Should the NFL change the 53 man roster size?

saintsfan1976 · 08-17-2010, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

The real issue I think is the 4 pre-season games. Is it really worth it? Can they get by with only 2 instead of 4. I say yes. so with those extra 2 weeks do they just do away with them or add them to the regular season. I don't see who it hurts by adding it to the regular season. Networks make more money? Ok, no problem there. Players may make more money? Ok no problem there. Increase roster sure 56. The fans get 2 more weeks of real football? ok win there.
Whats the problem?

There is not problem.

Totally agree, but cutting preseason won't happen - not any less than 3 pre games imo.

Let's look at just how much preseason has grown in terms of attendance and revenue over the past 10 years. That's in direct relation to the success of the regular season. I think it's more of the fans crying for less preseason anyway...

Srgt. Hulka · 08-17-2010, 11:22 AM

If they want to extend the season, keep the games at 16 and add a couple more bye weeks and allow the injured players more time to heal. There is extended TV coverage, more revenue for the networks and the NFL, and everybody is happy. IMO

saintsfan1976 · 08-17-2010, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka

If they want to extend the season, keep the games at 16 and add a couple more bye weeks and allow the injured players more time to heal. There is extended TV coverage, more revenue for the networks and the NFL, and everybody is happy. IMO

I salute you Sgt. on your out-of-the-box thinking!! But extra bye weeks should mean more games, don't ya think??

Rugby Saint II · 08-17-2010, 11:56 AM

Additional games should mean additional bye weeks.

mikesaintfan · 08-17-2010, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

The real issue I think is the 4 pre-season games. Is it really worth it? Can they get by with only 2 instead of 4. I say yes. so with those extra 2 weeks do they just do away with them or add them to the regular season. I don't see who it hurts by adding it to the regular season. Networks make more money? Ok, no problem there. Players may make more money? Ok no problem there. Increase roster sure 56. The fans get 2 more weeks of real football? ok win there.
Whats the problem?

There is not problem.

what he said

Danno · 08-17-2010, 12:09 PM

Increases in roster size favors the specialists, decreasing roster size would benefit the do-it-all types.

How about keeping it at 53, but increase practice squads and lighten up a bit on PS rules?

saintsfan1976 · 08-17-2010, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Increases in roster size favors the specialists, decreasing roster size would benefit the do-it-all types.

How about keeping it at 53, but increase practice squads and lighten up a bit on PS rules?

Definitely do-able imo. Also like the ability to dress more players for game day.

ScottF · 08-17-2010, 01:07 PM

Mandated by the NFL, pre-season tickets cost the same as regular season tickets, and all teams force season ticket holders to buy them.
Contrary to what someone posted, PS attendance isn't great- a lot of season ticket holders give PS tix away or eat them, and some teams (ATL, for example) sell them for as low as $5.

What's my point? well, changing a pre-season game to a regular season game increases the value of the season ticket package by 10-12%. Should this extra revenue go to bigger rosters? Definitely

The flip side is roster size now. I can see a ST gunner, a pass-rush specialist, and maybe even a third down back, but some teams carry a second kicker, or a guy who can only long-snap, and/or positions that are too specialized. Leave it at 53 and make the GMs manage it

strato · 08-17-2010, 03:57 PM

How about let us fans play on the bye weeks...

saintsfan1976 · 08-17-2010, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Mandated by the NFL, pre-season tickets cost the same as regular season tickets, and all teams force season ticket holders to buy them.
Contrary to what someone posted, PS attendance isn't great- a lot of season ticket holders give PS tix away or eat them, and some teams (ATL, for example) sell them for as low as $5.

What's my point? well, changing a pre-season game to a regular season game increases the value of the season ticket package by 10-12%. Should this extra revenue go to bigger rosters? Definitely

The flip side is roster size now. I can see a ST gunner, a pass-rush specialist, and maybe even a third down back, but some teams carry a second kicker, or a guy who can only long-snap, and/or positions that are too specialized. Leave it at 53 and make the GMs manage it

You're forgetting to acknowledge the TV contracts and sponsors for preseason. IT doesn't matter what season ticket holders do with their tickets - they've already PAID for them...

Besides, EVERY preseason game is watched more than in years past bc the NFL audience is bigger than before.

