational pass rusher..The kid out of Texas Tech..could be great depth on the O-line...he played in the Big 12..and handled Suh and McCoy easily...The TE..im thinking Shockey and Thomas will help him a lot...and lastly i think the Charles Brown {like the name..think "Bells will be ringing",,lol...could be our future LT...so all i all its a solid draft..The biggest question mark to me is DT..and LB...did we really upgrade?...we shall see...

Danno 04-25-2010 11:20 AM

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Based on needs - C
Based on value - A
Based on each player's potential - A plus

Overall - B

Robinson - picked about where he was projected
Brown - 5th best OT, projected late 1st, picked end of 2nd,
Graham - 3rd best TE in the draft, projected 2nd rounder, picked end of 3rd
Woods - 3rd round projection, picked at the end of 4th
Tennant - 2nd rated Center, projected 3rd rounder, picked at the end of the 5th

We had an excellent draft.

strato 04-25-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221879)
Based on needs - C
Based on value - A
Based on each player's potential - A plus

Overall - B

Robinson - picked about where he was projected
Brown - 5th best OT, projected late 1st, picked end of 2nd,
Graham - 3rd best TE in the draft, projected 2nd rounder, picked end of 3rd
Woods - 3rd round projection, picked at the end of 4th
Tennant - 2nd rated Center, projected 3rd rounder, picked at the end of the 5th

We had an excellent draft.

Only because we didnt draft a punter..huh.. Danno..lol..J/K....but you have to admit..Moorestead was a good pick as well..

foreverfan 04-25-2010 11:28 AM

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Whoever gave us a "F" or a "D" must have really wanted a LB bad.

strato 04-25-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 221883)
Whoever gave us a "F" or a "D" must have really wanted a LB bad.

That was a Falcoon fan ..im sure...lol

Danno 04-25-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 221880)
....but you have to admit..Moorestead was a good pick as well..

Uhh no I don't.

I was still dumb to give up two picks for a freaking punter in a 4 pick draft.

No other team has done that ever. In fact, no team has drafted a punter that early this decade that didn't have 7 or more picks. Most had over 7 picks and only gave up one pick.

We still win the Superbowl with an average punter.

Good punter, but we gave up way way too much for him.

Euphoria 04-25-2010 11:40 AM

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Well I disagree with Kiper on that there wasn't a lot of options. There were plenty of options. We could have gone and done anything. I was actually surprised at our choices at 32. Saints couldn't go wrong and yet they could have gone so right.

I have a hard time grading the draft until these guys get out there develop and get some playing time. Even grading these guys now is a gamble to say the least I can't how anyone can really justify any grade really. But for entertainment sake I think they unraveled at the end of the draft A QB??? C- high D.

What we should do is go back and grade the draft from 3 and 4 years ago. LEts see SB... A.

strato 04-25-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221885)
Uhh no I don't.

I was still dumb to give up two picks for a freaking punter in a 4 pick draft.

No other team has done that ever. In fact, no team has drafted a punter that early this decade that didn't have 7 or more picks. Most had over 7 picks and only gave up one pick.

We still win the Superbowl with an average punter.

Good punter, but we gave up way way too much for him.

Ok Danno..i beg to differ..but it doesnt matter now ..as you say we won the superbowl and Moorstead..was big part of how we got there..if you cant see that then well...thats your blindness...Peace:doh:

foreverfan 04-25-2010 11:48 AM

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Strato, do be b-slappin Danno...

Danno 04-25-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 221887)
Ok Danno..i beg to differ..but it doesnt matter now ..as you say we won the superbowl and Moorstead..was big part of how we got there..if you cant see that then well...thats your blindness...Peace:doh:

Blindness? OK whatever.

Morstead was a part, but certainly not a big part of how we got there. He plays the least important position on the field.

How many punters were drafted this year? A whopping THREE!!! LMAO!!!

And 2 of those teams had extra picks (Pats had 12 and Bucs had 9) and the other was picked in the 7th by the Giants (who had 7 picks).

Take off the B&G Glasses Strat, they may be blinding you.

foreverfan 04-25-2010 12:04 PM

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Uh o... I feel a b-slappin coming...

