So Adam Schefter finally got me ready...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-07-2010, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Good thing it's not subject to discussion or there might be fans out there that would remind you that he's on his 2nd NFL team. Somewhere in San Diego a few years back I have to believe that there were some serious discussions along these lines...only their discussion were about whether he was good enough to be the QB for their team, which they decided he was not or at least they weren't sure...no?

That's due to AJ Smith, the GM of the Chargers, running scared after Brees tore up his labrum in a meaningless pro bowl. But they would have probably pulled the trigger anyway. Brees was a free agent. Rivers was on a rookie contract. Smith had already done the dirty deed and traded up to #1 to get Rivers. There was no way the Chargers were not going to give him the reigns.

But I get sick of Brees just "being in the discussion". Check the facts in the last 4 years:

1) #1 in every significant QB category.

2) More passing yards (18000+) is a 4 year span in the history of the NFL.

3) New record for completion percentage (70.6 %)
for a season. And this isn't just dinking and dunking the ball. Brees' YPC last year was over 12 yards.

4) He was the MVP of the league last year. Just jobbed by the usual suspects.

So like I said: not subject to discussion.

SFIAH

Danno · 09-07-2010, 06:46 AM

Great stuff SFIAH, its like I wrote it myself.

Except for one thing.

I don't think losing Casillas is a huge blow. He wasn't even the starter heading into camp. It was virtually a tie between Dunbar and Casillas as to which would replace the mediocre Fujita. Casillas separated himself a bit in camp but he was/is still an unproven commodity.

A huge blow would be losing Vilma or Harper or Ellis or Smith. Losing Casillas is a blow, but IMO its a blow along the lines of losing someone like Henderson or Moore on offense. There's not a huge dropoff between Casillas and the rest of the crew. Its a blow, just not a major one IMO.

But I sure was looking forward to seeing how Gregg Williams was going to use his blazing speed.

Saint_LB · 09-07-2010, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

That's due to AJ Smith, the GM of the Chargers, running scared after Brees tore up his labrum in a meaningless pro bowl. But they would have probably pulled the trigger anyway. Brees was a free agent. Rivers was on a rookie contract. Smith had already done the dirty deed and traded up to #1 to get Rivers. There was no way the Chargers were not going to give him the reigns.

But I get sick of Brees just "being in the discussion". Check the facts in the last 4 years:

1) #1 in every significant QB category.

2) More passing yards (18000+) is a 4 year span in the history of the NFL.

3) New record for completion percentage (70.6 %)
for a season. And this isn't just dinking and dunking the ball. Brees' YPC last year was over 12 yards.

4) He was the MVP of the league last year. Just jobbed by the usual suspects.

So like I said: not subject to discussion.

SFIAH

I agree with you, SFIAH...I do believe he is right there. For me, it's really hard to say who is actually "the best", but with Brees' pinpoint accuracy, it's hard for me to say he's not the best.

I'm sure that outside of Whodat Nation, however, there are people you could probably find who would debate with you. They'd be wrong, though.

09-07-2010, 06:22 AM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Originally Posted by Saint_LB Good thing it's not subject to discussion or there might be fans out there that would remind you that he's on his 2nd NFL team. Somewhere in San Diego a few years back I have to believe that there were some serious discussions along these lines...only their discussion were about whether he was good enough to be the QB for their team, which they decided he was not or at least they weren't sure...no? That's due to AJ Smith, the GM of the Chargers, running scared after Brees tore up his labrum in a meaningless pro bowl. But they would have probably pulled the trigger anyway. Brees was a free agent. Rivers was on a rookie contract. Smith had already done the dirty deed and traded up to #1 to get Rivers. There was no way the Chargers were not going to give him the reigns. But I get sick of Brees just "being in the discussion". Check the facts in the last 4 years: 1) #1 in every significant QB category. 2) More passing yards (18000+) is a 4 year span in the history of the NFL. 3) New record for completion percentage (70.6 %) for a season. And this isn't just dinking and dunking the ball. Brees' YPC last year was over 12 yards. 4) He was the MVP of the league last year. Just jobbed by the usual suspects. So like I said: not subject to discussion. SFIAH
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09-07-2010, 03:56 PM	#3
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL That's due to AJ Smith, the GM of the Chargers, running scared after Brees tore up his labrum in a meaningless pro bowl. But they would have probably pulled the trigger anyway. Brees was a free agent. Rivers was on a rookie contract. Smith had already done the dirty deed and traded up to #1 to get Rivers. There was no way the Chargers were not going to give him the reigns. But I get sick of Brees just "being in the discussion". Check the facts in the last 4 years: 1) #1 in every significant QB category. 2) More passing yards (18000+) is a 4 year span in the history of the NFL. 3) New record for completion percentage (70.6 %) for a season. And this isn't just dinking and dunking the ball. Brees' YPC last year was over 12 yards. 4) He was the MVP of the league last year. Just jobbed by the usual suspects. So like I said: not subject to discussion. SFIAH I agree with you, SFIAH...I do believe he is right there. For me, it's really hard to say who is actually "the best", but with Brees' pinpoint accuracy, it's hard for me to say he's not the best. I'm sure that outside of Whodat Nation, however, there are people you could probably find who would debate with you. They'd be wrong, though.
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09-07-2010, 06:46 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Great stuff SFIAH, its like I wrote it myself. Except for one thing. I don't think losing Casillas is a huge blow. He wasn't even the starter heading into camp. It was virtually a tie between Dunbar and Casillas as to which would replace the mediocre Fujita. Casillas separated himself a bit in camp but he was/is still an unproven commodity. A huge blow would be losing Vilma or Harper or Ellis or Smith. Losing Casillas is a blow, but IMO its a blow along the lines of losing someone like Henderson or Moore on offense. There's not a huge dropoff between Casillas and the rest of the crew. Its a blow, just not a major one IMO. But I sure was looking forward to seeing how Gregg Williams was going to use his blazing speed.