Payton's Play Calling

Rugby Saint II · 10-01-2010, 12:15 PM

I don't think that we can lay the blame at Paytons feet. I agree that part of the problem is in the execution.

Euphoria · 10-01-2010, 02:10 PM

I love it...

People questioning Payton's play calling... a guy who calls an onside kick to start the second half of the Super Bowl.

He makes these calls because of the way he thinks and his brain is wired. What he sees and believes.

No one complained that faithful night... and now we lose a game and people call his play calling into question.

I have noticed the playing calling and see him running the same plays and running plays to set things up for later. It isn't the play calling it is the execution... and how about the other paid professional who get paid to stop our offense?

I think he gets a free pass to call any damn plays he wants and not be second guess for at least a year. After all how many Coaches we have had that one a Super Bowl with our pathetic team? I can count them on one hand, lol.

ScottF · 10-01-2010, 02:22 PM

What about GW's play-calling? We haven't gotten to anybody yet this year.
That delayed blitz we keep running is driving me crazy--the end result has been 3 LB's flat-footed at the line of scrimmage

Danno · 10-01-2010, 03:05 PM

Drop passes aren't play calling.
Missed blocks aren't play calling.
O-line getting dominated isn't play calling.
I'll advised passes for picks aren't play calling.

SaintFanQ · 10-01-2010, 04:51 PM

It's still very early in the season to start finger pointing.

Let's see how the next few games go which, according to the media, are "supposed" to be easier for us. I don't actually think there is such a thing as an "easier" game in the NFL. Especially when you are defending champions. But we will see. Hopefully things will click into place on both sides of the ball and we will see the team back on track.

Geaux Saints!

st thomas · 10-01-2010, 05:02 PM

we will get through this. its just not clickiin yet, were 2-1 and will be 3-1 by monday.

DblBogey · 10-01-2010, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I love it...

People questioning Payton's play calling... a guy who calls an onside kick to start the second half of the Super Bowl.

He makes these calls because of the way he thinks and his brain is wired. What he sees and believes.

No one complained that faithful night... and now we lose a game and people call his play calling into question.

I have noticed the playing calling and see him running the same plays and running plays to set things up for later. It isn't the play calling it is the execution... and how about the other paid professional who get paid to stop our offense?

I think he gets a free pass to call any damn plays he wants and not be second guess for at least a year. After all how many Coaches we have had that one a Super Bowl with our pathetic team? I can count them on one hand, lol.

Euphoria don't misunderstand what I am saying . . . I am not questioning Payton. I said "This year it seems the play calling is conservative compared to last year. It is like our plays are predictable, as if they know what play is coming next. I think Payton needs to go back to the "leave it all on the field' attitude. Do completely opposite of what the defenses are expecting. Put the element of surprise back in our offense. It is just what I am seeing, IMHO!

rich006 · 10-01-2010, 07:46 PM

As a couple of people have said, the play calling is not the problem. It only takes a couple of plays to make the difference between winning and losing, and the difference so far this year has been a few plays made or not made.

The problem is not the play calling, it's the EXECUTION.

Euphoria · 10-01-2010, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by rich006

As a couple of people have said, the play calling is not the problem. It only takes a couple of plays to make the difference between winning and losing, and the difference so far this year has been a few plays made or not made.

The problem is not the play calling, it's the EXECUTION.

EXACTLY. I don't know what games yall are watching but when your WR's drop the ball or your QB misses a throw and gets INT. That is all execution.

I feel like Bree's needs to stop doing interviews on 60 minutes and get to the practice field.

lumm0x · 10-01-2010, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Drop passes aren't play calling.
Missed blocks aren't play calling.
O-line getting dominated isn't play calling.
I'll advised passes for picks aren't play calling.

Bingo

10-01-2010, 02:10 PM	#12
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I love it... People questioning Payton's play calling... a guy who calls an onside kick to start the second half of the Super Bowl. He makes these calls because of the way he thinks and his brain is wired. What he sees and believes. No one complained that faithful night... and now we lose a game and people call his play calling into question. I have noticed the playing calling and see him running the same plays and running plays to set things up for later. It isn't the play calling it is the execution... and how about the other paid professional who get paid to stop our offense? I think he gets a free pass to call any damn plays he wants and not be second guess for at least a year. After all how many Coaches we have had that one a Super Bowl with our pathetic team? I can count them on one hand, lol.
	E U P H O R I A

10-01-2010, 05:12 PM	#17
DblBogey 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 538	Originally Posted by Euphoria I love it... People questioning Payton's play calling... a guy who calls an onside kick to start the second half of the Super Bowl. He makes these calls because of the way he thinks and his brain is wired. What he sees and believes. No one complained that faithful night... and now we lose a game and people call his play calling into question. I have noticed the playing calling and see him running the same plays and running plays to set things up for later. It isn't the play calling it is the execution... and how about the other paid professional who get paid to stop our offense? I think he gets a free pass to call any damn plays he wants and not be second guess for at least a year. After all how many Coaches we have had that one a Super Bowl with our pathetic team? I can count them on one hand, lol. Euphoria don't misunderstand what I am saying . . . I am not questioning Payton. I said "This year it seems the play calling is conservative compared to last year. It is like our plays are predictable, as if they know what play is coming next. I think Payton needs to go back to the "leave it all on the field' attitude. Do completely opposite of what the defenses are expecting. Put the element of surprise back in our offense. It is just what I am seeing, IMHO!
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10-01-2010, 07:46 PM	#18
rich006 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 335	As a couple of people have said, the play calling is not the problem. It only takes a couple of plays to make the difference between winning and losing, and the difference so far this year has been a few plays made or not made. The problem is not the play calling, it's the EXECUTION.
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10-01-2010, 09:07 PM	#19
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by rich006 As a couple of people have said, the play calling is not the problem. It only takes a couple of plays to make the difference between winning and losing, and the difference so far this year has been a few plays made or not made. The problem is not the play calling, it's the EXECUTION. EXACTLY. I don't know what games yall are watching but when your WR's drop the ball or your QB misses a throw and gets INT. That is all execution. I feel like Bree's needs to stop doing interviews on 60 minutes and get to the practice field.

10-01-2010, 11:59 PM	#20
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Originally Posted by Danno Drop passes aren't play calling. Missed blocks aren't play calling. O-line getting dominated isn't play calling. I'll advised passes for picks aren't play calling. Bingo

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,250	I don't think that we can lay the blame at Paytons feet. I agree that part of the problem is in the execution.

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10-01-2010, 02:22 PM	#13
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	What about GW's play-calling? We haven't gotten to anybody yet this year. That delayed blitz we keep running is driving me crazy--the end result has been 3 LB's flat-footed at the line of scrimmage

10-01-2010, 03:05 PM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Drop passes aren't play calling. Missed blocks aren't play calling. O-line getting dominated isn't play calling. I'll advised passes for picks aren't play calling.

10-01-2010, 04:51 PM	#15
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 802	It's still very early in the season to start finger pointing. Let's see how the next few games go which, according to the media, are "supposed" to be easier for us. I don't actually think there is such a thing as an "easier" game in the NFL. Especially when you are defending champions. But we will see. Hopefully things will click into place on both sides of the ball and we will see the team back on track. Geaux Saints!

10-01-2010, 05:02 PM	#16
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	we will get through this. its just not clickiin yet, were 2-1 and will be 3-1 by monday.