Danno 04-25-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 221895)
Uh o... I feel a b-slappin coming...

I can dish it out all day long on this topic. Done it before, can and will do it again.

We over-paid for a Punter, plain and simple. Could be worse I guess.

Saint_LB 04-25-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221896)
I can dish it out all day long on this topic. Done it before, can and will do it again.

We over-paid for a Punter, plain and simple. Could be worse I guess.

Yes...because if we would've waited and signed him for less as an UDFA, assuming someone else didn't snatch him before that, and we used that draft pick that we wasted on a punter to get a real stud defensive player, we might have made it to the Super-Duper Bowl! :)

strato 04-25-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221890)
Blindness? OK whatever.

Morstead was a part, but certainly not a big part of how we got there. He plays the least important position on the field.

How many punters were drafted this year? A whopping THREE!!! LMAO!!!

And 2 of those teams had extra picks (Pats had 12 and Bucs had 9) and the other was picked in the 7th by the Giants (who had 7 picks).

Take off the B&G Glasses Strat, they may be blinding you.

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221896)
I can dish it out all day long on this topic. Done it before, can and will do it again.

We over-paid for a Punter, plain and simple. Could be worse I guess.

Your point is MOOT my friend ..barking up the wrong tree.....I KNOW the score on our punter and what we gave up and got in return...I think anybody who watched the games last year and saw what Moorestead did would agree also...Shall I make a ghey poll...im sure we could settle it that way..Peace:doh:

Danno 04-25-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 221901)
Your point is MOOT my friend ..barking up the wrong tree.....I KNOW the score on our punter and what we gave up and got in return...I think anybody who watched the games last year and saw what Moorestead did would agree also...Shall I make a ghey poll...im sure we could settle it that way..Peace:doh:

Punters are Ghey, and DEFINITELY NOT worth 2 picks in a 4 pick draft.

Good punter, but we overpaid.

strato 04-25-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221903)
Punters are Ghey, and DEFINITELY NOT worth 2 picks in a 4 pick draft.

Good punter, but we overpaid.

LOL...thats all you got ..all punters are ghey?...nevermind Danno..i see your just being anti punter here...lol

CheramieIII 04-25-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221903)
Punters are Ghey, and DEFINITELY NOT worth 2 picks in a 4 pick draft.

Good punter, but we overpaid.

thats some funny ****e right there!

CheramieIII 04-25-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 221889)
Strato, do be b-slappin Danno...

That's a nice girly in the pic strato. Damn just damn!

strato 04-25-2010 12:44 PM

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She can do wonders for the soul...

CheramieIII 04-25-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 221909)
She can do wonders for the soul...

She wasn't anywhere near my soul but I know what ya mean. roflmao

Danno 04-25-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 221905)
LOL...thats all you got ..all punters are ghey?...nevermind Danno..i see your just being anti punter here...lol

No, but thats what you focused on.

I'm anti-spending 2 picks in a 4 pick draft on the least important position on any sports team on Earth.

lynwood 04-25-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221913)
No, but thats what you focused on.

I'm anti-spending 2 picks in a 4 pick draft on the least important position on any sports team on Earth.


So you saying field position is not important?

strato 04-25-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lynwood (Post 221915)
So you saying field position is not important?

Exactly...thank u..

Danno 04-25-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lynwood (Post 221915)
So you saying field position is not important?

No I'm saying burning 2 picks in a 4 pick draft for the least important position on the field is not a good idea.

Two can play that game... So are you saying our Punter is more important than Jonathan Vilma?

strato 04-25-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 221918)
No I'm saying burning 2 picks in a 4 pick draft for the least important position on the field is not a good idea.

Two can play that game... So are you saying our Punter is more important than Jonathan Vilma?

Danno..Moorestead was a great pick..lets prove it..

Danno 04-25-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 221920)
Danno..Moorestead was a great pick..lets prove it..

Strat, we overpaid.. for a Punter.

QBREES9 04-25-2010 01:54 PM

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Good question but you never know ... ask me in three years.


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