Brees on the Bench
 

I like to ask the controversial questions. Ill ask another.

Should Brees have been benched against the Browns.

Before you go hiring a hit man to find me..... I am not saying he should have been benched for his play this season, or in the Browns game. I am saying he should have never taken a snap in the Browns game.

I do not know Brees personally, all I know is what I read and hear like most of us. I know from what I have read and heard him say he takes a lot of pride in being a good father. That being said, I expect he has had about 2-3 hours sleep a night since the birth of his son. As any father would have had in the last 4-5 days.

If he were well rested yesterday I would have had to question his participation in his new born child for the last 4 days.

He is also a Champion and not one to say no. Payton should have benched him so he could take a 4 hour nap and get back to his wife and new born. Let Chase Daniel handle the Browns.

I am a dedicated and loyal Saints fan to the core. However that child comes first as it should, and i suspect the lack of rest is why Drew preformed so badly. Bad judgment, under thrown passes, look of frustration, all the tell tale signs of tired.

Maybe he should retire.

Kyle Orton was down by a bazillion and kept going back out there. If Payton would've pulled Brees, he probably would be asking for a trade today, IMO.

Edit- Sorry, I went back and read again, and you were asking if he should've sat out the game because of a baby. No. Favre played after his dad died.

As angry as i was with his lackluster performance yesterday, hes still the SB MVP and the guy we look to for answers, so i gotta say no to benching him. HOWEVER.....coach payton needs to do something big to shake this team up, because i don't like where we are going. I'm not a bandwagon fan by any means, but at this rate i don't need us getting any better than an 8-8 season unless we go out next week and keep the Steelers on their back heels all game and show them why we are the defending champs, even if we manage to lose to two rookie QB's that get their first career wins against us :mad:
Coach payton does not seem as aggressive this year and that really bugs me, drew was throwing ill advised passes trying to get something going. I don't blame him for trying to get a spark going, but even in 2008 when we had no running game and no defense, he still had better games than that yesterday.

Nope... People are missing the point. If you have children than you know what is like the first week. Mom is still recovering, baby is up every 4 hours to feed, family and friends are visiting and calling to find out information.... It is probably more of a physical stress than a mental stress.
Sleep and naps that first week can be few and far in between. We use a 5 hour flight to an away game as a reason players are tired and road games are difficult. Multiply that by 10X and you have the first week with a new born. Even if you have help or a nanny, a new parent does not sleep worrying and checking on the baby.

I can defend my decision with out smart assed comments. As I stated, my vote and question has nothing to do with his performance this season. If we were 7-0 I would have still benched him because I know his azz would have been worn out from the week.

Nope...don't buy that. I've had 4 kids and the only thing that kept me up was the crying. I do worry about my kids when I have a reason to...but unless I'm mistaken, the baby is fine.

I would think that Drew has a big enough house to find a quiet bedroom, and I know he has enough money to hire help...so I personally don't see how you can use that as an excuse.

No. But it seemed like the entire offensive line was in the delivery room also

From what I have read about his character. He is not one to run to a quiet part of the house. He is one to be right next to the crib, hands on. I have two daughters, 5 and 2, I had children later in life at 37 yo. I was there every minute I was not physically at work.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The fact of the matter is that he looked tired, preformed like he was tired both physically and mentally. I do believe he set his career high for interceptions (he has never thrown 4 interceptions in a single game before), and had one the worst games I have ever seen him have. There is a reason, and I doubt it was because the grocery store was out of his favorite cereal. Just sayin....

I agree with you 100% on that one.

However he threw a Career high 4 interceptions, none of which If I recall correctly can be attributed to receivers playing "tip drill" lol.

This. This reminded me of the AZ game where the oline got sissy whipped. Drew was running around the entire game and in the NFL, if you get to the QB you win the game.

The four INTs: on one Betts runs an out instead of an in. Another was a deep throw "punt" at the end of the first half. Another was a tip at the line then the ball bounced off a Saints players back and back into the hands of a Brown.

The last one was just him pressing.

The pass doesn't have to be tipped to be attributed to the lack of protections from the O line.

Count to two and there's Carlos Rodgers in YOUR face... :help:

I think SP was sending the message by leaving him in instead of taking him out, basically saying "You got us in this hole, you get us out"

another thought is that he STILL was our best chance to get back in the game

Yes, he should have been have benched - in the 4th quarter when the game was clearly over and it was garbage time.

