Jenkins, Vaughn or Young

D_it_up · 05-14-2010, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

but vaughn did play safety in college....jenkins is a corner switching to safety

vaughn is a natural safety

im not trying to get into a debate because thats my only point

nobody has anymore of a point to debate that jenkins is more qualified either

its JMO that i think vaughn would be a better safety

But, Jenkins also played some safety in college. Sure it wasn't his natural position, but he did play the position. Vaughn has just played the position more.

P.S. I'm not leaning either way for either guy. I just like bantering with you. lol

saintsfan1976 · 05-14-2010, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

what has jenkins proven over vaughn?

That he can make plays in the NFL. Besides Vaughn was a SS that the Saints planned to groom into a FS. The same could be said for Jenkins.

I don't think there's any wrong opinion in the debate bc Williams likes players who can play multiple positions anyway.

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Exactly. I dont' know why everyone is going bonkers over Jenkins. He hasn't done anything yet, and to say he is going to be a great player, is purely speculation.

I don't hear anyone going crazy over Jenkins. We've just seen more of him both on Defense and Special Teams. He's made some solid plays and he's looked like a rookie at times.

What's wrong with speculating that he'll be a great player anyway? Don't we say that about other players here all the time??

st thomas · 05-14-2010, 12:51 PM

all i can say is were building the best defensive back core that the saints has ever had in the history of the franchise barr none. want to argue that boys?

Danno · 05-14-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I don't hear anyone going crazy over Jenkins. We've just seen more of him both on Defense and Special Teams. He's made some solid plays and he's looked like a rookie at times.

What's wrong with speculating that he'll be a great player anyway? Don't we say that about other players here all the time??

True,

In Jenkins we have a promising rookie CB who played a lot of NB/DB last season. He is likely capable of playing the FS spot very well. Best upside of all 3.

In Vaughn we have a promising rookie who was looking good in TC (according to the coaches) before a minor injury. He also appears to be a capable replacement. A little young and probably needs some further development, but he is loaded with potential.

In Young we have a converted CB who played his 1st season as a FS last year. He has all the tools and looks like we can get by with him if necessary

All 3 players have huge upside as FS's, and I'm 99% positive at least one would step up and shine in Gregg Williams' system.

NEXTPROBOWLER · 05-14-2010, 01:21 PM

i kinda want to see the size of chip, but jenkins made some good plays last year, and young is basically the new fred mcafee.. a special teamer for life, no offense he can come in for a few plays, but do you really want him starting more then 1-2 games? as for jenkins and vaughn... thats a toss up, whoever is faster, and more solid tackler gets my vote... if it helps i started chip on my madden and he did pretty good hahaha

chasercg · 05-14-2010, 01:44 PM

Who stepped in for him last year? It was Young, and that's who it would be if he was to go down again. Jenkins is a CB.

Sir Psycho Sexy · 05-14-2010, 01:55 PM

LOL @ Jenkins hasn't done anything. Granted it's been at corner but in our system the line between free safety and corner gets rather blurry. Go watch the 3rd and 4th quarter of the SB for a good example. Guy made some great deflections in the play offs as well.

A few more inches on a play right before the pick 6 and it would have been Jenkins with the winning TD.

Rugby Saint II · 05-14-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by chasercg

Who stepped in for him last year? It was Young, and that's who it would be if he was to go down again. Jenkins is a CB.

However, when he did step in last time I think he got burned for a TD. I was a big fan of his in the beginning but less so each passing year. I hope he has it together this year. I was pulling for him to make the switch to safety.

saintsfan1976 · 05-14-2010, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

However, when he did step in last time I think he got burned for a TD. I was a big fan of his in the beginning but less so each passing year. I hope he has it together this year. I was pulling for him to make the switch to safety.

Young won't be a starter for New Orleans. Ever. He's a ST player with backup potential. That's it.

woody · 05-14-2010, 02:24 PM

I voted for Jenkins, but the more I think about it, I'm going with Vaughn. Jenkins and Robinson can play nickel and dime.

