The "Fire McMahon" Thread

Barry from MS · 12-05-2010, 09:29 PM

Garbage...his Special Teams are garbage. Today was the last straw for me. 12 men on the field on 4th down to give CIN a first down. ANOTHER kick-off out of bounds. Was it me, or did CIN start around the 40 yard line most of the game?

So far this year, #27 versus punt returns and #19 in kickoff returns. And how 'bout that Cleveland game? That was probably the absolute WORST Special Teams game I've ever seen the Saints play, and that spans about 30 years. Plus they were awful last year and the year before.

Greg McMahon. He is Sean's buddy from the college years from what I gather, but Sean's gotta cut bait. Greggie's only real accomplishments (in my mind) are Morstead's onside kick in the SB and Gleason's blocked punt versus ATL. Overall, there has been WAY more bad than good in the last 5 years. If it wasn't for Morstead being 4th in punt average and 7th in net punting, we'd own the distinction of being the absolute worst Special Teams in the NFL. We simply haven't won the ST battle game-to-game even on a pedestrian level lately.

Wondering why games have been so close with seemingly inferior teams? Special Teams...

Other than this, I'm pretty happy with our Saints...march on to the playoffs!

spkb25 · 12-05-2010, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Garbage...his Special Teams are garbage. Today was the last straw for me. 12 men on the field on 4th down to give CIN a first down. ANOTHER kick-off out of bounds. Was it me, or did CIN start around the 40 yard line most of the game?

So far this year, #27 versus punt returns and #19 in kickoff returns. And how 'bout that Cleveland game? That was probably the absolute WORST Special Teams game I've ever seen the Saints play, and that spans about 30 years. Plus they were awful last year and the year before.

Greg McMahon. He is Sean's buddy from the college years from what I gather, but Sean's gotta cut bait. Greggie's only real accomplishments (in my mind) are Morstead's onside kick in the SB and Gleason's blocked punt versus ATL. Overall, there been WAY more bad than good in the last 5 years. If it wasn't for Morstead being 4th in punt average and 7th in net punting, we'd own the distinction of being the absolute worst in the NFL. We simply haven't won the ST battle game-to-game even on a pedestrian level lately.

Wondering why games have been so close with seemingly inferior teams? Special Teams...

Other than this, I pretty happy with our Saints...march on to the playoffs!

Something needs to sake that **** up, call that ***** in the office and tell him his ass is on the line

C17-BING · 12-05-2010, 09:36 PM

Did you see what SP said to him on that 4th down? If you could read lips he said "Hey, what the EFF HAPPENED ON THAT 4th DOWN!?!?!?!" I think he's pretty pissed about it too ...

But, I don't expect a mid-season change.

LivnaLieTimay · 12-05-2010, 09:48 PM

Something needs to be done because we are awful on Special Teams. I have never in my life seen a game where the field position was so one sided as it was today. The Bengals had 11 possessions; 8 started at the 40 or better, the other 3 started at the 28, 33, and 34. The Saints had 10 possessions; our best field position was the 34 and had 3 possessions start inside our own 6. I guess if a team is being manhandled and not moving the ball then maybe there would be a huge discrepancy in field position but our offense scored 34 points. The kickoff and punt coverage were both atrocious. Then add on a huge 12 men on the field penalty and poor returns on kickoff and punt returns and you have a horrible effort all around by our Special Teams.

saintfan · 12-05-2010, 10:58 PM

Time to put some starters in on ST if you ask me.

st thomas · 12-05-2010, 11:28 PM

i were'nt saying much on this area of our team but this is not saints football u are all right. even roby's runbacks are less than average. he had this area wrapped up even when he could have loss his job to the guy with all the run back records. this has to be addressed. and its the reason game after game were always in a sh^%thole to start.

alleycat_126 · 12-05-2010, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by C17-BING

Did you see what SP said to him on that 4th down? If you could read lips he said "Hey, what the EFF HAPPENED ON THAT 4th DOWN!?!?!?!" I think he's pretty pissed about it too ...

But, I don't expect a mid-season change.

Twice I read his lips on that play, and then on the Garrett Hartley seems like he said are you F*^&in kiddin me!!!!!

Garrett Hartley is a waste of space in a Saints uniform, main reason we are not in a better position in the NFC South race. Also the main reason why we didn't go into overtime against the Bengals. I don't think they had faith in him to make it. Drew Brees especially. Brees wanted this win no bull****.

BringTheWood · 12-06-2010, 02:26 AM

Our special teams is pretty miserable right now. That penalty is absolutely inexcusable. We had them stopped. Specifically, the only thing that excites me about our ST right now is Roby. He may not have had the best game today, but generally he is a lights out gunner and "smart" return man. Rarely afraid to give us the 20 yard line, which really would have helped us today.

jeanpierre · 12-06-2010, 04:03 AM

Makes you wonder why we spent a R5 pick on a punter that could have been had in FA?

SP will tighten schtuff up in the offseason, especially if it is an unnecessary early offseason.

Danno · 12-06-2010, 08:26 AM

The fact that Payton made it a point to say that the penalty wasn't Marvin Mitchell's fault says all I need to hear.

