Why, Payton, Why? Reliance on Reggie Bush almost costs Saints

Beastmode · 11-26-2010, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

That first swing pass that hit him in the head was sort of a no-win situation too. If he had caught it he would have been nailed as soon as he did...maybe even had caused another fumble. No excuse on him dropping the potential TD pass though. I think Payton putting him back there to field that punt may have been his way of giving him a chance to make up for not catching that pass. I'm not saying I agree with that thinking, but it may have played into it.

I watched that play several times. He could have gotten some yards from what I saw. The fumble, he was trying to make up for it when it wasn't needed. How many times has he just gone down or got next to nothing on a return. If anything, I hope they all learned a lesson from Roy to do what is needed and put your ego aside.

lynwood · 11-26-2010, 12:48 PM

Nothing to really talk about. Bush didn't cost us or win us the game. Dallas played themselves back into it.

BIGEASY504 · 11-26-2010, 12:53 PM

I didn't mind the plays he was in but that punt return was not Sean you must thank Jenkins for that game; I hope Bush practices be all out cause he's going to have to get football ready and against the Cowboys it was clear he wasn't.

st thomas · 11-26-2010, 03:10 PM

putting bush to return the punt was not the best call i've seen payton make this year. not even to make him fair catch it. no, no, no. bad call. i know its the fall off the horse get right back on thing but not 8 games later coach.

QBREES9 · 11-26-2010, 11:21 PM

He has to play to get the RUST off. He'll be great next week

Saintswrath · 11-27-2010, 09:15 AM

I agree, it was indeed a bad call by Sean Payton, could have been very costly..
Had it been about 5 mins left in the game with us having a 20 pt lead i would have given it a go but a whole half? Sean Payton got cute again.

Budsdrinker · 11-27-2010, 11:17 PM

It was a great defensive play on the fumble. The defender swatted dead on the ball from behind, it wasn't like a muffed punt. Now the dropped pass is a different story. 9 out of 10 times that's a TD. That was a sign of rust in my opinion. Bush not up to game speed just yet. He'll be fine after next week.

Euphoria · 11-27-2010, 11:30 PM

Sorry I don't buy into being rusty.

He is a professional. It isn't like he was sitting at home eating Bon Bon's on his sofa the whole time.

He is exactly who he has been since he has been here in NO. Sure he can make something special happen but every time you give him the ball you have to hold your breathe.

subguy · 11-28-2010, 10:52 AM

I have voiced this many times and get branded as a Bush hater. He is the highest paid diversion in the NFL. He scares me everytime he touches the ball. Bush is the same old Bush he has not improved or declined. I feel the same thing would've easily happened had he not missed 8 games.

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Sorry I don't buy into being rusty.

He is a professional. It isn't like he was sitting at home eating Bon Bon's on his sofa the whole time.

He is exactly who he has been since he has been here in NO. Sure he can make something special happen but every time you give him the ball you have to hold your breathe.

dasaints26 · 11-28-2010, 04:40 AM

After the game Payton said he put Bush in to return punts because Moore told him he was having trouble with the lights. Bush didnt have any rust that was the same play he made before he got hurt, fumbled a punt.

I looked up a cool stat. Reggie has less rushing yards than the quarterback for the Eagles. No big deal of course Vick has more yards rushing than Bush but I was surprised to see that Kolb has more yards too.

11-26-2010, 11:35 PM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL That first swing pass that hit him in the head was sort of a no-win situation too. If he had caught it he would have been nailed as soon as he did...maybe even had caused another fumble. No excuse on him dropping the potential TD pass though. I think Payton putting him back there to field that punt may have been his way of giving him a chance to make up for not catching that pass. I'm not saying I agree with that thinking, but it may have played into it. I watched that play several times. He could have gotten some yards from what I saw. The fumble, he was trying to make up for it when it wasn't needed. How many times has he just gone down or got next to nothing on a return. If anything, I hope they all learned a lesson from Roy to do what is needed and put your ego aside.
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BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	I didn't mind the plays he was in but that punt return was not Sean you must thank Jenkins for that game; I hope Bush practices be all out cause he's going to have to get football ready and against the Cowboys it was clear he wasn't.
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11-28-2010, 10:52 AM	#9
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,104	I have voiced this many times and get branded as a Bush hater. He is the highest paid diversion in the NFL. He scares me everytime he touches the ball. Bush is the same old Bush he has not improved or declined. I feel the same thing would've easily happened had he not missed 8 games. Originally Posted by Euphoria Sorry I don't buy into being rusty. He is a professional. It isn't like he was sitting at home eating Bon Bon's on his sofa the whole time. He is exactly who he has been since he has been here in NO. Sure he can make something special happen but every time you give him the ball you have to hold your breathe.

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dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167	After the game Payton said he put Bush in to return punts because Moore told him he was having trouble with the lights. Bush didnt have any rust that was the same play he made before he got hurt, fumbled a punt. I looked up a cool stat. Reggie has less rushing yards than the quarterback for the Eagles. No big deal of course Vick has more yards rushing than Bush but I was surprised to see that Kolb has more yards too.
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11-26-2010, 12:48 PM	#2
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Nothing to really talk about. Bush didn't cost us or win us the game. Dallas played themselves back into it.

11-26-2010, 03:10 PM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	putting bush to return the punt was not the best call i've seen payton make this year. not even to make him fair catch it. no, no, no. bad call. i know its the fall off the horse get right back on thing but not 8 games later coach.

11-26-2010, 11:21 PM	#5
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	He has to play to get the RUST off. He'll be great next week

11-27-2010, 09:15 AM	#6
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	I agree, it was indeed a bad call by Sean Payton, could have been very costly.. Had it been about 5 mins left in the game with us having a 20 pt lead i would have given it a go but a whole half? Sean Payton got cute again.

11-27-2010, 11:17 PM	#7
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	It was a great defensive play on the fumble. The defender swatted dead on the ball from behind, it wasn't like a muffed punt. Now the dropped pass is a different story. 9 out of 10 times that's a TD. That was a sign of rust in my opinion. Bush not up to game speed just yet. He'll be fine after next week.

11-27-2010, 11:30 PM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Sorry I don't buy into being rusty. He is a professional. It isn't like he was sitting at home eating Bon Bon's on his sofa the whole time. He is exactly who he has been since he has been here in NO. Sure he can make something special happen but every time you give him the ball you have to hold your breathe.