Bye Hartley it was fun while it lastest. Cut him first thing tomorrow. So who is on the wavier wire.

So you put him in if Brees and our offense don't score in 3 plays, or even more if we get a 1st down.

I trust Brees and his boys on 1st down at the 12 more than just about any kicker.

Look at the game winning field goal against the 49ers and then look at the one he missed today. The look almost identical. He's overcompensating for something but coach should have corrected that after last game when he almost missed that one.

all true halo but we know coach payton does'nt like to part with his draft picks.

Bring in who?

What kicker that's so good is just sitting at home waiting for a call from an NFL team?

I'm being serious, I don't know of anyone just "available" off top of my head. They're all playing for other NFL teams.

so seriously Danno, are we N.E. and letting go a vinatieri go? I know it hurts, and hes messing up, but that the answer. I hate hartley today, because we won easy, and SP made the write call and we lost.

in 2009 vinatieri got colts into the SB, this the road we want to take?

hartley Fd up, we lost, it was an easy kick, he Fd up

Weren't you a kicker...why not you?

The defense should have played better all around. Run defense was porous. Atlanta killed us on 3rd down (something like 50% conversions), and the Falcons converted TWO 4th and 2s on that late 2nd quarter touchdown drive. The secondary was RAPED by the big play. Gonzales had a field day catching the ball, mostly in the first half, but the damage had been done.

Offense looked inoffensive at times. We didn't run the ball very much or very effectively- 16 attempts for 43 yards. We lived and died by the home run ball, and that killed us. Yes, Lance Moore had an 80 yard grab for a TD, but Brees also gave up an INT on a deep pass, which just killed the drive, and a couple more missed/dropped deep balls which led to 3 and outs.

Penalties! Stupid penalties all over the field. How man pass interference calls were there on us? Ayodele's horse collar tackle on 2-1 from our 1, it would have been 3rd-1 instead of 1-1.

Time of Possession: ATL 45:50 NOR 27:15. If you can't continue drives, you can't score points.

We beat ourselves, and have only ourselves to blame, NOT JUST the kicker.

The return game was kind of our only bright spot. Moore's return in the 1st quarter set us up for an easy 6 yard drive to score.

I'm not for cutting him. There isn't much better available.

I'm simply against taking the ball out of Drews hands on 1st down and giving the ball to a kicker who's 3-5 for the year.

If it was 4th down, or probably 3rd, I'd have given it to Hartley, but not 1st down.

Hate to say it but lil chip shots like that, even old folks and girls can make those ;)