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CheramieIII 09-26-2010 03:32 PM

Maybe we need a new kicker.....
 
The guy has missed several this year and this one cost us the game. The one he kicked last week looked just like the one today but just happened to go through the uprights. I really think we need to start looking for another kicker. Damn I am PO right now!

Cory9289 09-26-2010 03:35 PM

A lot of things cost us the game. Again, we start off like a nuclear bomb and simmer down to a winter water puddle.

Danno 09-26-2010 03:36 PM

I disagreed with kicking on 1st down. We were moving the ball well. Why put it in the hands of a kicker who's looked bad all year?

biloxi-indian 09-26-2010 03:37 PM

The only consistent is the inconsistency! sounds like my golf game.

satch 09-26-2010 03:37 PM

Cut him now!

Cory9289 09-26-2010 03:38 PM

Yeah, I don't understand that. A few yards closer and it woulda went in.

Donuts32 09-26-2010 03:40 PM

I don't understand Payton. Why not run the ball or pass to pick up a first down. But Hartley should have made that 29 freaking yard kick. He needs competition.

AllSaints 09-26-2010 03:42 PM

I WILLLLLL NEEEVVERRRR HAVE FAITH IN HARTLEY AGAIN.... GOOOD A GRAMATICA IN MY OPINION GET RID HIS A$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !!!!!!!

CheramieIII 09-26-2010 03:43 PM

That kick in Frisco last week looked just like this one and that scares the hell out of me. The first 2 he missed against the Viqueens I think he missed right also. That should tell the coach something or at least that damn kicker. He better not show his face the rest of the damn day it's time for a time out.

QBREES9 09-26-2010 03:44 PM

We had our chances to win. Hartley was just a part of it.

Cory9289 09-26-2010 03:44 PM

I'll state my belief, never let it come down to a kicker. Sooner or later, the mistakes will show.

subguy 09-26-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 249471)
I disagreed with kicking on 1st down. We were moving the ball well. Why put it in the hands of a kicker who's looked bad all year?

I said the same thing...we didn't have to kick

st thomas 09-26-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 249471)
I disagreed with kicking on 1st down. We were moving the ball well. Why put it in the hands of a kicker who's looked bad all year?

100% agreed

Cory9289 09-26-2010 03:46 PM

True, never know, Chris or PT coulda broke one for a TD.

|Mitch| 09-26-2010 03:46 PM

1st down on the 11 and moving the ball well; should have just kept giving PT the ball...

st thomas 09-26-2010 03:49 PM

they were giving up man, why not keep pounding the freakin ball they thru the damn towel in a few plays before.

SupaSaint77 09-26-2010 03:52 PM

Ok we need a new kicker
 
we got out played and out coached!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C17-BING 09-26-2010 03:54 PM

Look, this came down to 3 things:

1. Brees STOP trying to be Favresque!!!
2. Hartley STOP thinking so damn much and kick the ball!!!
3. Defense ... Do you think we MIGHT STOP someone soon?

saintsfan601 09-26-2010 03:54 PM

Kicking on first down wtf.Pound the ball maybe you break one for a touchdown.

|Mitch| 09-26-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupaSaint77 (Post 249490)
we got out played and out coached!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neither; 3 TO's was too much to over-come, we beat ourselves...Cheer Up; this one game is not the end of the season

st thomas 09-26-2010 03:58 PM

i posted on the chat board to maybe bring in a kicker and most said no.

cajunvoodoo 09-26-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 249471)
I disagreed with kicking on 1st down. We were moving the ball well. Why put it in the hands of a kicker who's looked bad all year?

I agree Danno. I also have to blame a little on Sean doing the stupid kicker icing time out. I absolutely hate when coaches pull that BS. We are above that sort of crap in my opinion.

st thomas 09-26-2010 03:59 PM

right it don't make the season ,but it could set a trend

satch 09-26-2010 04:00 PM

Hartly must go.
 
Granted, this was a poorly played game. Brees made some bad plays. Henderson dropped two and one big one. Defense couldn't stop Gonzales. After all that the team still forces overtime and the defense and offense do what's needed and sets up a gimme field goal for the win and Hartley chokes. I know it's a team loss, but kickers ,like they say, are a different breed, isolated, loners on the sideline (insert other cliches' here) which is why you don't cut Qb's, recievers, and certain other key players for bad performances , but that doesn't apply to the kicker and I hope he's cut as I type this.

Because after all is said and done this loss is on him.

C17-BING 09-26-2010 04:01 PM

WOW ... Amazing how fast he has gone from "HERO to ZERO ..."

