Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-03-2003, 04:28 PM

Billy (New Orleans): Do you think Aaron Brooks is the leader that the Saints need to turn things around on offense? Especially in light of the horrendous start.

Randy Mueller: I think Aaron's leadership skills have been challenged..his laughing and smileing on the sidelines last week in their blowout loss to the Colts was hard to watch...I know he's a great kid but losing can't be that much fun...I'd like to see him take it personnally and step up and be accountable...he has all the skills to be a star but the intangibles are missing at present...

lumm0x · 10-03-2003, 04:50 PM

Is this an actual link or did you just make this up?

I can see Mueller saying exactly that though.

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-03-2003, 05:00 PM

Go to espn.Com. It\'s there.

[Edited on 10/4/2003 by Halo]

ScottyRo · 10-03-2003, 06:02 PM

I\'ve tracked down the link to that comment. The question and answer come about 16th on the list. I truly wish Mueler was still helming our ship. We\'d be much better off!

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=4086

JOESAM2002 · 10-03-2003, 09:03 PM

Amen, Scotty.

BrooksMustGo · 10-03-2003, 11:48 PM

I\'d pay real money to hear Mueller say, \"Brooks is a mental defective.\"

Or my own personal favorite, \"Aaron Brooks is Jeff George for a new generation.\"

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-04-2003, 11:13 AM

I\'ve tracked down the link to that comment. The question and answer come about 16th on the list. I truly wish Mueler was still helming our ship. We\'d be much better off!

Really? Well, wasn\'t Mueller the one that hired all the coaches here that y\'all are screaming to get rid of?? Aren\'t 90% of the players on this team the ones that Mueller brought in? Do you really think that one draft without Mueller is to blame for the way the Saints are playing this year? It\'s really hard for me to understand the way some of you think !!

Looks to me like all the complaints I hear from everyone on here are directly related to the coaches and players that Mueller brought in. Maybe I missing something? Be sure to let me know !!!

WhoDat · 10-05-2003, 11:14 AM

Billy, you\'re funny. When we criticize Brooks you say it\'s unfounded. Just look at what he\'s done, and \"I\'ll trust the coaches, who watch this guy every day in practice over you nimrods any day.\"

But when the guy responsible for bringing him in says something like that - which to me translates into: \"We gave him a shot b/c he has all the physical gifts, but as of yet he has been unable to prove he has any of the untangibles needed to be a successful NFL QB.\" - you AGAIN shift blame from Aaron.

Let\'s consider. I give Meuller credit for McAllister, Horn, Pathon, Stallworth, Bentley, Howard, and Grant on the plus side - A good part of our O-line, Carter, Bellamy, and Sloan on the bad side. Hand, Brooks, and a few others are toss-ups.

The Loomis/Haslett debacle gets credit for such greats as Orlando Ruff, Tebucky Jones, Gravy Jackson, Ashley Ambrose, and a whole slew of other draft picks that we know nothing about b/c even with this team being as bad as it is, they still can\'t crack the starting lineup. AND LOOMIS AND HASLETT HAD MORE MONEY, MORE PICKS, AND MORE FREEDOM TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED THIS OFFSEASON THAN MEULLER EVER DID!!!

Now, here\'s my favorite part of your argument. So far, you\'re blaming COACHING, along with injuries, as the reason for the Saints decline this season. Well Billy, WHO IS MAKING THE DECISION TO START BROOKS EVERY WEEK?!?!?! You have no confidence whatsoever in the coaches\' abilities to evaluate talent in the offseason, draft a game plan, or use their talent correctly at any position on the field EXCEPT AT QB?!?!

Check your logic Billy. If Never-Haz-Been and McCarthy are really to blame for the Saints woes, then how you can cling to the one belief that they stress most adamantly and pigheadedly and then call us crazy for not believeing is beyond me.

[Edited on 5/10/2003 by WhoDat]

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-05-2003, 11:22 AM

WhoDat --

My arguement had nothing to do with Brooks. The fact is that 90% of the players that are here now and ALL of the coaches were brought in by Mueller. Sure, Mueller brought in a lot of players. But, Mueller was here the past two years when this team collapsed. So, I ask you, how good of a job did Mueller really do? Everyone is calling for all of the caoches to be replaced. Who hired the coaches WhoDat. Who got rid of Glover and Joe Johnson? Seems to me that Mueller is much more responsible for this team than one draft without him.

WhoDat · 10-05-2003, 02:39 PM

I\'ll tel you what Billy, give me Meuller and a coaching staff that doesn\'t include Haslett, McCarthy, and Venturi, and I\'ll build you a winner. You assume that Meuller had a choice in who the Head coach was. I don\'t think that he did. I think Haslett was hired by Benson, and the assistants were a combo of Haslett and Benson, NOT MEULLER. Meuller\'s job is to bring in talent. Hve the Saints EVER had a more talented team? EVER?!?!?

