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Heaven forbid, but if Sharper were to go down who do you think is most likely to step in for him?

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jenkins is one of those guys who seems to always make plays. he is just not that great in one on one coverage. he is sick on special teams and when not if he steps in at FS he will dominate.

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Jenkins can adequately step in i believe.

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hmm.......2 corners that got moved to safety.......or an actual safety?

i'll take vaughn

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a whole year advantage. jenkins is my vote

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What has Vaughn proven over Jenkins?

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what has jenkins proven over vaughn?

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Exactly. I dont' know why everyone is going bonkers over Jenkins. He hasn't done anything yet, and to say he is going to be a great player, is purely speculation.

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Jenkins has at least seen the field. I'm a fan of Chip Vaughn and think he will do very well in this defense, but I would like to see him on the field, too.

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but not at safety

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I like Jenkins more because he's seen the field and looked pretty good, but I have high hopes for Vaughn. With a year under his belt with GW and the conditioning coaches helping get him get ready it could be a really good season for Vaughn. Now that he's healthy let's see how he looks in pads. btw No votes for Young?:eek:

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I say the best way to do it, is let them battle it out in camp, and the best man for the job, gets the job. I have a question, who is Roman Harper's back up? Is it Young?

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chris reis

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Reis..... Wow..... He's adequate, but not exactly thrilling..

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hes been in the system for several seasons now and payton likes him.....plus theres this whole thing

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Reis came up with the onside kick. Keep that guy.

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Well, I agree with keeping him, but what I meant was, arent we kind of thin at the SS position?

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we have harper, reis, and vaughn at SS......im not sure we are thin

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But Vaughn hasn't played at safety in the NFL, either.

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but vaughn did play safety in college....jenkins is a corner switching to safety

vaughn is a natural safety

im not trying to get into a debate because thats my only point

nobody has anymore of a point to debate that jenkins is more qualified either

its JMO that i think vaughn would be a better safety

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But, Jenkins also played some safety in college. Sure it wasn't his natural position, but he did play the position. Vaughn has just played the position more.

P.S. I'm not leaning either way for either guy. I just like bantering with you. lol

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That he can make plays in the NFL. Besides Vaughn was a SS that the Saints planned to groom into a FS. The same could be said for Jenkins.

I don't think there's any wrong opinion in the debate bc Williams likes players who can play multiple positions anyway.

I don't hear anyone going crazy over Jenkins. We've just seen more of him both on Defense and Special Teams. He's made some solid plays and he's looked like a rookie at times.

What's wrong with speculating that he'll be a great player anyway? Don't we say that about other players here all the time??

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all i can say is were building the best defensive back core that the saints has ever had in the history of the franchise barr none. want to argue that boys?

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True,

In Jenkins we have a promising rookie CB who played a lot of NB/DB last season. He is likely capable of playing the FS spot very well. Best upside of all 3.

In Vaughn we have a promising rookie who was looking good in TC (according to the coaches) before a minor injury. He also appears to be a capable replacement. A little young and probably needs some further development, but he is loaded with potential.

In Young we have a converted CB who played his 1st season as a FS last year. He has all the tools and looks like we can get by with him if necessary

All 3 players have huge upside as FS's, and I'm 99% positive at least one would step up and shine in Gregg Williams' system.

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i kinda want to see the size of chip, but jenkins made some good plays last year, and young is basically the new fred mcafee.. a special teamer for life, no offense he can come in for a few plays, but do you really want him starting more then 1-2 games? as for jenkins and vaughn... thats a toss up, whoever is faster, and more solid tackler gets my vote... if it helps i started chip on my madden and he did pretty good hahaha

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Who stepped in for him last year? It was Young, and that's who it would be if he was to go down again. Jenkins is a CB.

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LOL @ Jenkins hasn't done anything. Granted it's been at corner but in our system the line between free safety and corner gets rather blurry. Go watch the 3rd and 4th quarter of the SB for a good example. Guy made some great deflections in the play offs as well.

A few more inches on a play right before the pick 6 and it would have been Jenkins with the winning TD.

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However, when he did step in last time I think he got burned for a TD. I was a big fan of his in the beginning but less so each passing year. I hope he has it together this year. I was pulling for him to make the switch to safety.

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Young won't be a starter for New Orleans. Ever. He's a ST player with backup potential. That's it.

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I voted for Jenkins, but the more I think about it, I'm going with Vaughn. Jenkins and Robinson can play nickel and dime.

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im sure jenkins can play both.....as im sure vaughn can be a decent safety

are you saying that since jenkins flashed a tiny bit at corner that means he can transition to safety?

anybody that gets drafted can play in the NFL, or they wouldnt get drafted

jenkins is a corner moving to safety.....no matter how you spin it

vaughn is a safety.....regardless of which safety position he plays, hes still a safety......and at the safety position, jenkins hasnt shown anything more than vaughn

there really isnt much of a debate because there isnt any reason to really believe either will be better unless you base it off college

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lets let vaughn hit the field before we give chip the mvp. if jenkins would have studied and played the safety position all last season and chip has played nothing but safety in his career then the compitition would be on. if jenkins is moving to safety like all the experts said after the draft, it looks like its going to be a fight. unless he goes to strong, heck i don't know. help?

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I voted for Vaughn just because he's a natural safety and I think he's got the size and speed to be a player in the NFL.

That being said, Malcolm Jenkins is going to be one heckuva player for years to come. He has great instincts. My only concern is that he hasn't played safety in the NFL, and in several years.

I know who it definitely would NOT be, and that's Usama Young. Dude is awful.

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Sharper had a once in a lifetime year last year. It won't be as good this year, but he still has soem playing left. I am glad he is resigned.

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except that hes had 9 INTs in a season 3 times in his career

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Vaughn

said it before we drafted him. he is better off at SS.

Jenkins belongs at FS.

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I'm saying that I've seen more on the field from Jenkins than Vaughn at this point. And the coaches discussed him playing Safety before he was even drafted.

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Wrong. Sharper was the active leader in interceptions even before last season. He's a HOF player.

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Dats right and he is our HOF player for one more yr and im damn happy...lol

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It's very possible Usama gets cut this year. He was burnt toast on many a passing route this past year.