McMahon's days are numbered.

12-05-2010, 09:36 PM	#3
C17-BING 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 231	Did you see what SP said to him on that 4th down? If you could read lips he said "Hey, what the EFF HAPPENED ON THAT 4th DOWN!?!?!?!" I think he's pretty pissed about it too ... But, I don't expect a mid-season change.
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12-05-2010, 11:41 PM	#7
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by C17-BING Did you see what SP said to him on that 4th down? If you could read lips he said "Hey, what the EFF HAPPENED ON THAT 4th DOWN!?!?!?!" I think he's pretty pissed about it too ... But, I don't expect a mid-season change. Twice I read his lips on that play, and then on the Garrett Hartley seems like he said are you F^&in kiddin me!!!!! Garrett Hartley is a waste of space in a Saints uniform, main reason we are not in a better position in the NFC South race. Also the main reason why we didn't go into overtime against the Bengals. I don't think they had faith in him to make it. Drew Brees especially. Brees wanted this win no bull***.

12-06-2010, 02:26 AM	#8
BringTheWood 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 165	Our special teams is pretty miserable right now. That penalty is absolutely inexcusable. We had them stopped. Specifically, the only thing that excites me about our ST right now is Roby. He may not have had the best game today, but generally he is a lights out gunner and "smart" return man. Rarely afraid to give us the 20 yard line, which really would have helped us today.
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12-05-2010, 09:29 PM	#1
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	The "Fire McMahon" Thread Garbage...his Special Teams are garbage. Today was the last straw for me. 12 men on the field on 4th down to give CIN a first down. ANOTHER kick-off out of bounds. Was it me, or did CIN start around the 40 yard line most of the game? So far this year, #27 versus punt returns and #19 in kickoff returns. And how 'bout that Cleveland game? That was probably the absolute WORST Special Teams game I've ever seen the Saints play, and that spans about 30 years. Plus they were awful last year and the year before. Greg McMahon. He is Sean's buddy from the college years from what I gather, but Sean's gotta cut bait. Greggie's only real accomplishments (in my mind) are Morstead's onside kick in the SB and Gleason's blocked punt versus ATL. Overall, there has been WAY more bad than good in the last 5 years. If it wasn't for Morstead being 4th in punt average and 7th in net punting, we'd own the distinction of being the absolute worst Special Teams in the NFL. We simply haven't won the ST battle game-to-game even on a pedestrian level lately. Wondering why games have been so close with seemingly inferior teams? Special Teams... Other than this, I'm pretty happy with our Saints...march on to the playoffs!

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12-05-2010, 09:31 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Originally Posted by Barry from MS Garbage...his Special Teams are garbage. Today was the last straw for me. 12 men on the field on 4th down to give CIN a first down. ANOTHER kick-off out of bounds. Was it me, or did CIN start around the 40 yard line most of the game? So far this year, #27 versus punt returns and #19 in kickoff returns. And how 'bout that Cleveland game? That was probably the absolute WORST Special Teams game I've ever seen the Saints play, and that spans about 30 years. Plus they were awful last year and the year before. Greg McMahon. He is Sean's buddy from the college years from what I gather, but Sean's gotta cut bait. Greggie's only real accomplishments (in my mind) are Morstead's onside kick in the SB and Gleason's blocked punt versus ATL. Overall, there been WAY more bad than good in the last 5 years. If it wasn't for Morstead being 4th in punt average and 7th in net punting, we'd own the distinction of being the absolute worst in the NFL. We simply haven't won the ST battle game-to-game even on a pedestrian level lately. Wondering why games have been so close with seemingly inferior teams? Special Teams... Other than this, I pretty happy with our Saints...march on to the playoffs! Something needs to sake that ** up, call that *** in the office and tell him his ass is on the line

12-05-2010, 09:48 PM	#4
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	Something needs to be done because we are awful on Special Teams. I have never in my life seen a game where the field position was so one sided as it was today. The Bengals had 11 possessions; 8 started at the 40 or better, the other 3 started at the 28, 33, and 34. The Saints had 10 possessions; our best field position was the 34 and had 3 possessions start inside our own 6. I guess if a team is being manhandled and not moving the ball then maybe there would be a huge discrepancy in field position but our offense scored 34 points. The kickoff and punt coverage were both atrocious. Then add on a huge 12 men on the field penalty and poor returns on kickoff and punt returns and you have a horrible effort all around by our Special Teams.

12-05-2010, 10:58 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Time to put some starters in on ST if you ask me.

12-05-2010, 11:28 PM	#6
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	i were'nt saying much on this area of our team but this is not saints football u are all right. even roby's runbacks are less than average. he had this area wrapped up even when he could have loss his job to the guy with all the run back records. this has to be addressed. and its the reason game after game were always in a sh^%thole to start.

12-06-2010, 04:03 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Makes you wonder why we spent a R5 pick on a punter that could have been had in FA? SP will tighten schtuff up in the offseason, especially if it is an unnecessary early offseason.

12-06-2010, 08:26 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	The fact that Payton made it a point to say that the penalty wasn't Marvin Mitchell's fault says all I need to hear. McMahon's days are numbered.