Negative Vibes Abound

Choupique · 09-22-2010, 06:13 AM

I've seen ugly and that wasn't even close.

How many turnovers do the Saints have in the last two games?

They're 2-0

Try and act like it, fairweather fans.

Believe. Have faith. Two dat.

saintfan · 09-22-2010, 08:20 AM

All you "Hey we're 2-0" people...Tampa is 2-0 too. There is a difference. Would Tampa be 2-0 versus the Vikings and the 49ers? Not very likely. Then again, that's not really the point.

It doesn't take a grown up (although I'm 41 and not 14) to see how we struggled against the run and in pass protection and in run blocking...in fact we got owned on both sides of the line. Regardless of someone's age, those that fail to see that aren't paying attention - but you can bet your 2-0 asses that coach noticed. That was an ugly win, and I'd be willing to bet the entire Saints team would agree. You have to win those too, which we did, because we're good, but there is no excuse for how we played, especially on defense.

Believing, having faith, and being optimistic have next to nothing to do with reality.

Of course we could very well go undefeated this year, but we better score 30+ points a game.

Saint_LB · 09-22-2010, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

It doesn't take a grown up (although I'm 41 and not 14) to see how we struggled against the run and in pass protection and in run blocking...

I think maybe you missed the point. Saying that someone could not be very old was meant to point-out that you must not have been around when the 9'ers were doing the exact same thing to us...and then going on to the playoffs because they won those games and we didn't.

It is so gratifying to me to see us come out ahead in these types of games...which you will always see, because rarely does a team become so dominant that they don't have some squeakers or clinkers...and not the other way around.

Again, if you'd witnessed those losses, then you couldn't think of these wins as anything but beautiful, IMO.

SapperSaint · 09-22-2010, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Again, if you'd witnessed those losses, then you couldn't think of these wins as anything but beautiful, IMO.

Totally agree and not just games against the 9ers either. Even though beating them in a sweaker does put neosporin on those old wounds!

Euphoria · 09-22-2010, 09:23 AM

We are the same team we were last year!

Clowns...

What are yall talking about. We had games we were about to lose and big plays gave us the win.

Did you see any of the games last year?

DblBogey · 09-22-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

We are the same team we were last year!

Clowns...

What are yall talking about. We had games we were about to lose and big plays gave us the win.

Did you see any of the games last year?

Ditto . . . There were more than a couple that we came from behind to win. In fact I was of the mindset that we had to get behind to motivates us . . . as another post says "Saints Find a Way to Win"

Danno · 09-22-2010, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Did you see any of the games last year?

Saw every one of them numerous times, slo-mo and everything.

Not once was our O-line AND D-line manhandled like they were against the 49ers.

If you didn't notice that, you need to watch more football.

Danno · 09-22-2010, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by strato

But yet we draft a CB?....hmmm...and let Fujita go..and dont give Juneyah a chance..im like you Danno ..i watched all the games..and we have regressed on the D-Line if were using the San Fran game as a barometer..

Yeah so far it looks to be the case. I have confidence that GW and Payton will get it fixed though.

The good news is that we didn't look good at all, but still got the win, and even on the road. Thats what championship teams do.

saintfan · 09-22-2010, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I think maybe you missed the point. Saying that someone could not be very old was meant to point-out that you must not have been around when the 9'ers were doing the exact same thing to us...and then going on to the playoffs because they won those games and we didn't.

It is so gratifying to me to see us come out ahead in these types of games...which you will always see, because rarely does a team become so dominant that they don't have some squeakers or clinkers...and not the other way around.

Again, if you'd witnessed those losses, then you couldn't think of these wins as anything but beautiful, IMO.

I love the win. I even enjoy how we won, as Steve Young stated, because historically we lose those games. That doesn't change the fact that we got the hell kicked out of us up and down the field all night long. My devotion to this team will never be measured on me calling it like I see it - in fact like most saw it. Being happy about the win while acknowledging that we got our asses handed to us and that we were extremely fortunate doesn't make me a band wagoner, a fair weather fan, or in any way indicate my age.

I expect we'll get better. I hope so for sure. If not I'll be right back here Sunday griping about piss-poor blocking and tackling all over again.

papz · 09-22-2010, 12:20 PM

We just played bad football in challenging road conditions(wind played a big factor in the score imo) and we still came away with the win against a decent team with a solid defense.

Conclusion - We're a pretty damn good football team.

You can win big or you can win ugly... it's going to mean 0 difference as long as we get to the playoffs. Tampa, Baltimore, etc. played some ugly UGLY football then they won the Superbowl... so what? We can't expect to go out there and dominate every football game... this isn't peewee league football.

Next up... the Dirty Birds in the Dome.

