Saints will audition free agent kickers

09-27-2010, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by strato

Hartley hero to zero....lol

Isn't that how it is with kickers..lol

Halo · 09-27-2010, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by KingCutta

Isn't that how it is with kickers..lol

Yep, they are journeymen. The only time I've seen a kicker given the boot who did not deserve it was when the Saints booted Morten Anderson...

But that, children, is a bed-time story for another night... or one we should forget about entirely

winmill1 · 09-27-2010, 09:36 AM

Didn't Stover kick against us in the SB. I am pretty sure that he replaced Vinateri. He wouldn't be bad he kicked for Bal for a long time.

D_it_up · 09-27-2010, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by KingCutta

I wish people would stop bailing Hartley out. Sure, we didnt play well the entire game. But we pulled it together in OT and put our idiot kicker on the 11 yard line for a chipshot and he missed it. THAT IS THE KICKERS FAULT!

Exactly....Perfect snap, perfect hold, and SHAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNK!

foreverfan · 09-27-2010, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by KingCutta

I wish people would stop bailing Hartley out. Sure, we didnt play well the entire game. But we pulled it together in OT and put our idiot kicker on the 11 yard line for a chipshot and he missed it. THAT IS THE KICKERS FAULT!

I'm not bailing Hartley out, but if he'd missed the kick in the 1st quarter and we lost by 2 it wouldn't be as big of a deal.

Hartley screwed up. Another kicker could be worse. Hartley play outstanding last season. I think we bring in Carney and keep 2 kickers again. I don't think the Saints organization is giving up on him.

lumm0x · 09-27-2010, 10:18 AM

Carney is money from 20 and in. Great. Stover isn't much better. Accurate only in tight. Both are too old to have a shot at anything 40+. I'd vote Kris Brown and make Hartley dual him for the job. I'd like to see Garrett stick around if he can get out of this funk and start being a professional.

papz · 09-27-2010, 10:39 AM

I've come to the conclusion that if anything goes wrong, it's Jordan Jefferson's fault.

foreverfan · 09-27-2010, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Carney is money from 20 and in.

Oh yea... remember this?

YouTube - John Carney Missed extra point

foreverfan · 09-27-2010, 11:02 AM

Radio station in New Orleans are stating that Carney will come in as a Kicker coach to help Hartley.
It should be noted that Hartley was 85% last year.

jnormand · 09-27-2010, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by realheavyd

I can't believe that Sean Payton and Garrett Hartley blew this win over Atlanta for our Saints.

First of all, why kick it on 1st down with over 9 minutes left on the OT clock when you could still keep driving toward a TD for a more "in your face" win?

Secondly, Hartley over-thought a simple straight ahead kick and pushed it to the left for the miss! What? Are you freaking kidding me? Put it straight through the damn uprights man! You're in a Dome, for crying out loud! You don't have to compensate for wind or anything!!!

I agree Heavy D, but if Coach P had kept going on the drive and PT fumbled it, then everyone would probably be mad that he didn't just get into field goal range and boot it in instead of trying to make style points.

As far as Hartley goes...I still think he could be the answer for the Saints. I don't know what is going on with him this year but I would like to see him get through it and move forward.

I'm for giving the kid another shot. He had a horrible game 1, was money in game 2 and hit 1 of 2 in game 3. His first being a cold blooded kick from 32 yards out to force OT with 4 ticks left in the game.

If Hartley can't get his act together, then I'm for getting rid of him. But I hope he can get through this.

09-27-2010, 01:42 AM	#21
Threaded by LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by strato Hartley hero to zero....lol Isn't that how it is with kickers..lol
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09-27-2010, 01:46 AM	#22
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,717 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by KingCutta Isn't that how it is with kickers..lol Yep, they are journeymen. The only time I've seen a kicker given the boot who did not deserve it was when the Saints booted Morten Anderson... But that, children, is a bed-time story for another night... or one we should forget about entirely

09-27-2010, 09:36 AM	#23
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Didn't Stover kick against us in the SB. I am pretty sure that he replaced Vinateri. He wouldn't be bad he kicked for Bal for a long time.
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09-27-2010, 09:43 AM	#24
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by KingCutta I wish people would stop bailing Hartley out. Sure, we didnt play well the entire game. But we pulled it together in OT and put our idiot kicker on the 11 yard line for a chipshot and he missed it. THAT IS THE KICKERS FAULT! Exactly....Perfect snap, perfect hold, and SHAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNK!

09-27-2010, 10:07 AM	#25
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by KingCutta I wish people would stop bailing Hartley out. Sure, we didnt play well the entire game. But we pulled it together in OT and put our idiot kicker on the 11 yard line for a chipshot and he missed it. THAT IS THE KICKERS FAULT! I'm not bailing Hartley out, but if he'd missed the kick in the 1st quarter and we lost by 2 it wouldn't be as big of a deal. Hartley screwed up. Another kicker could be worse. Hartley play outstanding last season. I think we bring in Carney and keep 2 kickers again. I don't think the Saints organization is giving up on him.

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09-27-2010, 10:18 AM	#26
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Carney is money from 20 and in. Great. Stover isn't much better. Accurate only in tight. Both are too old to have a shot at anything 40+. I'd vote Kris Brown and make Hartley dual him for the job. I'd like to see Garrett stick around if he can get out of this funk and start being a professional.

09-27-2010, 10:39 AM	#27
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	I've come to the conclusion that if anything goes wrong, it's Jordan Jefferson's fault.

09-27-2010, 11:02 AM	#29
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Radio station in New Orleans are stating that Carney will come in as a Kicker coach to help Hartley. It should be noted that Hartley was 85% last year.

09-27-2010, 12:44 PM	#30
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Originally Posted by realheavyd I can't believe that Sean Payton and Garrett Hartley blew this win over Atlanta for our Saints. First of all, why kick it on 1st down with over 9 minutes left on the OT clock when you could still keep driving toward a TD for a more "in your face" win? Secondly, Hartley over-thought a simple straight ahead kick and pushed it to the left for the miss! What? Are you freaking kidding me? Put it straight through the damn uprights man! You're in a Dome, for crying out loud! You don't have to compensate for wind or anything!!! I agree Heavy D, but if Coach P had kept going on the drive and PT fumbled it, then everyone would probably be mad that he didn't just get into field goal range and boot it in instead of trying to make style points. As far as Hartley goes...I still think he could be the answer for the Saints. I don't know what is going on with him this year but I would like to see him get through it and move forward. I'm for giving the kid another shot. He had a horrible game 1, was money in game 2 and hit 1 of 2 in game 3. His first being a cold blooded kick from 32 yards out to force OT with 4 ticks left in the game. If Hartley can't get his act together, then I'm for getting rid of him. But I hope he can get through this.