08-17-2010, 10:06 AM	#11
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Euphoria The real issue I think is the 4 pre-season games. Is it really worth it? Can they get by with only 2 instead of 4. I say yes. so with those extra 2 weeks do they just do away with them or add them to the regular season. I don't see who it hurts by adding it to the regular season. Networks make more money? Ok, no problem there. Players may make more money? Ok no problem there. Increase roster sure 56. The fans get 2 more weeks of real football? ok win there. Whats the problem? There is not problem. Totally agree, but cutting preseason won't happen - not any less than 3 pre games imo. Let's look at just how much preseason has grown in terms of attendance and revenue over the past 10 years. That's in direct relation to the success of the regular season. I think it's more of the fans crying for less preseason anyway...

08-17-2010, 11:25 AM	#13
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka If they want to extend the season, keep the games at 16 and add a couple more bye weeks and allow the injured players more time to heal. There is extended TV coverage, more revenue for the networks and the NFL, and everybody is happy. IMO I salute you Sgt. on your out-of-the-box thinking!! But extra bye weeks should mean more games, don't ya think??

08-17-2010, 12:07 PM	#15
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Originally Posted by Euphoria The real issue I think is the 4 pre-season games. Is it really worth it? Can they get by with only 2 instead of 4. I say yes. so with those extra 2 weeks do they just do away with them or add them to the regular season. I don't see who it hurts by adding it to the regular season. Networks make more money? Ok, no problem there. Players may make more money? Ok no problem there. Increase roster sure 56. The fans get 2 more weeks of real football? ok win there. Whats the problem? There is not problem. what he said

08-17-2010, 12:13 PM	#17
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno Increases in roster size favors the specialists, decreasing roster size would benefit the do-it-all types. How about keeping it at 53, but increase practice squads and lighten up a bit on PS rules? Definitely do-able imo. Also like the ability to dress more players for game day.

08-17-2010, 04:04 PM	#20
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by ScottF Mandated by the NFL, pre-season tickets cost the same as regular season tickets, and all teams force season ticket holders to buy them. Contrary to what someone posted, PS attendance isn't great- a lot of season ticket holders give PS tix away or eat them, and some teams (ATL, for example) sell them for as low as $5. What's my point? well, changing a pre-season game to a regular season game increases the value of the season ticket package by 10-12%. Should this extra revenue go to bigger rosters? Definitely The flip side is roster size now. I can see a ST gunner, a pass-rush specialist, and maybe even a third down back, but some teams carry a second kicker, or a guy who can only long-snap, and/or positions that are too specialized. Leave it at 53 and make the GMs manage it You're forgetting to acknowledge the TV contracts and sponsors for preseason. IT doesn't matter what season ticket holders do with their tickets - they've already PAID for them... Besides, EVERY preseason game is watched more than in years past bc the NFL audience is bigger than before.

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08-17-2010, 11:22 AM	#12
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	If they want to extend the season, keep the games at 16 and add a couple more bye weeks and allow the injured players more time to heal. There is extended TV coverage, more revenue for the networks and the NFL, and everybody is happy. IMO

08-17-2010, 11:56 AM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Additional games should mean additional bye weeks.

08-17-2010, 12:09 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Increases in roster size favors the specialists, decreasing roster size would benefit the do-it-all types. How about keeping it at 53, but increase practice squads and lighten up a bit on PS rules?

08-17-2010, 01:07 PM	#18
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Mandated by the NFL, pre-season tickets cost the same as regular season tickets, and all teams force season ticket holders to buy them. Contrary to what someone posted, PS attendance isn't great- a lot of season ticket holders give PS tix away or eat them, and some teams (ATL, for example) sell them for as low as $5. What's my point? well, changing a pre-season game to a regular season game increases the value of the season ticket package by 10-12%. Should this extra revenue go to bigger rosters? Definitely The flip side is roster size now. I can see a ST gunner, a pass-rush specialist, and maybe even a third down back, but some teams carry a second kicker, or a guy who can only long-snap, and/or positions that are too specialized. Leave it at 53 and make the GMs manage it

08-17-2010, 03:57 PM	#19
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	How about let us fans play on the bye weeks...