Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots

WhoDatQB · 04-27-2010, 11:37 AM

I am all for giving anyone a try, look at Sharper more than one GM thought he was washed up, which is why they let him walk. Look how well he played last year.

Worst case scenario if he is horrible, GW will show this is how you DO NOT PLAY LB FOR THE SAINTS!

Papa Voodoo · 04-27-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

adalius thomas wasnt as good without a big body in front of him playin in the 3-4

same thing vilma was complaining about

if there isnt a big body, then the LBs in the 3-4 are asked to take on blockers

thomas could be a SLB on a 4-3 team although he lacks ideal speed to play the position

hes old too but age is just a number if you can continue to produce

NE is where old LBs and WRs go to die

Ray Lewis didn't do so well in the 3-4 either. Vilma, Lewis, and Thomas are very good LB's. Sign the guy Mickey!

CantonLegend · 04-27-2010, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Ray Lewis didn't do so well in the 3-4 either. Vilma, Lewis, and Thomas are very good LB's. Sign the guy Mickey!

ray lewis has played his entire career in a 3-4

Papa Voodoo · 04-27-2010, 02:47 PM

Ravens' 4-3 Superbowl front 7:

LDE: Rob Burnett
RDE: Micheal McCray
DT: Siragusa and Adams
OLB: Boulware, Sharper
MLB: Ray Lewis

BRSaintsFan · 04-27-2010, 03:41 PM

i thought the ravens played in a 46 d?

CantonLegend · 04-27-2010, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Ravens' 4-3 Superbowl front 7:

LDE: Rob Burnett
RDE: Micheal McCray
DT: Siragusa and Adams
OLB: Boulware, Sharper
MLB: Ray Lewis

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

i thought the ravens played in a 46 d?

the ravens have ran multiple schemes....some consider them to not have a base defense since they switch up so much

however, the base defense has been a 3-4

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2010, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

i thought the ravens played in a 46 d?

It is still a four man front with three backers, just like a 4-3.

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2010, 04:00 PM

In 2000 and 2006 the Ravens ran a 4-3 ...

Baltimore Ravens: Should They Run a 3-4 or 4-3 Defense?

No blitzing doesn't mean this D won't dominate. Surprisingly enough, the sack leader of the Ravens 2000 unit, Rob Burnett, barely surpassed ten sacks. Really, the Ravens only had three all out pass rushers on that team, in Burnett, Michael McCrary, and Peter Boulware.

It was the duo of Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa at defensive tackle and the group of talented linebackers that made the defense so great. It didn't hurt that they had two good corners in Chris McAlister and Duane Starks, and a Hall of Famer in Rod Woodson at free safety. With the two defensive tackles, Burnett and McCrary at defensive end, and Jamie Sharper, Ray Lewis, and Boulware at linebacker, the team ran a 4-3 defensive scheme, using four defensive lineman and three linebackers in their front seven.

The question this year is, what scheme will Mattison run?

In 2006, under Ryan, the Ravens ran a 4-3, and the defense was actually comparable to the 2000 squad. The defensive tackles this time were Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata, both physical beasts of nature. On the edge, they used Trevor Pryce and Terrell Suggs as the defensive ends, and had Adalius Thomas, Ray Lewis, and Bart Scott play linebacker. Of that front seven, the Ravens return five players, as Scott (Jets) and Thomas (Patriots) signed free agent deals. Let's just imagine the scenarios.

CantonLegend · 04-27-2010, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In 2000 and 2006 the Ravens ran a 4-3 ...

Baltimore Ravens: Should They Run a 3-4 or 4-3 Defense?

No blitzing doesn't mean this D won't dominate. Surprisingly enough, the sack leader of the Ravens 2000 unit, Rob Burnett, barely surpassed ten sacks. Really, the Ravens only had three all out pass rushers on that team, in Burnett, Michael McCrary, and Peter Boulware.

It was the duo of Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa at defensive tackle and the group of talented linebackers that made the defense so great. It didn't hurt that they had two good corners in Chris McAlister and Duane Starks, and a Hall of Famer in Rod Woodson at free safety. With the two defensive tackles, Burnett and McCrary at defensive end, and Jamie Sharper, Ray Lewis, and Boulware at linebacker, the team ran a 4-3 defensive scheme, using four defensive lineman and three linebackers in their front seven.

The question this year is, what scheme will Mattison run?

In 2006, under Ryan, the Ravens ran a 4-3, and the defense was actually comparable to the 2000 squad. The defensive tackles this time were Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata, both physical beasts of nature. On the edge, they used Trevor Pryce and Terrell Suggs as the defensive ends, and had Adalius Thomas, Ray Lewis, and Bart Scott play linebacker. Of that front seven, the Ravens return five players, as Scott (Jets) and Thomas (Patriots) signed free agent deals. Let's just imagine the scenarios.

Defensive coordinator Rex Ryan likes to switch between the 3-4, 4-3, 4-4-3 and 46 fronts. He will use defenders in various positions, because a number of starters can line up in multiple positions. While the 2000 Ravens led by coordinator Marvin Lewis was quite vanilla, the 2006 Ravens are Ben & Jerry's Rocky Road.

