Play to win the game....

QBREES9 · 09-26-2010, 10:41 PM

Hell go for it what the worst that could happen the kicker miss the field goal. You Play to score a TD

QBREES9 · 09-26-2010, 10:48 PM

God I love that picture of Selma Strato.

darstep · 09-26-2010, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by cars4dylan

This is what happens when you don't play to win the game.

1st and 10 on the 15 yd line and you run the kicker out, that's playing to not screw up. Taking the ball out of your Pro Bowl QB's hands and wanting to kick is not playing to win, it's worrying that you won't win. I have yet to ever see that mentality or coaching strategy ever serve a team well.

Totally agree. What ever happened to "Finish Strong"? End of 4th quarter they played for the field goal...poor clock management...wasted nearly 60 seconds on that last drive...backed themselves into that field goal corner and Hartley comes through. Overtime they drive all the way down the field then put it in neutral. The crap about the possibility of injury, fumble or an INT was no more possible than on any other play of the drive that got them down there. They had downs and clock to play with. Kick it on third down as your safety net. Even if he had he made the kick, I would still be spent by the raggedy play that's allowing teams to hang around close enough to leave doors/windows of opportunity open for stupid stuff to happen.

QBREES9 · 09-26-2010, 10:53 PM

Did you do the Sig.

mighty12 · 09-26-2010, 11:08 PM

OK, can anyone tell me why Payton didn't try to center it up for the kicker? Does he have THAT much confidence in him?

darstep · 09-26-2010, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

OK, can anyone tell me why Payton didn't try to center it up for the kicker? Does he have THAT much confidence in him?

I'm still trying to figure out what happened to the confidence in the number one offense and Drew Brees.

LBCutta · 09-27-2010, 12:33 AM

None of this we lost as a team **** Hartley misses a 28-29 yard FG. The TEAM put Hartley in a situation for a easy chipshot FG and he didnt pull through. Hartley lost the game!

pherein · 09-27-2010, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by KingCutta

None of this we lost as a team **** Hartley misses a 28-29 yard FG. The TEAM put Hartley in a situation for a easy chipshot FG and he didnt pull through. Hartley lost the game!

Bingo we have a winner. Payton wouldn't kick on 1st down unless its a sure bet.

darstep · 09-27-2010, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Bingo we have a winner. Payton wouldn't kick on 1st down unless its a sure bet.

Its never a sure bet. Our result proves it. You finish strong! They didn't do it in the 4th quarter and they didn't do it in OT. It was a TEAM loss. We take it to heart, avoid pointing fingers, learn from it, win the remaining games convincingly and close the door on luck, bad calls and late game heroics.

cars4dylan · 09-27-2010, 04:14 PM

Pardon my error on the 15 yd line remark, that was based upon my listening to the game on Sirius and that's what they initially said. The timing of the broadcast is always a little off in accuracy and it skews the timeline of things happening a little. I hadn't watched the replay yet but just got to watch the CST Saints Report.

For the record, I never would have *****ed about them going for the TD, like others have written, injuries could happen every single play. You obviously run high percentage plays in that scenario trying to minimize the risk of turnovers. But to me, to go for it on 1st and 2nd and then kick on 3rd just in case would have been THE "IN IT TO WIN IT ATTITUDE!" I would like to have seen the team show.

And by the way, I think I'd rather listen to a CSPAN broadcast for 24 straight hours than listen to those two guys, they drive me friggin' nuts. I just have this overwhelming urge to punch my car stereo when Hokie is speaking!

09-26-2010, 10:50 PM	#3
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Originally Posted by cars4dylan This is what happens when you don't play to win the game. 1st and 10 on the 15 yd line and you run the kicker out, that's playing to not screw up. Taking the ball out of your Pro Bowl QB's hands and wanting to kick is not playing to win, it's worrying that you won't win. I have yet to ever see that mentality or coaching strategy ever serve a team well. Totally agree. What ever happened to "Finish Strong"? End of 4th quarter they played for the field goal...poor clock management...wasted nearly 60 seconds on that last drive...backed themselves into that field goal corner and Hartley comes through. Overtime they drive all the way down the field then put it in neutral. The crap about the possibility of injury, fumble or an INT was no more possible than on any other play of the drive that got them down there. They had downs and clock to play with. Kick it on third down as your safety net. Even if he had he made the kick, I would still be spent by the raggedy play that's allowing teams to hang around close enough to leave doors/windows of opportunity open for stupid stuff to happen.
	SaintSince67

09-26-2010, 11:24 PM	#6
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Originally Posted by mighty12 OK, can anyone tell me why Payton didn't try to center it up for the kicker? Does he have THAT much confidence in him? I'm still trying to figure out what happened to the confidence in the number one offense and Drew Brees.

09-27-2010, 12:37 AM	#8
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by KingCutta None of this we lost as a team **** Hartley misses a 28-29 yard FG. The TEAM put Hartley in a situation for a easy chipshot FG and he didnt pull through. Hartley lost the game! Bingo we have a winner. Payton wouldn't kick on 1st down unless its a sure bet.
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09-27-2010, 12:03 PM	#9
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Originally Posted by pherein Bingo we have a winner. Payton wouldn't kick on 1st down unless its a sure bet. Its never a sure bet. Our result proves it. You finish strong! They didn't do it in the 4th quarter and they didn't do it in OT. It was a TEAM loss. We take it to heart, avoid pointing fingers, learn from it, win the remaining games convincingly and close the door on luck, bad calls and late game heroics.
	Last edited by darstep; 09-27-2010 at 12:50 PM..

09-27-2010, 04:14 PM	#10
cars4dylan 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 106	Pardon my error on the 15 yd line remark, that was based upon my listening to the game on Sirius and that's what they initially said. The timing of the broadcast is always a little off in accuracy and it skews the timeline of things happening a little. I hadn't watched the replay yet but just got to watch the CST Saints Report. For the record, I never would have *****ed about them going for the TD, like others have written, injuries could happen every single play. You obviously run high percentage plays in that scenario trying to minimize the risk of turnovers. But to me, to go for it on 1st and 2nd and then kick on 3rd just in case would have been THE "IN IT TO WIN IT ATTITUDE!" I would like to have seen the team show. And by the way, I think I'd rather listen to a CSPAN broadcast for 24 straight hours than listen to those two guys, they drive me friggin' nuts. I just have this overwhelming urge to punch my car stereo when Hokie is speaking!
cars4dylan 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 106

09-26-2010, 10:41 PM	#1
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Hell go for it what the worst that could happen the kicker miss the field goal. You Play to score a TD

09-26-2010, 10:48 PM	#2
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	God I love that picture of Selma Strato.

09-26-2010, 10:53 PM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Did you do the Sig.

09-26-2010, 11:08 PM	#5
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	OK, can anyone tell me why Payton didn't try to center it up for the kicker? Does he have THAT much confidence in him?

09-27-2010, 12:33 AM	#7
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	None of this we lost as a team **** Hartley misses a 28-29 yard FG. The TEAM put Hartley in a situation for a easy chipshot FG and he didnt pull through. Hartley lost the game!