What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle?

Saint2 · 10-28-2002, 07:40 PM

I just heard Haz wasn't that concerned with holding call on Duece's run but his major complait in his press conference was about the Zebra's not calling penalties because the Falcons had 12 or 13 men in or around the huddle. What? That's terrible, What an unfair advantage. That's why the made the rule. SO INFORCE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
STUPID REFS, WHO NEEDS THEM?
[Edited on 29/10/2002 by Saint2]

[Edited on 29/10/2002 by Saint2]

SaintStoneyMount · 10-29-2002, 05:42 PM

The refs are like the wind and rain. You can\'t play the game and worry about calls. Gatorman is right. The refs didn\'t cost us that game. Mistakes cost us that game. I am a big Aaron Brooks fan but my man threw up two costly interceptions when he should have just ate the ball, took the sacks and reset. Deuce is great but in a tight game like that you can not put the ball on the ground. Most of all where is our DEFENSE. Not just against Atlanta, but all season. The refs we can\'t control. The rest is up to the Saints. Fix the rest and forget the refs and let\'s get on with this great season.

JOESAM2002 · 10-29-2002, 08:20 PM

Again I have to agree with you SSM. The refs didn\'t cost us the game. Turn overs and mistakes did. I do however look for changes in the defense after the bye week. Haz i\'m sure is not very happy with the defense. I believe there will be drastic changes. I\'m not real sure what but Haz being a former linebacker, you tell me if he\'s going to make changes. I\'m not even sure Dale Carter is the answer to all the problems,I think he will help but I think you have to get better production from the guys that are playing now.
Use Charlie Clemons at what he does best,rushing the qb. He\'s just not getting the job done inside,probably not his fault because they demand so much from him.He never knows what his jobs is because they use him so many ways.The Heavy Lunch Bunch has to stay healthy. They have had to many nagging injuries. Not bad ones but bad enough to not be 100%. Thank God for Sammy Knight and Jay Bellamy. These guys produce week in and week out. They are the strength of this entire defense.

GO SAINTS!

[Edited on 30/10/2002 by JOESAM2002]

SaintStoneyMount · 10-30-2002, 01:10 PM

You better believe there will be changes. Haz won\'t have it any other way. I\'m sure he won\'t allow the defense to continue to be the achilles heel. Maybe Charlie needs to play outside. Darin Smith can hold the inside down for now. As far as next year we need to bring in some LB\'s to sure up that position.

BigAlSandman · 10-30-2002, 03:59 PM

We all just need to pull for THE team, the New Orleans Saints. Mistakes or no mistakes, we are on our way to San Diego. I am sure after a week off, injuries will be healed and errors will be corrected. We all have to keep positive!!! GO SAINTS!!!

Saint2 · 10-30-2002, 07:21 PM

Ok, Enough with the defense bashing. I know they have given up some yardage and points lately, but look who\'s missing or not 100 percent. Also, If I remember correctly, it was the defense that kept us in the earlier games that could have got ugly early(ei,20 point deficites) if not for the defense holding the opposition to field goals when Aaron or was throwing some stupid INTs or watching the center snap the ball past him or fumbles and giving the opponents good field position. What if the scores in those games would have been 35 or 31 to nothing? I think considering who they have played the last 2 weeks they have played tough. After all which would you prefer This Team or Mora\'s Team that had a top 5 ranked defense with a conservative offense that lost lots of games at the end even with a great defense?
Ok, I\'m finished with this and hope to enjoy the rest of the season and The SAINTS WIN at least 6 of the last 8 (Hopefully all 8 considering their records don\'t compare to the records of the teams they just played) and they\'ll be 12 & 4 and Win Home Field througout.

JOESAM2002 · 10-30-2002, 07:52 PM

Who\'s bashing? If we can\'t discuss our team among ourselves then we\'re not much as fans. You\'ll never find anyone more for the Saints than me.And seeing as i\'ve been a fan since 1967 it would be hard for anyone to say they have been a fan longer than I have. I love this team but I hope i can always discuss them with other fans at any length I choose. We as fans want the best for this team and no matter what anyone else says, we have the right to do this. If you don\'t want to participate, just read and say what you have to say.

P.S. sorry, but I get a little bristled when someone says i\'m bashing the Saints.

