The question no one wants to ask.....

Rugby Saint II · 10-20-2010, 06:14 PM

Sean Payton would most likely start PT and give Ivory the clean up yardage. If we could put all of theses guys on the field in the same game it would get ugly for the D coordinator. My guess is that Betts is the odd man out if we carry four backs when everyone gets healthy.

SaintFanQ · 10-20-2010, 06:22 PM

Wow! This is a tough call, especially after Ivory played so well in his last game, but as PT is tried and tested and has always done a good job for the Saints then I guess I would go for PT. I do like Ivory as well though and I think he will become a great player for our team.

GEAUX SAINTS!

dasaints26 · 10-20-2010, 06:36 PM

After one good game against a team we were up big on I dont think Ivory is moving up the depth chart from 4th to 1st.

I'm a big PT fan but I wanted to look at the numbers to see just how great Ivory has played in his one game.

PT our #1 rb has averaged 4.9 yards since 07. Of course that is over 374 attempts not a good comparision to Ivory's 44 attempts. No defensive coordinator would be scared about the leading rusher on the number one offense in the league the last couple years.

One number is similiar between the 2 rbs. PT has 374 attempts and has 3 fumbles. Ivory has 44 attempts and has 3 fumbles. I guess they are interchangeable.

I like Ivory but after one game I dont think he is goin to replace our other undrafted rb that has fought his way up the depthchart. PT is a tough runner and after lookin at that hit he took I was hopin he wouldnt be out all year.

504state · 10-21-2010, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

How about this question...

Since many blamed our offensive struggles on Bush's absence, does Ivory's play and putting up 31 points prove that Bush's absence was NOT the reason our offense struggled?

I agree with this. Reggie being hurt is surely nothing new. We performed our offense performed fine without him the last 4 years when he went down so I dont think that all of a sudden this year we simply forgot how to play without him. IN fact there was a point that we were winning more games with him injured than when he was in the line up. NOt that that means anything really. There were multiple reasons for our offense spuddering, and if you think back the offensive woes were going on way back in training camp.

TopCow · 10-21-2010, 01:56 AM

We have three world class running backs. Reggie, Pierre. Chris. Each has merited playing time and each will get playing time. And each will get hurt from time to time. We have a great situation going. GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

jcp026 · 10-21-2010, 10:06 AM

There are enough carries to go around, especially if we're running out the clock.

UK_WhoDat · 10-23-2010, 03:15 PM

PT is brilliant. But I say go with the guy in form, CI. And use PT later in the game to really mess up defences.

Danno · 10-24-2010, 09:33 AM

Until Ivory can prove he doesn't fumble, and prove he has pass protections and route running mastered, and prove he can stay healthy, I gotta go with PT.

Ivory has potential that's off the charts, but Pierre Thomas is light years ahead of him right now.

Boutte · 10-24-2010, 11:53 AM

I think PT would have burned TB had he played last week. Their run D is awful. I don't mean to take anything away from Ivory, he was awesome.

But PT is the epitome of professionalism. He gets the max out of every play and does everything well. He also runs the screen as well as anybody I've EVER seen. To answer the question I say use Ivory the way we used Bell last year. He's a better back than Bell will ever be.

TheOak · 10-25-2010, 07:59 AM

Ivoy looked great again yesterday. His numbers got screwed by an awful O-Line performance. He was getting stuffed in the backfield (I believe that was a 10 yard loss) before he had a change to even tuck the ball, and his best run of 20+ yards was called back because of a holding penalty by Evans (Hook).

In my opinion he averaged 5.5 YPC last night. No fumbles.

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10-20-2010, 06:36 PM	#43
dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167	After one good game against a team we were up big on I dont think Ivory is moving up the depth chart from 4th to 1st. I'm a big PT fan but I wanted to look at the numbers to see just how great Ivory has played in his one game. PT our #1 rb has averaged 4.9 yards since 07. Of course that is over 374 attempts not a good comparision to Ivory's 44 attempts. No defensive coordinator would be scared about the leading rusher on the number one offense in the league the last couple years. One number is similiar between the 2 rbs. PT has 374 attempts and has 3 fumbles. Ivory has 44 attempts and has 3 fumbles. I guess they are interchangeable. I like Ivory but after one game I dont think he is goin to replace our other undrafted rb that has fought his way up the depthchart. PT is a tough runner and after lookin at that hit he took I was hopin he wouldnt be out all year.
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10-21-2010, 12:38 AM	#44
504state Banned Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 252	Originally Posted by Danno How about this question... Since many blamed our offensive struggles on Bush's absence, does Ivory's play and putting up 31 points prove that Bush's absence was NOT the reason our offense struggled? I agree with this. Reggie being hurt is surely nothing new. We performed our offense performed fine without him the last 4 years when he went down so I dont think that all of a sudden this year we simply forgot how to play without him. IN fact there was a point that we were winning more games with him injured than when he was in the line up. NOt that that means anything really. There were multiple reasons for our offense spuddering, and if you think back the offensive woes were going on way back in training camp.
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10-21-2010, 01:56 AM	#45
TopCow 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 299	We have three world class running backs. Reggie, Pierre. Chris. Each has merited playing time and each will get playing time. And each will get hurt from time to time. We have a great situation going. GEAUX SAINTS!!!!
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10-21-2010, 10:06 AM	#46
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	There are enough carries to go around, especially if we're running out the clock.
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10-20-2010, 06:14 PM	#41
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Sean Payton would most likely start PT and give Ivory the clean up yardage. If we could put all of theses guys on the field in the same game it would get ugly for the D coordinator. My guess is that Betts is the odd man out if we carry four backs when everyone gets healthy.

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10-20-2010, 06:22 PM	#42
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 797	Wow! This is a tough call, especially after Ivory played so well in his last game, but as PT is tried and tested and has always done a good job for the Saints then I guess I would go for PT. I do like Ivory as well though and I think he will become a great player for our team. GEAUX SAINTS!

10-23-2010, 03:15 PM	#47
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	PT is brilliant. But I say go with the guy in form, CI. And use PT later in the game to really mess up defences.

10-24-2010, 09:33 AM	#48
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Until Ivory can prove he doesn't fumble, and prove he has pass protections and route running mastered, and prove he can stay healthy, I gotta go with PT. Ivory has potential that's off the charts, but Pierre Thomas is light years ahead of him right now.

10-24-2010, 11:53 AM	#49
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	I think PT would have burned TB had he played last week. Their run D is awful. I don't mean to take anything away from Ivory, he was awesome. But PT is the epitome of professionalism. He gets the max out of every play and does everything well. He also runs the screen as well as anybody I've EVER seen. To answer the question I say use Ivory the way we used Bell last year. He's a better back than Bell will ever be.

10-25-2010, 07:59 AM	#50
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Ivoy looked great again yesterday. His numbers got screwed by an awful O-Line performance. He was getting stuffed in the backfield (I believe that was a 10 yard loss) before he had a change to even tuck the ball, and his best run of 20+ yards was called back because of a holding penalty by Evans (Hook). In my opinion he averaged 5.5 YPC last night. No fumbles.

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