Playoff scenario???

SaintPauly · 11-23-2010, 02:22 PM

Ok, one of the radio announcers for the game Sunday, made the statement, that "even if the Saints win out every game, the rest of the season, UNLESS Atlanta loses to an NFC opponent, the best we can hope for is a wild card." Is this true? Could someone explain it a little more detailed for me?

Atlanta has Green Bay this weekend, and then at Tampa.... The division could come down, to the Monday night game in Atlanta. I think I might make the drive... WHO'S WITH ME???

exile · 11-23-2010, 03:28 PM

It is way too early to do those calculations. But right now Atlanta has record, matchup, division and conf record leads over the Saints. Besides that...

Beastmode · 11-23-2010, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Ok, one of the radio announcers for the game Sunday, made the statement, that "even if the Saints win out every game, the rest of the season, UNLESS Atlanta loses to an NFC opponent, the best we can hope for is a wild card." Is this true? Could someone explain it a little more detailed for me?

Atlanta has Green Bay this weekend, and then at Tampa.... The division could come down, to the Monday night game in Atlanta. I think I might make the drive... WHO'S WITH ME???

Atlanta has all NFC teams the rest of the way but only two of those teams have a good chance of beating them; Saints and Green Bay. Green Bay has to win. That game is the key for the Saints. If Green Bay loses we are looking at a wild card no matter what the Saints do.

SaintFanQ · 11-23-2010, 04:15 PM

Wow! What a difference to last season. We were 10-0 this time last year I think?

Now we are hoping we can get a wildcard spot.

7-3 is still good though.

Its strange how things pan out in the league. We beat the Seahawks and I think I am right in saying that after that game they were 5-5 and STILL topped their division?

WHO DAT!

AsylumGuido · 11-23-2010, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Ok, one of the radio announcers for the game Sunday, made the statement, that "even if the Saints win out every game, the rest of the season, UNLESS Atlanta loses to an NFC opponent, the best we can hope for is a wild card." Is this true? Could someone explain it a little more detailed for me?

Atlanta has Green Bay this weekend, and then at Tampa.... The division could come down, to the Monday night game in Atlanta. I think I might make the drive... WHO'S WITH ME???

I wouldn't put it past Seattle beating the Falturds at Seattle. And they also have the game left against Tampa Bay.

lynwood · 11-23-2010, 05:28 PM

I remember back in the day pulling some 13-3 or 12-4 win season only to have San Fran win the division and not getting a wildcard. This might be one of those seasons where we can win out and still not get in with a 13-3 record. Need to get prepared for that.

Beastmode · 11-23-2010, 05:32 PM

Feel free to correct me but this is one scenario how the Saints could win the division:

Saints lose 1 AFC game finish 12-4

Atlanta loses 2 more games, one being the Saints and finish 12-4

1st rule head to head: Tie

2nd rule is NFC record: Saints

Again, it won't matter if the Saints win out. Atlanta has to lose 2 games.

Beastmode · 11-23-2010, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

I remember back in the day pulling some 13-3 or 12-4 win season only to have San Fran win the division and not getting a wildcard. This might be one of those seasons where we can win out and still not get in with a 13-3 record. Need to get prepared for that.

I remember those days too. I also remember that was the height of San Fran cheating on the cap. They robbed a lot of fans of glory. I wish someone would write a book about it, mainly Montana. He was one of the main culprits.

I believe the Saints will make the playoffs as a wild card but find themselves beat up and fall short unlike last season where they got needed rest down the stretch.

arsaint · 11-24-2010, 08:29 AM

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs
Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

NFL Tie-Breaking Procedures

arsaint · 11-24-2010, 08:31 AM

Easiest way to win NFC South?