10-03-2003, 04:28 PM	#1
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks Billy (New Orleans): Do you think Aaron Brooks is the leader that the Saints need to turn things around on offense? Especially in light of the horrendous start. Randy Mueller: I think Aaron's leadership skills have been challenged..his laughing and smileing on the sidelines last week in their blowout loss to the Colts was hard to watch...I know he's a great kid but losing can't be that much fun...I'd like to see him take it personnally and step up and be accountable...he has all the skills to be a star but the intangibles are missing at present...

10-03-2003, 04:50 PM	#2
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks Is this an actual link or did you just make this up? I can see Mueller saying exactly that though.

10-03-2003, 05:00 PM	#3
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks Go to espn.Com. It\'s there. [Edited on 10/4/2003 by Halo]

10-03-2003, 06:02 PM	#4
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks I\'ve tracked down the link to that comment. The question and answer come about 16th on the list. I truly wish Mueler was still helming our ship. We\'d be much better off! http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=4086

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JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks Amen, Scotty.

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BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks I\'d pay real money to hear Mueller say, \"Brooks is a mental defective.\" Or my own personal favorite, \"Aaron Brooks is Jeff George for a new generation.\"

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BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks I\'ve tracked down the link to that comment. The question and answer come about 16th on the list. I truly wish Mueler was still helming our ship. We\'d be much better off! Really? Well, wasn\'t Mueller the one that hired all the coaches here that y\'all are screaming to get rid of?? Aren\'t 90% of the players on this team the ones that Mueller brought in? Do you really think that one draft without Mueller is to blame for the way the Saints are playing this year? It\'s really hard for me to understand the way some of you think !! Looks to me like all the complaints I hear from everyone on here are directly related to the coaches and players that Mueller brought in. Maybe I missing something? Be sure to let me know !!!
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10-05-2003, 11:14 AM	#8
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks Billy, you\'re funny. When we criticize Brooks you say it\'s unfounded. Just look at what he\'s done, and \"I\'ll trust the coaches, who watch this guy every day in practice over you nimrods any day.\" But when the guy responsible for bringing him in says something like that - which to me translates into: \"We gave him a shot b/c he has all the physical gifts, but as of yet he has been unable to prove he has any of the untangibles needed to be a successful NFL QB.\" - you AGAIN shift blame from Aaron. Let\'s consider. I give Meuller credit for McAllister, Horn, Pathon, Stallworth, Bentley, Howard, and Grant on the plus side - A good part of our O-line, Carter, Bellamy, and Sloan on the bad side. Hand, Brooks, and a few others are toss-ups. The Loomis/Haslett debacle gets credit for such greats as Orlando Ruff, Tebucky Jones, Gravy Jackson, Ashley Ambrose, and a whole slew of other draft picks that we know nothing about b/c even with this team being as bad as it is, they still can\'t crack the starting lineup. AND LOOMIS AND HASLETT HAD MORE MONEY, MORE PICKS, AND MORE FREEDOM TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED THIS OFFSEASON THAN MEULLER EVER DID!!! Now, here\'s my favorite part of your argument. So far, you\'re blaming COACHING, along with injuries, as the reason for the Saints decline this season. Well Billy, WHO IS MAKING THE DECISION TO START BROOKS EVERY WEEK?!?!?! You have no confidence whatsoever in the coaches\' abilities to evaluate talent in the offseason, draft a game plan, or use their talent correctly at any position on the field EXCEPT AT QB?!?! Check your logic Billy. If Never-Haz-Been and McCarthy are really to blame for the Saints woes, then how you can cling to the one belief that they stress most adamantly and pigheadedly and then call us crazy for not believeing is beyond me. [Edited on 5/10/2003 by WhoDat]
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10-05-2003, 11:22 AM	#9
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks WhoDat -- My arguement had nothing to do with Brooks. The fact is that 90% of the players that are here now and ALL of the coaches were brought in by Mueller. Sure, Mueller brought in a lot of players. But, Mueller was here the past two years when this team collapsed. So, I ask you, how good of a job did Mueller really do? Everyone is calling for all of the caoches to be replaced. Who hired the coaches WhoDat. Who got rid of Glover and Joe Johnson? Seems to me that Mueller is much more responsible for this team than one draft without him.
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10-05-2003, 02:39 PM	#10
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Here's what Randy Mueller thinks of Brooks I\'ll tel you what Billy, give me Meuller and a coaching staff that doesn\'t include Haslett, McCarthy, and Venturi, and I\'ll build you a winner. You assume that Meuller had a choice in who the Head coach was. I don\'t think that he did. I think Haslett was hired by Benson, and the assistants were a combo of Haslett and Benson, NOT MEULLER. Meuller\'s job is to bring in talent. Hve the Saints EVER had a more talented team? EVER?!?!?
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