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stockman311 04-28-2010 10:28 AM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
I respectfully disagree. I don't think he visits and I think Hargrove is more of a playmaker for us than Henderson would be. He's not the same player he used to be. I actually think Ayodele is a very solid NT for us and that Ellis is going to make the jump from good to great this year.

Hargroves stats from 2009

SPLIT TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFY FF BK INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD
2009 42 32 10 5.0 3 9 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 3


Hendersons stats from 2009

G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2009 15 15 36 26 10 3.0 3 0.0 2


These stats look eerily similar don't they?

strato 04-28-2010 10:30 AM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 222922)
I respectfully disagree. I don't think he visits and I think Hargrove is more of a playmaker for us than Henderson would be. He's not the same player he used to be. I actually think Ayodele is a very solid NT for us and that Ellis is going to make the jump from good to great this year.

Hargroves stats from 2009

SPLIT TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFY FF BK INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD
2009 42 32 10 5.0 3 9 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 3


Hendersons stats from 2009

G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2009 15 15 36 26 10 3.0 3 0.0 2


These stats look eerily similar don't they?

Exacty...thats why he should start next to Ellis and Hargrove can slide over to RDE..

falconhater 04-28-2010 10:43 AM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
Excuse my ignorance but is ingram a SLB or WLB

AsylumGuido 04-28-2010 11:22 AM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falconhater (Post 222930)
Excuse my ignorance but is ingram a SLB or WLB

Both. The Jags play LOLB and ROLB. The LB's don't switch between strong and weak sides. So, depending upon the offensive alignment Ingram was required to play either/both.

falconhater 04-28-2010 12:21 PM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 222958)
Both. The Jags play LOLB and ROLB. The LB's don't switch between strong and weak sides. So, depending upon the offensive alignment Ingram was required to play either/both.

Thanks I dont follow the Jags and kinda lost the scheme they run.

stockman311 04-28-2010 03:14 PM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 222923)
Exacty...thats why he should start next to Ellis and Hargrove can slide over to RDE..

Who are you wanting to cut on the DL? I'm assuming Pressley?

strato 04-28-2010 03:19 PM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 223028)
Who are you wanting to cut on the DL? I'm assuming Pressley?

For henderson..hell yeah...lol

Cruize 04-28-2010 03:43 PM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
The Saints won the Super Bowl but there are two positions than can use an upgrade. Defensive tackle and Linebacker. Ellis is the best DT and he's not shown anything special so far. And since Brees is on the cover of Madden, a backup QB that's actually taken a snap in an NFL game would be nice.

biloxi-indian 04-28-2010 03:55 PM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 222923)
Exacty...thats why he should start next to Ellis and Hargrove can slide over to RDE..

strato,

Notwithstanding the DT stats provided;

According to legend; "DTs stats dont matter as much as the LBs behind them......henderson clogs holes and eats double teams....he doesnt make a lot of plays but he creates a lot of plays for everybody else"

So here are some LB stats to consider;

Player Tackles, Sacks, Forced Fumbles, Int
D. Smith 107, 1.5, 3, 1
J. Durant 98, 1, 1, 1
C. Ingram52, 1, 1, 0
257, 3.5, 5, 2

S. Shanle 69 0 0 2
J. Vilma 110 2 0 3
S. Fujita 58 1 2 0
237 3 2 5

You can draw your own conclusion, but to me, not much difference.

strato 04-28-2010 04:04 PM

Re: LB Clint Ingram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 223033)
strato,

Notwithstanding the DT stats provided;

According to legend; "DTs stats dont matter as much as the LBs behind them......henderson clogs holes and eats double teams....he doesnt make a lot of plays but he creates a lot of plays for everybody else"

So here are some LB stats to consider;

Player Tackles, Sacks, Forced Fumbles, Int
D. Smith 107, 1.5, 3, 1
J. Durant 98, 1, 1, 1
C. Ingram52, 1, 1, 0
257, 3.5, 5, 2

S. Shanle 69 0 0 2
J. Vilma 110 2 0 3
S. Fujita 58 1 2 0
237 3 2 5

You can draw your own conclusion, but to me, not much difference.

I see your point..i think Henderson would clog the middle thats what we need so the LBs can make plays..Ingram isnt the answer..we have 3 ingrams on the roster already...we need DT..thats what would stop the bleeding ..JMTC


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