1) Beat ATL
2) Beat TB
3) ATL lose to GB, SEA or TB
4) Match Bucs and Falcons in wins on other games

11-23-2010, 02:22 PM	#1
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Playoff scenario??? Ok, one of the radio announcers for the game Sunday, made the statement, that "even if the Saints win out every game, the rest of the season, UNLESS Atlanta loses to an NFC opponent, the best we can hope for is a wild card." Is this true? Could someone explain it a little more detailed for me? Atlanta has Green Bay this weekend, and then at Tampa.... The division could come down, to the Monday night game in Atlanta. I think I might make the drive... WHO'S WITH ME???
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11-23-2010, 03:28 PM	#2
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11-23-2010, 03:49 PM	#3
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Ok, one of the radio announcers for the game Sunday, made the statement, that "even if the Saints win out every game, the rest of the season, UNLESS Atlanta loses to an NFC opponent, the best we can hope for is a wild card." Is this true? Could someone explain it a little more detailed for me? Atlanta has Green Bay this weekend, and then at Tampa.... The division could come down, to the Monday night game in Atlanta. I think I might make the drive... WHO'S WITH ME??? Atlanta has all NFC teams the rest of the way but only two of those teams have a good chance of beating them; Saints and Green Bay. Green Bay has to win. That game is the key for the Saints. If Green Bay loses we are looking at a wild card no matter what the Saints do.
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11-23-2010, 04:38 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Ok, one of the radio announcers for the game Sunday, made the statement, that "even if the Saints win out every game, the rest of the season, UNLESS Atlanta loses to an NFC opponent, the best we can hope for is a wild card." Is this true? Could someone explain it a little more detailed for me? Atlanta has Green Bay this weekend, and then at Tampa.... The division could come down, to the Monday night game in Atlanta. I think I might make the drive... WHO'S WITH ME??? I wouldn't put it past Seattle beating the Falturds at Seattle. And they also have the game left against Tampa Bay.

11-23-2010, 05:32 PM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Feel free to correct me but this is one scenario how the Saints could win the division: Saints lose 1 AFC game finish 12-4 Atlanta loses 2 more games, one being the Saints and finish 12-4 1st rule head to head: Tie 2nd rule is NFC record: Saints Again, it won't matter if the Saints win out. Atlanta has to lose 2 games.
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11-23-2010, 04:15 PM	#4
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 798	Wow! What a difference to last season. We were 10-0 this time last year I think? Now we are hoping we can get a wildcard spot. 7-3 is still good though. Its strange how things pan out in the league. We beat the Seahawks and I think I am right in saying that after that game they were 5-5 and STILL topped their division? WHO DAT!

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lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	I remember back in the day pulling some 13-3 or 12-4 win season only to have San Fran win the division and not getting a wildcard. This might be one of those seasons where we can win out and still not get in with a 13-3 record. Need to get prepared for that.

11-23-2010, 05:41 PM	#8
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Originally Posted by lynwood I remember back in the day pulling some 13-3 or 12-4 win season only to have San Fran win the division and not getting a wildcard. This might be one of those seasons where we can win out and still not get in with a 13-3 record. Need to get prepared for that. I remember those days too. I also remember that was the height of San Fran cheating on the cap. They robbed a lot of fans of glory. I wish someone would write a book about it, mainly Montana. He was one of the main culprits. I believe the Saints will make the playoffs as a wild card but find themselves beat up and fall short unlike last season where they got needed rest down the stretch.
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11-24-2010, 08:29 AM	#9
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,716	TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined. Two Clubs Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Strength of victory. Strength of schedule. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. Best net points in common games. Best net points in all games. Best net touchdowns in all games. Coin toss Three or More Clubs (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format). Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs). Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Strength of victory. Strength of schedule. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. Best net points in common games. Best net points in all games. Best net touchdowns in all games. Coin toss NFL Tie-Breaking Procedures

11-24-2010, 08:31 AM	#10
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,716	Easiest way to win NFC South? 1) Beat ATL 2) Beat TB 3) ATL lose to GB, SEA or TB 4) Match Bucs and Falcons in wins on other games