Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots

CantonLegend · 04-27-2010, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In 2000 and 2006 the Ravens ran a 4-3 ...

Baltimore Ravens: Should They Run a 3-4 or 4-3 Defense?

No blitzing doesn't mean this D won't dominate. Surprisingly enough, the sack leader of the Ravens 2000 unit, Rob Burnett, barely surpassed ten sacks. Really, the Ravens only had three all out pass rushers on that team, in Burnett, Michael McCrary, and Peter Boulware.

It was the duo of Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa at defensive tackle and the group of talented linebackers that made the defense so great. It didn't hurt that they had two good corners in Chris McAlister and Duane Starks, and a Hall of Famer in Rod Woodson at free safety. With the two defensive tackles, Burnett and McCrary at defensive end, and Jamie Sharper, Ray Lewis, and Boulware at linebacker, the team ran a 4-3 defensive scheme, using four defensive lineman and three linebackers in their front seven.

The question this year is, what scheme will Mattison run?

In 2006, under Ryan, the Ravens ran a 4-3, and the defense was actually comparable to the 2000 squad. The defensive tackles this time were Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata, both physical beasts of nature. On the edge, they used Trevor Pryce and Terrell Suggs as the defensive ends, and had Adalius Thomas, Ray Lewis, and Bart Scott play linebacker. Of that front seven, the Ravens return five players, as Scott (Jets) and Thomas (Patriots) signed free agent deals. Let's just imagine the scenarios.

Defensive coordinator Rex Ryan likes to switch between the 3-4, 4-3, 4-4-3 and 46 fronts. He will use defenders in various positions, because a number of starters can line up in multiple positions. While the 2000 Ravens led by coordinator Marvin Lewis was quite vanilla, the 2006 Ravens are Ben & Jerry's Rocky Road.

Baltimore Ravens News - 2000 v. 2006: A COMPARISON OF DEFENSIVE GREATNESS

now the defense is in a 3-4 pretty much exclusively
http://espn.go.com/nfl/teams/depth?team=bal&formationId=15

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2010, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

Defensive coordinator Rex Ryan likes to switch between the 3-4, 4-3, 4-4-3 and 46 fronts. He will use defenders in various positions, because a number of starters can line up in multiple positions. While the 2000 Ravens led by coordinator Marvin Lewis was quite vanilla, the 2006 Ravens are Ben & Jerry's Rocky Road.

Baltimore Ravens News - 2000 v. 2006: A COMPARISON OF DEFENSIVE GREATNESS

now the defense is in a 3-4 pretty much exclusively
Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart - NFL Football - ESPN

True, but the point is that Thomas' production dropped in the Pats' 3-4. He was very productive with the Ravens and their four man fronts in whichever formation.

CantonLegend · 04-27-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

True, but the point is that Thomas' production dropped in the Pats' 3-4. He was very productive with the Ravens and their four man fronts in whichever formation.

hes managing over 120 tackles per season....im not sure thats a decrease in production......its a drop in production from his defensive MVP years when he was in his prime tho

im sure age has something to do with it

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2010, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

hes managing over 120 tackles per season....im not sure thats a decrease in production......its a drop in production from his defensive MVP years when he was in his prime tho

im sure age has something to do with it

Where are you getting 120 tackles? He has totaled under 35 each of the past two seasons.

CantonLegend · 04-27-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Where are you getting 120 tackles? He has totaled under 35 each of the past two seasons.

cuz i was talking about ray ray.....you were talking about adalius thomas i guess

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2010, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

cuz i was talking about ray ray.....you were talking about adalius thomas i guess

Yes. We were talking about Thomas and his possible value to the Saints. The was much more productive behind a four man front in Baltimore than he was in the much more conservative 3-4 of the Patriots.

04-27-2010, 03:05 PM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In 2000 and 2006 the Ravens ran a 4-3 ... Baltimore Ravens: Should They Run a 3-4 or 4-3 Defense? No blitzing doesn't mean this D won't dominate. Surprisingly enough, the sack leader of the Ravens 2000 unit, Rob Burnett, barely surpassed ten sacks. Really, the Ravens only had three all out pass rushers on that team, in Burnett, Michael McCrary, and Peter Boulware. It was the duo of Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa at defensive tackle and the group of talented linebackers that made the defense so great. It didn't hurt that they had two good corners in Chris McAlister and Duane Starks, and a Hall of Famer in Rod Woodson at free safety. With the two defensive tackles, Burnett and McCrary at defensive end, and Jamie Sharper, Ray Lewis, and Boulware at linebacker, the team ran a 4-3 defensive scheme, using four defensive lineman and three linebackers in their front seven. The question this year is, what scheme will Mattison run? In 2006, under Ryan, the Ravens ran a 4-3, and the defense was actually comparable to the 2000 squad. The defensive tackles this time were Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata, both physical beasts of nature. On the edge, they used Trevor Pryce and Terrell Suggs as the defensive ends, and had Adalius Thomas, Ray Lewis, and Bart Scott play linebacker. Of that front seven, the Ravens return five players, as Scott (Jets) and Thomas (Patriots) signed free agent deals. Let's just imagine the scenarios. Defensive coordinator Rex Ryan likes to switch between the 3-4, 4-3, 4-4-3 and 46 fronts. He will use defenders in various positions, because a number of starters can line up in multiple positions. While the 2000 Ravens led by coordinator Marvin Lewis was quite vanilla, the 2006 Ravens are Ben & Jerry's Rocky Road. Baltimore Ravens News - 2000 v. 2006: A COMPARISON OF DEFENSIVE GREATNESS now the defense is in a 3-4 pretty much exclusively http://espn.go.com/nfl/teams/depth?team=bal&formationId=15

04-27-2010, 03:11 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,759	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by CantonLegend Defensive coordinator Rex Ryan likes to switch between the 3-4, 4-3, 4-4-3 and 46 fronts. He will use defenders in various positions, because a number of starters can line up in multiple positions. While the 2000 Ravens led by coordinator Marvin Lewis was quite vanilla, the 2006 Ravens are Ben & Jerry's Rocky Road. Baltimore Ravens News - 2000 v. 2006: A COMPARISON OF DEFENSIVE GREATNESS now the defense is in a 3-4 pretty much exclusively Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart - NFL Football - ESPN True, but the point is that Thomas' production dropped in the Pats' 3-4. He was very productive with the Ravens and their four man fronts in whichever formation.

04-27-2010, 03:19 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido True, but the point is that Thomas' production dropped in the Pats' 3-4. He was very productive with the Ravens and their four man fronts in whichever formation. hes managing over 120 tackles per season....im not sure thats a decrease in production......its a drop in production from his defensive MVP years when he was in his prime tho im sure age has something to do with it

04-27-2010, 03:28 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,759	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by CantonLegend hes managing over 120 tackles per season....im not sure thats a decrease in production......its a drop in production from his defensive MVP years when he was in his prime tho im sure age has something to do with it Where are you getting 120 tackles? He has totaled under 35 each of the past two seasons.

04-27-2010, 03:37 PM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Where are you getting 120 tackles? He has totaled under 35 each of the past two seasons. cuz i was talking about ray ray.....you were talking about adalius thomas i guess

04-27-2010, 03:43 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,759	Re: Adalius Thomas released by the Patriots Originally Posted by CantonLegend cuz i was talking about ray ray.....you were talking about adalius thomas i guess Yes. We were talking about Thomas and his possible value to the Saints. The was much more productive behind a four man front in Baltimore than he was in the much more conservative 3-4 of the Patriots.