Pierre Thomas holdout
 

Restricted free agent Pierre Thomas is reportedly seeking a contract in the neighborhood of Steven Jackson's six-year, $44.8 million deal.
That would explain the hold up on an extension. Thomas is one of our favorite players, but he hasn't proven able to shoulder a full load over 16 games -- much less serve as the offensive focal point. Per ESPN's Len Pasquarelli, negotiations between Thomas and the Saints have now broken down. If he doesn't want to play on a one-year deal, he'd better lower his expectations.


--come on man...

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Damn that Bush money...lol...never gonna get it

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I love me some PT....but thats a lot of money!!!!!!!:???:

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He better have a good agent...Loomis wont pony up that much..

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Loomis certainly won't make this easy for him.

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no wonder they have been talking about trading for forte or lynch.

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Lynch has all the talent in the world..but a brain the size of an acorn...shame

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he wants the same type of money that the best running back in the league is making?

something is wrong with that

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Don't forget the line in front of you pierre!we had the number one ranked line according to madden.

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You gotta start somewhere.

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What did Ditka say about why the Bears didn't win the SB in '86...something like, "The first year being a team is why we won. The second year, everyone thought they were the reason we won."

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I didn't hear that. I hope that doesn't happen to us!!

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why aim low? you just hit the ground.

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Ditka babbles a lot. He might have been farting and they misunderstood him.

My grandmother could have coached Walter Payton to a Super Bowl.
Hand Walter the ball. Nice coaching.

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I am surprised at PT. I personally think he's being mismanaged in a major way here...

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I'm with heavy

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Yeah i agree..bad advice...unless he gets it..lol

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He was UDFA he wants the BIG payday. Aim high but expect low.

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We're talking about trading for Forte??? I likey!!! Forte is a monster!!! On another note..... I love P.T., but that's too much money. His agent is crazy. When he puts up daily numbers like Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson, & Adrian Peterson..... he can ask for that kind of money. Until then, be realistic!!!

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do what it takes..i want him here

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he plays with real heart

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He's better than Reggie Bush, and he should be paid accordingly.

If they swapped contracts, all would be OK.

PT should be making Bush money and Bush should be making PT money.

I say make PT happy, and if it costs us Bush, that's fine with me.

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I dont' know.....I mean yeah thus far in his career bush hasn't lived up to his contract...but we all know he has it in him...he just has to find it and if he ever does then we could be saying Chris Johnson eat your heart out!! Question is will he ever find it?

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After 4 years I'm pretty sure Bush won't suddenly find it. He is what he is, a great scat back and should be paid accordingly, which is about 1/4th his current salary.

PT is much closer to a franchise RB than Bush is, and should be paid accordingly, which is approximately what Bush makes now.

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I don't blame Thomas for asking. He absolutely has the ability. He runs downhill and is great out of the backfield. My only question is his durability. First of all, the Saints are not a run first offense. He's only getting 12 to 18 touches a game, which isn't going to change with Bush on the roster, and he still hasn't been able to stay healthy. In my opinion, the offense wouldn't drop off that much if Hamilton was the back getting 12 to 18 touches and working Bush in. It's just the way the offense is set up. So, if he wants "bell cow" type money, I think he's going to have to get it elsewhere.

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hes not that 25 carry back, hes tough and i want pt here. but 44.8 mil. seems like agent looking for his big payday.

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Wow, what would you do if your the "General Manger". lol
Tough, i rather see Pt get bush's money.

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somewhere around 30 mil. with 10 up front.

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Real world: Bush got a second pick overall, superstar contract. Yes, it was a mistake. Accept it and move on. He is NOT the measuring stick for all future contracts.

PT, or 'FF', (or whatever we are calling him) needs to get with his agent and look at what RB's with similar production and touches are making

Give him a big one year deal, and then next year you are re-negotiating with Bush anyway, so now you decide who gets what.

More real world: PT had 793 yards last year, 625 the year before. That's not a 6 million dollar back

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Hopefully this is just a little posturing by his agent during a slow time of the year. I can't see any team giving him that kind of money.

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Good point. This is similar to Sharper's situation. No one was going to give him the franchise tag money he started out asking for. I don't see anyone giving PT this kind of money either.

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Look this salary crap is getting outrageous. Yeah they can get hurt but a million a year should make up for that right? I mean if I made a million dollars 4 years in a row I could retire comfortably and never smell bankruptcy court where some of these guys end up. Look I love Pierre but enough is enough. He's not the centerpiece of the offense so enough said. Let's pick someone up as insurance; Jamaal Lewis, Justin Fargas or Brian Westbrook and then draft someone in the first round next year. We don't need to break the bank on this guy and as I've said before he really hasn't proven he can do it long haul and he will never get 25 carries a game.

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While I can't blame him for wanting that kind of money, it is crazy and won't happen

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any player that wants to be part of a team but doesnt show up to work for that team doesnt deserve to play on that team

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Players want to get paid, can't blame them; but seriously if he honestly thinks hes gonna get that kind of salary from ANY team, he is crazy.

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In my heart I'm with you on this - that's what they told us in Little league. If you don't practice with the team you sit.

Well, once you make the NFL - especially as a RB - you have a small window inside which you have to make the best deal(s) you can - and they'll cut you in a heartbeat, so you might as well squeeze the orange for all the juice you can get while you have the chance. I hate to see PT sitting out, but I think he has a valid argument with the organization, which is not to say he needs to be paid like the highest paid RB in the league, but I bet he'd settle for less.

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Au contraire...

It is my opinion that when you are playing for a team that is part of a business, then people must let business play a part in their decisions.

In other words, if he was part of a weekly bowling league and decided to not show-up because he'd have to miss the new episode of "Family Guy"...then, yeah...he sits.

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ok.....as a business.....would a boss give you a bigger raise if you threatened not to come in.....or if you busted your butt everyday doing your job?

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Good point Canton...P.T needs to get his butt to camp...i dont think this Front Office plays around...he could get his walkin papers if he wants that kind of money...Loomis will not give him that deal...bank on it...5 yrs at say 25 mill sounds about right...

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AGREED! More than reasonable paycheck for PT.