09-22-2010, 06:13 AM	#41
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	I've seen ugly and that wasn't even close. How many turnovers do the Saints have in the last two games? They're 2-0 Try and act like it, fairweather fans. Believe. Have faith. Two dat.
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09-22-2010, 08:20 AM	#42
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	All you "Hey we're 2-0" people...Tampa is 2-0 too. There is a difference. Would Tampa be 2-0 versus the Vikings and the 49ers? Not very likely. Then again, that's not really the point. It doesn't take a grown up (although I'm 41 and not 14) to see how we struggled against the run and in pass protection and in run blocking...in fact we got owned on both sides of the line. Regardless of someone's age, those that fail to see that aren't paying attention - but you can bet your 2-0 asses that coach noticed. That was an ugly win, and I'd be willing to bet the entire Saints team would agree. You have to win those too, which we did, because we're good, but there is no excuse for how we played, especially on defense. Believing, having faith, and being optimistic have next to nothing to do with reality. Of course we could very well go undefeated this year, but we better score 30+ points a game.
	C'mon Man...

09-22-2010, 08:36 AM	#43
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by saintfan It doesn't take a grown up (although I'm 41 and not 14) to see how we struggled against the run and in pass protection and in run blocking... I think maybe you missed the point. Saying that someone could not be very old was meant to point-out that you must not have been around when the 9'ers were doing the exact same thing to us...and then going on to the playoffs because they won those games and we didn't. It is so gratifying to me to see us come out ahead in these types of games...which you will always see, because rarely does a team become so dominant that they don't have some squeakers or clinkers...and not the other way around. Again, if you'd witnessed those losses, then you couldn't think of these wins as anything but beautiful, IMO.
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09-22-2010, 09:05 AM	#44
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by Saint_LB Again, if you'd witnessed those losses, then you couldn't think of these wins as anything but beautiful, IMO. Totally agree and not just games against the 9ers either. Even though beating them in a sweaker does put neosporin on those old wounds!

09-22-2010, 10:53 AM	#46
DblBogey 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 538	Originally Posted by Euphoria We are the same team we were last year! Clowns... What are yall talking about. We had games we were about to lose and big plays gave us the win. Did you see any of the games last year? Ditto . . . There were more than a couple that we came from behind to win. In fact I was of the mindset that we had to get behind to motivates us . . . as another post says "Saints Find a Way to Win"
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09-22-2010, 09:23 AM	#45
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	We are the same team we were last year! Clowns... What are yall talking about. We had games we were about to lose and big plays gave us the win. Did you see any of the games last year?

09-22-2010, 11:13 AM	#47
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by Euphoria Did you see any of the games last year? Saw every one of them numerous times, slo-mo and everything. Not once was our O-line AND D-line manhandled like they were against the 49ers. If you didn't notice that, you need to watch more football.

09-22-2010, 11:28 AM	#48
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by strato But yet we draft a CB?....hmmm...and let Fujita go..and dont give Juneyah a chance..im like you Danno ..i watched all the games..and we have regressed on the D-Line if were using the San Fran game as a barometer.. Yeah so far it looks to be the case. I have confidence that GW and Payton will get it fixed though. The good news is that we didn't look good at all, but still got the win, and even on the road. Thats what championship teams do.

09-22-2010, 11:39 AM	#49
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Saint_LB I think maybe you missed the point. Saying that someone could not be very old was meant to point-out that you must not have been around when the 9'ers were doing the exact same thing to us...and then going on to the playoffs because they won those games and we didn't. It is so gratifying to me to see us come out ahead in these types of games...which you will always see, because rarely does a team become so dominant that they don't have some squeakers or clinkers...and not the other way around. Again, if you'd witnessed those losses, then you couldn't think of these wins as anything but beautiful, IMO. I love the win. I even enjoy how we won, as Steve Young stated, because historically we lose those games. That doesn't change the fact that we got the hell kicked out of us up and down the field all night long. My devotion to this team will never be measured on me calling it like I see it - in fact like most saw it. Being happy about the win while acknowledging that we got our asses handed to us and that we were extremely fortunate doesn't make me a band wagoner, a fair weather fan, or in any way indicate my age. I expect we'll get better. I hope so for sure. If not I'll be right back here Sunday griping about piss-poor blocking and tackling all over again.
	C'mon Man...

09-22-2010, 12:20 PM	#50
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	We just played bad football in challenging road conditions(wind played a big factor in the score imo) and we still came away with the win against a decent team with a solid defense. Conclusion - We're a pretty damn good football team. You can win big or you can win ugly... it's going to mean 0 difference as long as we get to the playoffs. Tampa, Baltimore, etc. played some ugly UGLY football then they won the Superbowl... so what? We can't expect to go out there and dominate every football game... this isn't peewee league football. Next up... the Dirty Birds in the Dome.
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