[Edited on 31/10/2002 by JOESAM2002]

JOESAM2002 · 10-30-2002, 09:59 PM

Cool beans guys, I can take a hit, at least that\'s what my ex-wife said. Anyone that knows me personally, knows i bleed Black and Gold. Hurt my daughters feelings when she brought her prospective husband to meet me, I wouldn\'t let him in my house. He had on a Dallas Cowboys cap. I told him he could come in but the hat stays outside. The Saints defense will come around, injuries have hurt them badly. I just think we need some help. I wish I had ya\'lls confidence in the return of Dale Carter, but I\'ll have to wait and see. Tag is a giant pain in the lower extremities. GO SAINTS

[Edited on 31/10/2002 by JOESAM2002]

Saint2 · 10-30-2002, 10:49 PM

No Problem, Ya wanna be a hard core Saints Fan. Try here in Lafayette. You gotta contend with all the band wagon jumpers and the two timers (The guys that have two teams so when the Saints start loosing they have a backup team). Then there are the guys that won\'t say a word till the Saints lose. Then they\'re all over you like white on rice. Any way I wasn\'t calling anyone a basher. Like gatorman said I am tired of hearing the bashing.

SaintStoneyMount · 10-30-2002, 10:50 PM

JOESAM you da man. Didn\'t let him in with the cowboys hat. Cool. I coach an under 10 soccer team and I don\'t let my players practice in Atlanta Jerseys. I know where you coming from man. To all the above...we wouldn\'t get so heated about the defense if we didn\'t care deeply about the team. You are all true fans cause you actually take time out to discuss the Saints on this board everyday. This season has been great so far. It\'s going to get a lot better. 13-3 at least. 12-4 at worst Ya heard it here. Saints all the way baby.

San Diego Deep
SSM

10-28-2002, 07:40 PM	#1
Saint2 Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 44	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? I just heard Haz wasn't that concerned with holding call on Duece's run but his major complait in his press conference was about the Zebra's not calling penalties because the Falcons had 12 or 13 men in or around the huddle. What? That's terrible, What an unfair advantage. That's why the made the rule. SO INFORCE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: STUPID REFS, WHO NEEDS THEM? [Edited on 29/10/2002 by Saint2] [Edited on 29/10/2002 by Saint2]
Saint2 Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 44

10-29-2002, 05:42 PM	#2
SaintStoneyMount 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 448	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? The refs are like the wind and rain. You can\'t play the game and worry about calls. Gatorman is right. The refs didn\'t cost us that game. Mistakes cost us that game. I am a big Aaron Brooks fan but my man threw up two costly interceptions when he should have just ate the ball, took the sacks and reset. Deuce is great but in a tight game like that you can not put the ball on the ground. Most of all where is our DEFENSE. Not just against Atlanta, but all season. The refs we can\'t control. The rest is up to the Saints. Fix the rest and forget the refs and let\'s get on with this great season.
	SaintStoneyMountLurksNoMore \"Bless U Boyz\" \"Geaux Saints\" \"Geaux Tigers\"

10-29-2002, 08:20 PM	#3
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? Again I have to agree with you SSM. The refs didn\'t cost us the game. Turn overs and mistakes did. I do however look for changes in the defense after the bye week. Haz i\'m sure is not very happy with the defense. I believe there will be drastic changes. I\'m not real sure what but Haz being a former linebacker, you tell me if he\'s going to make changes. I\'m not even sure Dale Carter is the answer to all the problems,I think he will help but I think you have to get better production from the guys that are playing now. Use Charlie Clemons at what he does best,rushing the qb. He\'s just not getting the job done inside,probably not his fault because they demand so much from him.He never knows what his jobs is because they use him so many ways.The Heavy Lunch Bunch has to stay healthy. They have had to many nagging injuries. Not bad ones but bad enough to not be 100%. Thank God for Sammy Knight and Jay Bellamy. These guys produce week in and week out. They are the strength of this entire defense. GO SAINTS! [Edited on 30/10/2002 by JOESAM2002]
	Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt!!!!! "Every time you think, you weaken the nation!" Moe Howard...The Three Stooges.