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05-14-2010, 12:00 AM	#21
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young Originally Posted by CantonLegend but vaughn did play safety in college....jenkins is a corner switching to safety vaughn is a natural safety im not trying to get into a debate because thats my only point nobody has anymore of a point to debate that jenkins is more qualified either its JMO that i think vaughn would be a better safety But, Jenkins also played some safety in college. Sure it wasn't his natural position, but he did play the position. Vaughn has just played the position more. P.S. I'm not leaning either way for either guy. I just like bantering with you. lol

05-14-2010, 09:50 AM	#22
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young Originally Posted by CantonLegend what has jenkins proven over vaughn? That he can make plays in the NFL. Besides Vaughn was a SS that the Saints planned to groom into a FS. The same could be said for Jenkins. I don't think there's any wrong opinion in the debate bc Williams likes players who can play multiple positions anyway. Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Exactly. I dont' know why everyone is going bonkers over Jenkins. He hasn't done anything yet, and to say he is going to be a great player, is purely speculation. I don't hear anyone going crazy over Jenkins. We've just seen more of him both on Defense and Special Teams. He's made some solid plays and he's looked like a rookie at times. What's wrong with speculating that he'll be a great player anyway? Don't we say that about other players here all the time??

05-14-2010, 12:51 PM	#23
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young all i can say is were building the best defensive back core that the saints has ever had in the history of the franchise barr none. want to argue that boys?

05-14-2010, 12:53 PM	#24
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I don't hear anyone going crazy over Jenkins. We've just seen more of him both on Defense and Special Teams. He's made some solid plays and he's looked like a rookie at times. What's wrong with speculating that he'll be a great player anyway? Don't we say that about other players here all the time?? True, In Jenkins we have a promising rookie CB who played a lot of NB/DB last season. He is likely capable of playing the FS spot very well. Best upside of all 3. In Vaughn we have a promising rookie who was looking good in TC (according to the coaches) before a minor injury. He also appears to be a capable replacement. A little young and probably needs some further development, but he is loaded with potential. In Young we have a converted CB who played his 1st season as a FS last year. He has all the tools and looks like we can get by with him if necessary All 3 players have huge upside as FS's, and I'm 99% positive at least one would step up and shine in Gregg Williams' system.

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05-14-2010, 01:21 PM	#25
NEXTPROBOWLER 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 269	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young i kinda want to see the size of chip, but jenkins made some good plays last year, and young is basically the new fred mcafee.. a special teamer for life, no offense he can come in for a few plays, but do you really want him starting more then 1-2 games? as for jenkins and vaughn... thats a toss up, whoever is faster, and more solid tackler gets my vote... if it helps i started chip on my madden and he did pretty good hahaha

05-14-2010, 01:44 PM	#26
chasercg Rookie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 10	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young Who stepped in for him last year? It was Young, and that's who it would be if he was to go down again. Jenkins is a CB.

05-14-2010, 01:55 PM	#27
Sir Psycho Sexy Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA - Behind enemy lines. Someone throw me a grenade!! Posts: 941	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young LOL @ Jenkins hasn't done anything. Granted it's been at corner but in our system the line between free safety and corner gets rather blurry. Go watch the 3rd and 4th quarter of the SB for a good example. Guy made some great deflections in the play offs as well. A few more inches on a play right before the pick 6 and it would have been Jenkins with the winning TD.

05-14-2010, 01:59 PM	#28
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young Originally Posted by chasercg Who stepped in for him last year? It was Young, and that's who it would be if he was to go down again. Jenkins is a CB. However, when he did step in last time I think he got burned for a TD. I was a big fan of his in the beginning but less so each passing year. I hope he has it together this year. I was pulling for him to make the switch to safety.

05-14-2010, 02:18 PM	#29
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II However, when he did step in last time I think he got burned for a TD. I was a big fan of his in the beginning but less so each passing year. I hope he has it together this year. I was pulling for him to make the switch to safety. Young won't be a starter for New Orleans. Ever. He's a ST player with backup potential. That's it.

05-14-2010, 02:24 PM	#30
woody 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 181	Re: Jenkins, Vaughn or Young I voted for Jenkins, but the more I think about it, I'm going with Vaughn. Jenkins and Robinson can play nickel and dime.
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