Very interesting PT issue...

MatthewT · 06-08-2010, 08:14 PM

Saints RB Pierre Thomas - I'm worth Steven Jackson money

Now look, I love PT like no tomorrow, and he is a vital part of the Saints. But, Steven Jackson kind of money, lets get real. If this article is true, look for a very long hold out. JMO

saintfan · 06-08-2010, 08:53 PM

I like this:

But this is the business of the NFL. With Mike Bell now the touchdown vulture in Philadelphia, Thomas will see an increased workload. And he deserves a raise for his contributions, his reliability, and his unique running style compared to the other New Orleans backs. His agent, Lamont Smith, will certainly remind the brass in the Big Easy of the clutch playoff performances, the straight-ahead mentality. And the Saints will listen. But if New Orleans wants to pay “Steven Jackson money” to a running back, they’ll pay it to a Steven Jackson. Pierre may very well be on his way to dominant status, but for now he’ll get Pierre Thomas money. How much that becomes is up to him.

spkb25 · 06-08-2010, 10:22 PM

he isn't going to get that much, plain and simple

Danno · 06-08-2010, 10:27 PM

Process of negotiation. He knows he won't get that.

QBREES9 · 06-08-2010, 11:21 PM

Shoot for the moon, but don't expect it. Good Luck PT

st thomas · 06-09-2010, 12:34 AM

lamont stanford will dominate the big brass at the junkyard in new orleans and fred will slap lamont smith a nukkle samwitch for putting p.t. on the unemployed line. 44.8 million, elizabeth i'm coming to meet you honey.LOL

Sir Psycho Sexy · 06-09-2010, 12:40 AM

At some point, and I don't know when that will be this hold out will start working against him and the team. You always shoot higher than you know you will get but at some point you have to start moving to the middle.

strato · 06-09-2010, 12:41 AM

Im just hoping his new nickname isnt P.T

Paid Toomuch

strato · 06-09-2010, 01:11 AM

According to NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora, unsigned restricted free agent Pierre Thomas isn't close to getting a contract extension

"Nothing's really evolved or escalated to this point," says LaCanfora. The Saints threw out an offer a couple of months ago, and they've been reluctant to go higher. Though beat writer Jeff Duncan has stated that the deal will "get done," LaCanfora maintains that nothing is imminent.
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HintOfLogic · 06-09-2010, 05:25 AM

Here's Marion Barber's contract breakdown:

5/20/2008: Signed a seven-year, $45 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed, including a $12 million signing bonus. 2010: $3.86 million (+ $4 million roster bonus due in March), 2011: $4.25 million, 2012: $5.75 million, 2013: $6.25 million, 2014: $7 million, 2015: Free Agent

from an agent / players point of view, why should Pierre expect anything less than this? ....bare in mind too, he's coming back to a team fresh off a super bowl win as a the most productive player right behind their star QB.... something Barber has never had to bring to the table.

I personally like to compare Barber's contract, because I think the numbers are about right, and Barber is about as close of a comparison you can find in the NFL to Pierre by way of productivity, value to team, playing style, accountability, consistency, intensity, etc....

I also think it's jaded to not look around the league and find comparable players to Pierre, see what they're landing as far as contracts and assume Pierre could pursue the same.

All I see here is folks finding the most productive RB's in the league, on teams that otherwise have little value in other players than their overworked star RB's therefor hand out blank checks to their star RB's to keep them happy and their dwindling fans happy as they struggle to compete... so commit to sell tickets with their presence... but fail to see that there are other RB's equivalent to Pierre's productivity and value that ARE under contracts similar to what he's pursuing.

06-08-2010, 08:14 PM	#1
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Very interesting PT issue... Saints RB Pierre Thomas - I'm worth Steven Jackson money Now look, I love PT like no tomorrow, and he is a vital part of the Saints. But, Steven Jackson kind of money, lets get real. If this article is true, look for a very long hold out. JMO

06-08-2010, 08:53 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Very interesting PT issue... I like this: But this is the business of the NFL. With Mike Bell now the touchdown vulture in Philadelphia, Thomas will see an increased workload. And he deserves a raise for his contributions, his reliability, and his unique running style compared to the other New Orleans backs. His agent, Lamont Smith, will certainly remind the brass in the Big Easy of the clutch playoff performances, the straight-ahead mentality. And the Saints will listen. But if New Orleans wants to pay “Steven Jackson money” to a running back, they’ll pay it to a Steven Jackson. Pierre may very well be on his way to dominant status, but for now he’ll get Pierre Thomas money. How much that becomes is up to him.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Very interesting PT issue... he isn't going to get that much, plain and simple

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strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Very interesting PT issue... According to NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora, unsigned restricted free agent Pierre Thomas isn't close to getting a contract extension "Nothing's really evolved or escalated to this point," says LaCanfora. The Saints threw out an offer a couple of months ago, and they've been reluctant to go higher. Though beat writer Jeff Duncan has stated that the deal will "get done," LaCanfora maintains that nothing is imminent. Source Fantasy Football, Baseball and Basketball - draft guide, news, projections, cheatsheets, depth charts and more. Rotoworld.com

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HintOfLogic 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 194	Re: Very interesting PT issue... Here's Marion Barber's contract breakdown: 5/20/2008: Signed a seven-year, $45 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed, including a $12 million signing bonus. 2010: $3.86 million (+ $4 million roster bonus due in March), 2011: $4.25 million, 2012: $5.75 million, 2013: $6.25 million, 2014: $7 million, 2015: Free Agent from an agent / players point of view, why should Pierre expect anything less than this? ....bare in mind too, he's coming back to a team fresh off a super bowl win as a the most productive player right behind their star QB.... something Barber has never had to bring to the table. I personally like to compare Barber's contract, because I think the numbers are about right, and Barber is about as close of a comparison you can find in the NFL to Pierre by way of productivity, value to team, playing style, accountability, consistency, intensity, etc.... I also think it's jaded to not look around the league and find comparable players to Pierre, see what they're landing as far as contracts and assume Pierre could pursue the same. All I see here is folks finding the most productive RB's in the league, on teams that otherwise have little value in other players than their overworked star RB's therefor hand out blank checks to their star RB's to keep them happy and their dwindling fans happy as they struggle to compete... so commit to sell tickets with their presence... but fail to see that there are other RB's equivalent to Pierre's productivity and value that ARE under contracts similar to what he's pursuing.
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