10-30-2002, 01:10 PM	#4
SaintStoneyMount 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 448	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? You better believe there will be changes. Haz won\'t have it any other way. I\'m sure he won\'t allow the defense to continue to be the achilles heel. Maybe Charlie needs to play outside. Darin Smith can hold the inside down for now. As far as next year we need to bring in some LB\'s to sure up that position.

10-30-2002, 03:59 PM	#5
BigAlSandman Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? We all just need to pull for THE team, the New Orleans Saints. Mistakes or no mistakes, we are on our way to San Diego. I am sure after a week off, injuries will be healed and errors will be corrected. We all have to keep positive!!! GO SAINTS!!!
BigAlSandman Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2

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10-30-2002, 07:21 PM	#6
Saint2 Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 44	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? Ok, Enough with the defense bashing. I know they have given up some yardage and points lately, but look who\'s missing or not 100 percent. Also, If I remember correctly, it was the defense that kept us in the earlier games that could have got ugly early(ei,20 point deficites) if not for the defense holding the opposition to field goals when Aaron or was throwing some stupid INTs or watching the center snap the ball past him or fumbles and giving the opponents good field position. What if the scores in those games would have been 35 or 31 to nothing? I think considering who they have played the last 2 weeks they have played tough. After all which would you prefer This Team or Mora\'s Team that had a top 5 ranked defense with a conservative offense that lost lots of games at the end even with a great defense? Ok, I\'m finished with this and hope to enjoy the rest of the season and The SAINTS WIN at least 6 of the last 8 (Hopefully all 8 considering their records don\'t compare to the records of the teams they just played) and they\'ll be 12 & 4 and Win Home Field througout.
Saint2 Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 44

10-30-2002, 07:52 PM	#7
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? Who\'s bashing? If we can\'t discuss our team among ourselves then we\'re not much as fans. You\'ll never find anyone more for the Saints than me.And seeing as i\'ve been a fan since 1967 it would be hard for anyone to say they have been a fan longer than I have. I love this team but I hope i can always discuss them with other fans at any length I choose. We as fans want the best for this team and no matter what anyone else says, we have the right to do this. If you don\'t want to participate, just read and say what you have to say. P.S. sorry, but I get a little bristled when someone says i\'m bashing the Saints. [Edited on 31/10/2002 by JOESAM2002]
	Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt!!!!! "Every time you think, you weaken the nation!" Moe Howard...The Three Stooges.

10-30-2002, 09:59 PM	#8
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? Cool beans guys, I can take a hit, at least that\'s what my ex-wife said. Anyone that knows me personally, knows i bleed Black and Gold. Hurt my daughters feelings when she brought her prospective husband to meet me, I wouldn\'t let him in my house. He had on a Dallas Cowboys cap. I told him he could come in but the hat stays outside. The Saints defense will come around, injuries have hurt them badly. I just think we need some help. I wish I had ya\'lls confidence in the return of Dale Carter, but I\'ll have to wait and see. Tag is a giant pain in the lower extremities. GO SAINTS [Edited on 31/10/2002 by JOESAM2002]
	Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt!!!!! "Every time you think, you weaken the nation!" Moe Howard...The Three Stooges.

10-30-2002, 10:49 PM	#9
Saint2 Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 44	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? No Problem, Ya wanna be a hard core Saints Fan. Try here in Lafayette. You gotta contend with all the band wagon jumpers and the two timers (The guys that have two teams so when the Saints start loosing they have a backup team). Then there are the guys that won\'t say a word till the Saints lose. Then they\'re all over you like white on rice. Any way I wasn\'t calling anyone a basher. Like gatorman said I am tired of hearing the bashing.
Saint2 Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 44

10-30-2002, 10:50 PM	#10
SaintStoneyMount 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 448	What's This 12 men in or around the Falcons Huddle? JOESAM you da man. Didn\'t let him in with the cowboys hat. Cool. I coach an under 10 soccer team and I don\'t let my players practice in Atlanta Jerseys. I know where you coming from man. To all the above...we wouldn\'t get so heated about the defense if we didn\'t care deeply about the team. You are all true fans cause you actually take time out to discuss the Saints on this board everyday. This season has been great so far. It\'s going to get a lot better. 13-3 at least. 12-4 at worst Ya heard it here. Saints all the way baby. San Diego Deep SSM
	SaintStoneyMountLurksNoMore \"Bless U Boyz\" \"Geaux Saints\" \"Geaux Tigers\"