Baltimore Ravens News - 2000 v. 2006: A COMPARISON OF DEFENSIVE GREATNESS

now the defense is in a 3-4 pretty much exclusively
http://espn.go.com/nfl/teams/depth?team=bal&formationId=15

BRSaintsFan · 04-27-2010, 04:05 PM

Yeah, the set up is there but my understanding is the weakside DE who lines up way outside the tackle is sometimes subbed for a LB who can rush the passer and only has "stay home" responsibilities in the run. The SLB is actually like a Jack in a 3-4 and becomes primarily a run stopper, up the middle blitzer and the WLB is responsible for the TE. I always figured it a hybrid of the two and what Rex Ryan ran since Buddy Ryan was an advocate. I thought the Ravens that year would pull in Cornell Brown to play the Jack LB. Phew--that was 10 years ago.

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WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots I am all for giving anyone a try, look at Sharper more than one GM thought he was washed up, which is why they let him walk. Look how well he played last year. Worst case scenario if he is horrible, GW will show this is how you DO NOT PLAY LB FOR THE SAINTS!

04-27-2010, 11:52 AM	#22
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by CantonLegend adalius thomas wasnt as good without a big body in front of him playin in the 3-4 same thing vilma was complaining about if there isnt a big body, then the LBs in the 3-4 are asked to take on blockers thomas could be a SLB on a 4-3 team although he lacks ideal speed to play the position hes old too but age is just a number if you can continue to produce NE is where old LBs and WRs go to die Ray Lewis didn't do so well in the 3-4 either. Vilma, Lewis, and Thomas are very good LB's. Sign the guy Mickey!

04-27-2010, 12:28 PM	#23
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Ray Lewis didn't do so well in the 3-4 either. Vilma, Lewis, and Thomas are very good LB's. Sign the guy Mickey! ray lewis has played his entire career in a 3-4

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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Ravens' 4-3 Superbowl front 7: LDE: Rob Burnett RDE: Micheal McCray DT: Siragusa and Adams OLB: Boulware, Sharper MLB: Ray Lewis Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan i thought the ravens played in a 46 d? the ravens have ran multiple schemes....some consider them to not have a base defense since they switch up so much however, the base defense has been a 3-4

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan i thought the ravens played in a 46 d? It is still a four man front with three backers, just like a 4-3.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots In 2000 and 2006 the Ravens ran a 4-3 ... Baltimore Ravens: Should They Run a 3-4 or 4-3 Defense? No blitzing doesn't mean this D won't dominate. Surprisingly enough, the sack leader of the Ravens 2000 unit, Rob Burnett, barely surpassed ten sacks. Really, the Ravens only had three all out pass rushers on that team, in Burnett, Michael McCrary, and Peter Boulware. It was the duo of Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa at defensive tackle and the group of talented linebackers that made the defense so great. It didn't hurt that they had two good corners in Chris McAlister and Duane Starks, and a Hall of Famer in Rod Woodson at free safety. With the two defensive tackles, Burnett and McCrary at defensive end, and Jamie Sharper, Ray Lewis, and Boulware at linebacker, the team ran a 4-3 defensive scheme, using four defensive lineman and three linebackers in their front seven. The question this year is, what scheme will Mattison run? In 2006, under Ryan, the Ravens ran a 4-3, and the defense was actually comparable to the 2000 squad. The defensive tackles this time were Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata, both physical beasts of nature. On the edge, they used Trevor Pryce and Terrell Suggs as the defensive ends, and had Adalius Thomas, Ray Lewis, and Bart Scott play linebacker. Of that front seven, the Ravens return five players, as Scott (Jets) and Thomas (Patriots) signed free agent deals. Let's just imagine the scenarios.

04-27-2010, 04:05 PM	#29
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In 2000 and 2006 the Ravens ran a 4-3 ... Baltimore Ravens: Should They Run a 3-4 or 4-3 Defense? No blitzing doesn't mean this D won't dominate. Surprisingly enough, the sack leader of the Ravens 2000 unit, Rob Burnett, barely surpassed ten sacks. Really, the Ravens only had three all out pass rushers on that team, in Burnett, Michael McCrary, and Peter Boulware. It was the duo of Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa at defensive tackle and the group of talented linebackers that made the defense so great. It didn't hurt that they had two good corners in Chris McAlister and Duane Starks, and a Hall of Famer in Rod Woodson at free safety. With the two defensive tackles, Burnett and McCrary at defensive end, and Jamie Sharper, Ray Lewis, and Boulware at linebacker, the team ran a 4-3 defensive scheme, using four defensive lineman and three linebackers in their front seven. The question this year is, what scheme will Mattison run? In 2006, under Ryan, the Ravens ran a 4-3, and the defense was actually comparable to the 2000 squad. The defensive tackles this time were Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata, both physical beasts of nature. On the edge, they used Trevor Pryce and Terrell Suggs as the defensive ends, and had Adalius Thomas, Ray Lewis, and Bart Scott play linebacker. Of that front seven, the Ravens return five players, as Scott (Jets) and Thomas (Patriots) signed free agent deals. Let's just imagine the scenarios. Defensive coordinator Rex Ryan likes to switch between the 3-4, 4-3, 4-4-3 and 46 fronts. He will use defenders in various positions, because a number of starters can line up in multiple positions. While the 2000 Ravens led by coordinator Marvin Lewis was quite vanilla, the 2006 Ravens are Ben & Jerry's Rocky Road. Baltimore Ravens News - 2000 v. 2006: A COMPARISON OF DEFENSIVE GREATNESS now the defense is in a 3-4 pretty much exclusively http://espn.go.com/nfl/teams/depth?team=bal&formationId=15