An exercise in opinions

WhoDat · 10-22-2003, 04:15 PM

OK, well, for sake of argument, let\'s say I\'m Pro-life. Now, on a topic like this, which is particularly sensitive, wouldn\'t you think I could also support my position well? I could cite all types of medical opinions, liberal doctorine that promotes choice, etc. etc. etc.

OK, now I think that we would agree that there is one universal truth on this subject. I also think that we would agree that we don\'t know what that universal truth is. Am I right so far?

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-22-2003, 04:19 PM

OK, now I think that we would agree that there is one universal truth on this subject.

NO. You are not right. There is not one universal truth. It goes very deep into one\'s personal beliefs. It also starts to get into religion and there is no one universal religion. This is something that is about every individual\'s belief. It his hardly comparable to being making a point that EVERY opinion is justified.

saintfan · 10-22-2003, 04:19 PM

In 1492...
da dum dum
Cloumbus Sailed the Ocean Blue...
de dum dum
He went so fast...
He slid on his azz...
and pee\'d all over the crew.

LOL

Sorry Whodat, but the medication wore off and I just couldn\'t resist. I\'m laughing so hard now I can\'t type...that\'s all I have to say....again...sorry...I just took another pill>

:P

WhoDat · 10-22-2003, 04:20 PM

One other thing - you two need to take your BS argument out of my thread. Thanks.

WhoDat · 10-22-2003, 04:22 PM

Whoa...

OK Billy, so what you\'re saying is that there is NO universal truth on when a life is created? Am I reading that right? That issue is simply a matter of perception? Is that how you really feel?

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-22-2003, 04:25 PM

I do not know exactly what point a human life beigins. NO.

[Edited on 22/10/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

[Edited on 22/10/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-22-2003, 04:29 PM

Gator -- That makes ALMOST as much sense as what some folks have been telling me about Brooks. Now if you\'ve got to change the Earth from FLAT to ROUND in one year\'s time, then I\'m going to call you a EARTH BASHER and question your loyalty to the earth.

WhoDat · 10-22-2003, 04:31 PM

OK - but b/c YOU don\'t know the when a life begins does not mean that there isn\'t some universal truth about it... right? For example, is there life somewhere else in the universe? We don\'t know, but there is or there isn\'t. Just b/c we don\'t know that doesn\'t change the universal truth about life outside of earth, right?

BillyCarpenter1 · 10-22-2003, 04:36 PM

We can have our opinions but we can\'t prove what you are talking about. Is that what you\'re looking for?

WhoDat · 10-22-2003, 04:40 PM

I\'m not looking for anything but honesty from you, but yes I would agree with that statement you just made.

So, thus far, in our HYPOTHETICAL discussion, we\'ve established:
a) You\'re Pro-life.
b) I\'m Pro-choice
c) That we cannot currently prove unequivically when a life is created.

Agreed?

10-22-2003, 04:15 PM	#11
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	An exercise in opinions OK, well, for sake of argument, let\'s say I\'m Pro-life. Now, on a topic like this, which is particularly sensitive, wouldn\'t you think I could also support my position well? I could cite all types of medical opinions, liberal doctorine that promotes choice, etc. etc. etc. OK, now I think that we would agree that there is one universal truth on this subject. I also think that we would agree that we don\'t know what that universal truth is. Am I right so far?
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10-22-2003, 04:19 PM	#12
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	An exercise in opinions OK, now I think that we would agree that there is one universal truth on this subject. NO. You are not right. There is not one universal truth. It goes very deep into one\'s personal beliefs. It also starts to get into religion and there is no one universal religion. This is something that is about every individual\'s belief. It his hardly comparable to being making a point that EVERY opinion is justified.
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	An exercise in opinions In 1492... da dum dum Cloumbus Sailed the Ocean Blue... de dum dum He went so fast... He slid on his azz... and pee\'d all over the crew. LOL Sorry Whodat, but the medication wore off and I just couldn\'t resist. I\'m laughing so hard now I can\'t type...that\'s all I have to say....again...sorry...I just took another pill> :P

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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	An exercise in opinions One other thing - you two need to take your BS argument out of my thread. Thanks.
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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	An exercise in opinions Whoa... OK Billy, so what you\'re saying is that there is NO universal truth on when a life is created? Am I reading that right? That issue is simply a matter of perception? Is that how you really feel?
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BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	An exercise in opinions I do not know exactly what point a human life beigins. NO. [Edited on 22/10/2003 by BillyCarpenter1] [Edited on 22/10/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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10-22-2003, 04:29 PM	#17
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	An exercise in opinions Gator -- That makes ALMOST as much sense as what some folks have been telling me about Brooks. Now if you\'ve got to change the Earth from FLAT to ROUND in one year\'s time, then I\'m going to call you a EARTH BASHER and question your loyalty to the earth.
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10-22-2003, 04:31 PM	#18
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	An exercise in opinions OK - but b/c YOU don\'t know the when a life begins does not mean that there isn\'t some universal truth about it... right? For example, is there life somewhere else in the universe? We don\'t know, but there is or there isn\'t. Just b/c we don\'t know that doesn\'t change the universal truth about life outside of earth, right?
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10-22-2003, 04:36 PM	#19
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	An exercise in opinions We can have our opinions but we can\'t prove what you are talking about. Is that what you\'re looking for?
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10-22-2003, 04:40 PM	#20
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	An exercise in opinions I\'m not looking for anything but honesty from you, but yes I would agree with that statement you just made. So, thus far, in our HYPOTHETICAL discussion, we\'ve established: a) You\'re Pro-life. b) I\'m Pro-choice c) That we cannot currently prove unequivically when a life is created. Agreed?
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