Cory9289 09-26-2010 04:03 PM

1. Hartley won it last week.
2. He got us to OT.

The thing is, kicking is not a definite thing and we've been relying on kicking the past 3 weeks. Sooner or later, you'll miss something.

LBCutta 09-26-2010 04:04 PM

1st of all WHY IN THE WORLD do we kick on 1st down on the 11??????? All Sean Payton's fault right there. 2nd I think teams are figuring out how to defend Brees. Rush up the middle.....stopping him from stepping up in the pocket. We should have definitely won this game. Cut Hartley he's beginning to remind me of Olindo Mare

Crusader 09-26-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satch (Post 249501)
Because after all is said and done this loss is on him.

No. The loss is on the team. The Saints couldn't run the ball, Brees threw 2 picks and one of the was really stupid. Ivory still has fumbling problems and the D couldn't stop anything. This loss was a team effort.

st thomas 09-26-2010 04:04 PM

true and we called the first to why, he's been ready for five minutes during the drive. hartly has a headcase aready, the only way he gets out of it is that we blow out teams. not going to happen yet, bullseye's still coming all season.well maybe next weel carolina.

Halo 09-26-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 249513)
No. The loss is on the team. The Saints couldn't run the ball, Brees threw 2 picks and one of the was really stupid. Ivory still has fumbling problems and the D couldn't stop anything. This loss was a team effort.

BINGO

But somebody did steal his Adderall:)

pherein 09-26-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satch (Post 249501)
Granted, this was a poorly played game. Brees made some bad plays. Henderson dropped two and one big one. Defense couldn't stop Gonzales. After all that the team still forces overtime and the defense and offense do what's needed and sets up a gimme field goal for the win and Hartley chokes. I know it's a team loss, but kickers ,like they say, are a different breed, isolated, loners on the sideline (insert other cliches' here) which is why you don't cut Qb's, recievers, and certain other key players for bad performances , but that doesn't apply to the kicker and I hope he's cut as I type this.

Because after all is said and done this loss is on him.

The fact that you don't know how to spell his name right makes your post suspect, in the least. ITs hartley. Yes he missed an easy shot, and we lost.

|Mitch| 09-26-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 249513)
No. The loss is on the team. The Saints couldn't run the ball, Brees threw 2 picks and one of the was really stupid. Ivory still has fumbling problems and the D couldn't stop anything. This loss was a team effort.

Very well said...

jeanpierre 09-26-2010 04:09 PM

Atlanta had beaten down the line all game and we had a chance to ram a touchdown down their throat and send a message that we are the champs...

And we kick on First down?!? WTF?!?

Who is the Coach, Sean Payton or Jim Mora?!?

Ram the MF down their throat and remind them who's Daddy...

Danno 09-26-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 249524)
Atlanta had beaten down the line all game and we had a chance to ram a touchdown down their throat and send a message that we are the champs...

And we kick on First down?!? WTF?!?

Who is the Coach, Sean Payton or Jim Mora?!?

Ram the MF down their throat and remind them who's Daddy...

Hammer crushing nail head.

I didn't think Hartley misses the kick, but I didn't like that decision one bit. I was hoping for a fake.

pherein 09-26-2010 04:13 PM

I know it pisses me off to, strato, we won that game. It was an easy kick, we just missed. Never throw the baby out with the bathwater. Kid has a leg

st thomas 09-26-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 249524)
Atlanta had beaten down the line all game and we had a chance to ram a touchdown down their throat and send a message that we are the champs...

And we kick on First down?!? WTF?!?

Who is the Coach, Sean Payton or Jim Mora?!?

Ram the MF down their throat and remind them who's Daddy...

LOL agree

pherein 09-26-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 249531)
Hammer crushing nail head.

I didn't think Hartley misses the kick, but I didn't like that decision one bit. I was hoping for a fake.

its any easy kick , he missed it, payton was right to kick.

Euphoria 09-26-2010 04:16 PM

We are the Saints... I think Payton forgot that. 1st down you run the ball and make the other team stop us.

Tomorrow Hartley is looking for a new job.

Danno 09-26-2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 249536)
its any easy kick , he missed it

Of course it is. And so were the one's against Minnesota... and he missed those too.

Don't put the game in the hands of a kicker unless necessary. It was 1st down and we were driving it easily.

pherein 09-26-2010 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 249540)
We are the Saints... I think Payton forgot that. 1st down you run the ball and make the other team stop us.

Tomorrow Hartley is looking for a new job.

wrong only and idiot would allow hartley to go to another team. bet you $1000 N.E. would pick him up.


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