What if he had been injured on that last meaningless drive? We would be calling for Payton's head today.

Nope. Sorry, but have to disagree. This is a rhythm offense and Brees a rhythm QB. They needed to create something positive from this game and benching your star QB wasn't necessary bc with Brees in we always have a chance.

I also noticed Fujita was all in our face... Maybe we should make some minor adjustments to last Years offense? LOL

I agree wit that.... Would rather take a sack than an interception though...

Sean Payton is not being as creative without Reggie Bush.

Fujita being all in our grill is a testament that creativity ended in SB44.

He had the best game he has had since 2008 and the second best game practically of his career!
Scott Fujita: Game Logs

Okay, INT #1 - did Betts turn the wrong way or did Brees throw the wrong way?

INT #2 - Brees caught and trying to throw to Devery but the lineman made a circus grab (6pts)

INT #3 - Brees doesn't see the lineman drop back the slide over, throws it right to him (6pts)

INT #4 - All Brees, trying to force too much.

I'm talking offense here. That's where all the turnovers are coming from, at least....

And look, Cleveland came in and played a great, mistake free game - they pulled out all the tricks they could to win and the Saints played their worst. Perfect storm.

I don't want to hear anything else about Colt McCoy's big win... No QB who throws for 9 completions and less than 74 yards should be given credit for anything other than NOT screwing up well.

Good thing they Missed two interception opportunities in the first quarter they should have had.

Well maybe those wouldn't have turned into pick 6

ROFLMAO..... Isnt that the truth! The pets of the talking heads will give Kudos to one of their favorite QB's, after a loss for a good game. Frikken Romo is still being called one of the Elite QB's.

I agree with this...

You obviously did not READ what was under the poll... and just chose to rant.

I am rubber, you are glue..... Jeese, ROFLMAO

At least you laughed.

I didn't play yesterday. Don't take it out on me.

I think some Saints fans have a little Super Bowl hangover them selves. Yesterday may have cleared their vision and they are now realizing we can not win this year based on what we did last year. I cringe when I hear an announcer call us the Super Bowl Champs.... He is right but this is a new season. Everything started over.

I guess I'm old school. Mop-up duty is for bench players, and that last drive was more meaningless than a preseason TD.

I agree.... Some games however leave me with a need to vent. Bad play happens, but the stupid-sh1t wears on my nerves. There was a lot of that yesterday ...

I totally agree that Brees isn't playing up to snuff this year, but I'm a little tired of people thinking Breese did it all last year, and it entirely responsible for all our problems this year.

Receivers have to get open, then catch the ball, linemen need to keep them off, the D needs to stop people, needs to be ready for trick plays, the coach needs to ready them for trick plays. Hell 14 of those points were from trick plays, that no-one had prepared for. Where was the guy that watches for some odd guy 40 yards away from the center of attention on the ball?

No, it wasn't just Breese, and when you start benching your starter, then you open up a can of psychological worms.

I might've played the whole second team on that last drive, as it was really hopeless. Might as well let them have a go, just to get some game experience.

Should Brees have been benched? No. Should we let our backup get some experience? Possibly. If Brees keeps getting hit as often as he is then an injury is much more likely. I don't believe that the face of our franchise needs to be sent a message. Instead he and Payton need to get down to business and make the adjustments necessary to get us back in sync.

i said yes only because the game was done and not to risk season ending injury to still one of the best qbs in the nfl. period its still a long season and we are nowhere done.

"Mop-up duty" to me means we're up by 30 points.

What happened Sunday vs the Browns was more like "You better find a way to right the ship in times of despair".

Damn right I leave my QB in.

I refuse to vote in this poll. You don't bench players of Drew's caliber. Benching is meant to send a message. I'm quite certain Drew is aware of how he played. You don't bench a Brady, a Brees, or a P. Manning.

You just do not do that.

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This.
It would send the wrong message.

I'm for giving Chase some time. Perfect opportunity to give the guy some experience when the game is all but over and the way things are going with the O line Brees isn't going to make it through the season unscathed at this pace.

Yeah not really sure about that ....... NO !!!

The entire offense needs to wake up. Receivers aren't getting separation, Meachem quit on 2 routes yesterday. David Thomas missed a couple of blocks one resulting in a sack. Defense is playing pretty darn well right now and the offense isn't holding up their end. OL needs to man up.

...i have no idea what catastrophic damage to the universe i would cause when i spontaneously imploded if that were to happen...bad things.