Chris Ivory

pumpkindriver · 12-06-2010, 01:01 PM

Having not read everything in this thread, my only point is that PT is the only back we have than can run the screen effectively. Anyone else we try to use on that play fails miserably. We get tackled for loss every time. I was screaming at the radio, Don't run another screen!!! Thank goddness we didn't.

Rugby Saint II · 12-06-2010, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by pumpkindriver

Having not read everything in this thread, my only point is that PT is the only back we have than can run the screen effectively. Anyone else we try to use on that play fails miserably. We get tackled for loss every time. I was screaming at the radio, Don't run another screen!!! Thank goddness we didn't.

Now that's a serious fan!

TheOak · 12-07-2010, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by pumpkindriver

Having not read everything in this thread, my only point is that PT is the only back we have than can run the screen effectively. Anyone else we try to use on that play fails miserably. We get tackled for loss every time. I was screaming at the radio, Don't run another screen!!! Thank goddness we didn't.

Bear with me because I have to make a few assumptions based on your reply. This is not just to you, a lot of people keep saying the same thing.
From what I read your saying our inability to run an effective screen this season is because of the absence of Pierre Thomas. I will have to assume that you are basing our screen effectiveness on last years games?

I have an alternative reason for our inability to run a screen this year. Our Offensive Line is preforming no where near the way it did last year. A screen is more about good blocking than it is good running. We are getting tackled in the backfield on screens, that has nothing to do with the back.

This year:
Drew has been sacked 17 times for 133 yards in 12 games.
16 interceptions by week 13. <=== not enough time in the pocket.
Drew has been hit 50 times by week 13

Last Year:
Last year he was sacked 20 times for 135 yards in 16 games.
At this point in the season he had been sacked 15 times for 99 yards..
Drew had a total of 11 interceptions. <===When he has time in the pocket.
Hit 52 times in 16 games.

Also another comment to all. I wish some people would make up their mind, instead of trying to justify PT man love.

Ivory: Runs to hard, only a vertical runner, no field of vision, gets hurt too much, fumbles, too many yards.... Too much like the greatest back that everyone would love to have back Deuce!

Bush: Does not run hard enough, does not run vertical, needs to stop reading the entire field and dancing through his run, does not gain enough yards....

Thomas: Perfect, we can pass to him more... <== Give me a break! We need to put the ball in the air more about as much as La. needs Eddie back as governor.

Who do we fear the most? Who does the most damage to our Defense?
Thats right... The Peterson's, Turner's, Johnson's, Gore's of the league.. Not the Pierre Thomas's

If we have dreams and aspirations of being more than a one and done never to be heard from again Super Bowl champ, we need a North to South back that can chunk out 4-5 yards a carry to burn up clock.

You scream at the radio when they try a screen? I scream at the radio when we fly down the field in 35 seconds of game time passing and score leaving our opponent 2+ minutes of game clock to come back, score and beat us. If we spent more time grinding it out we would be in a lot better shape. We score so fast most of the time our opponents Offense never looses rhythm.

12-06-2010, 01:16 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,187	Originally Posted by pumpkindriver Having not read everything in this thread, my only point is that PT is the only back we have than can run the screen effectively. Anyone else we try to use on that play fails miserably. We get tackled for loss every time. I was screaming at the radio, Don't run another screen!!! Thank goddness we didn't. Now that's a serious fan!

12-07-2010, 07:11 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Originally Posted by pumpkindriver Having not read everything in this thread, my only point is that PT is the only back we have than can run the screen effectively. Anyone else we try to use on that play fails miserably. We get tackled for loss every time. I was screaming at the radio, Don't run another screen!!! Thank goddness we didn't. Bear with me because I have to make a few assumptions based on your reply. This is not just to you, a lot of people keep saying the same thing. From what I read your saying our inability to run an effective screen this season is because of the absence of Pierre Thomas. I will have to assume that you are basing our screen effectiveness on last years games? I have an alternative reason for our inability to run a screen this year. Our Offensive Line is preforming no where near the way it did last year. A screen is more about good blocking than it is good running. We are getting tackled in the backfield on screens, that has nothing to do with the back. This year: Drew has been sacked 17 times for 133 yards in 12 games. 16 interceptions by week 13. <=== not enough time in the pocket. Drew has been hit 50 times by week 13 Last Year: Last year he was sacked 20 times for 135 yards in 16 games. At this point in the season he had been sacked 15 times for 99 yards.. Drew had a total of 11 interceptions. <===When he has time in the pocket. Hit 52 times in 16 games. Also another comment to all. I wish some people would make up their mind, instead of trying to justify PT man love. Ivory: Runs to hard, only a vertical runner, no field of vision, gets hurt too much, fumbles, too many yards.... Too much like the greatest back that everyone would love to have back Deuce! Bush: Does not run hard enough, does not run vertical, needs to stop reading the entire field and dancing through his run, does not gain enough yards.... Thomas: Perfect, we can pass to him more... <== Give me a break! We need to put the ball in the air more about as much as La. needs Eddie back as governor. Who do we fear the most? Who does the most damage to our Defense? Thats right... The Peterson's, Turner's, Johnson's, Gore's of the league.. Not the Pierre Thomas's If we have dreams and aspirations of being more than a one and done never to be heard from again Super Bowl champ, we need a North to South back that can chunk out 4-5 yards a carry to burn up clock. You scream at the radio when they try a screen? I scream at the radio when we fly down the field in 35 seconds of game time passing and score leaving our opponent 2+ minutes of game clock to come back, score and beat us. If we spent more time grinding it out we would be in a lot better shape. We score so fast most of the time our opponents Offense never looses rhythm.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-06-2010, 01:01 PM	#1
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Having not read everything in this thread, my only point is that PT is the only back we have than can run the screen effectively. Anyone else we try to use on that play fails miserably. We get tackled for loss every time. I was screaming at the radio, Don't run another screen!!! Thank goddness we didn't.