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Green Bay - 20 Tampa Bay - 13

CP/AT YDS TD INT
B. Favre 13/28 92 1 1
PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
B. Johnson 17/28 149 1 2

These 2 teams will never make it to the super bowl with those inconsistent QB's. Oh, I forgot. Both of those QB's have won a super bowl.

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That is a weak attempt at a defense, but at least you didn\'t go comparing Brooks with Delhomme. Come on Billy even you have to admit that Brooks is not consistent. He\'s like John Starks (who was one of my fav Bball players). It doesn\'t mean he sucks, I\'m not saying that I\'m just saying he\'s inconsistent and it is hard to go all the way with an inconsistent QB.

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The problem with some folks is they don\'t tell the whole story. For instance:

1. The first interception was because Michael Lewis ran the wrong route. The announcers said the samething about 3-times. Did you have your volumne turned down.

2. There were NUMEROUS dropped passes today. Did you not notice that too?

3. Brooks completion percetage for the year is just fine. It\'s more consistant than most QB\'s in the league. Do you not know that?

4. QB\'s make mistakes. It\'s the nature of the position.

It\'s funny that y\'all talk about Brooks being inconsistant but the stats don\'t bear that out. Yeah, I know. Stats don\'t matter because I\'m just suppose to take y\'alls word that Brooks is inconsistant and ignore everything else.

Brooks is doing just fine and it\'s funny how another QB wins a game that\'s all that matters, but when the Saints win, Brooks somehow is held to a different standard. Pretty hypocritical IMO.

[Edited on 17/11/2003 by BillyC]

[Edited on 17/11/2003 by BillyC]

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The announcer doesn\'t know the play that was called! The only way it could have been Lewis\'s fault is if he was supposed to run a slant but ran out, streak, or post instead. Do you see what Lewis ran? He ran a slant!!!! The corner was playing about 3 yards off of him and to the inside. The corner was in perfect position Brooks just didn\'t look to his left AT ALL. He just threw when he saw people coming. Even Brooks was patting his chest indicating it was HIS FAULT. It just goes to show how desperate you are Billy. Trying say that interception was Lewis fault is a flat out lie. It\'s sad that you can\'t hold Brooks accountable for anything, even when Brooks himself takes accountablity.

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seraph33 -- Try to stick to the FACTS. Like the announcers said, when a receiver runs a slant route he should NEVER let the corner have the inside position. Anyway, I knew that since the 7th grade. Now you know it to. We have just increased your football knowledge........... ;)

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and qbs should never stare down receivers...

Learned that in eigth grade.

No need to be snippy. The INT goes on Brooks\'s stats not the receiver\'s.

Are stats important this week?

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I\'m not being snippy. I\'m just playing around. Brooks had a bad very bad first half. He sucked in the first half. But, geeez, give the guy some credit for making some great plays in the second half. Acknowledge all the dropped passes by the receivers. Acknowlege Brooks running the ball and picking up key first downs with his legs. Brooks played pretty damn good in the second half and it\'s like no one saw that. But, it\'s what I\'ve come to expect on this board.

If someone is gonna post nothing but the negitive parts of Brooks game, then they shouldn\'t get their feelings hurt when I set the record straight. Now, if you think I\'m skewing the facts, then point out where?

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Atlanta got on the board first in the 1st quarter on a 15-yard interception return by Tod McBride. The pass was intended for Michael Lewis who read the wrong defense and ran the wrong route. - www.neworleansprofootball.com

http://www.neworleansprofootball.com...-falcons2.html

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Thank you. I tried to tell \'em but they can\'t handle the truth -- ;)

One day they are gonna listen to me.................



[Edited on 17/11/2003 by BillyC]

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I gotta make a correction here. I had the game Tivoed and just went back. The announcers NEVER said Lewis ran the wrong route. What they did say is that he should have flattened his route to cut in front of the corner. However, technically speaking, he ran the route EXACTLY like it was designed. Now, I\'m sure Billy is still going to blame this one on Lewis, but it was clearly Brooks\' fault. I\'ve watched it 150000 times. Brooks was looking directly at Lewis the entire time. The CB started to break before Brooks even brought the ball up to throw it. It was a terrible read and terrible decision. Admit that Billy. Look at what I\'ve written about Brooks in other threads before you freak out. But this one WAS Brooks\' fault. He threw five very dangerous and ill-advised passes today that could have been and/or were picked off. He had a bad game - like you said - it happens to all NFL QBs.

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Well, I haven\'t had the chance to go back and see the play to know for sure. I was going by what the announcers said and by what I read. But, I\'ll take your word for it.

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Hey Billy - this is why you set people off. Man, just say - \"OK. I was wrong about that one. Brooks made a terrible read on that one play and it hurt the Saints.\" If you can\'t say that then you lose credibility in the eyes of a lot of people. It\'s obvious to everyone else. I bet Brooks will even admit to it. He\'s streaky - you said it yourself. We\'ll see if he develops into Brett Favre or Jake Plummer. Either is possible.

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Hey, hold on just a second brother. First, I ain\'t really concerned about who I set off. Second, if I knew it to be a fact that Lewis didn\'t run the wrong route, I would say so. Third, I was willing to take your word for it, when EVERYTHING I\'ve heard says just the opposite.

Lastly, I know longer take your word for it and am going to go back and watch it to find out for myself. Geeez, I admit I didn\'t know for sure and I get drug through the mud for it ---- :mad:

You need to learn to care. Quit being this way.

[Edited on 17/11/2003 by JOESAM2002]

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yeah you\'re right. I\'ll try to tighten up there gator.

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Man I make more mistakes than probably any memebers on here. I don\'t care. As long as they know what I\'m talking about.....

If I wanted to be perfect of impress folks, I would type everything in word and paste it on here. LOL -- Besides my typing being dangerous, my spelling seems to get worse the longer I\'ve been out of school.

[Edited on 17/11/2003 by BillyC]

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When it comes down to it, there is no point in trying to hold a debate with you Billy . . . it\'s like talking to a brick wall.

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seraph33 - I won\'t get into the personal attacks but I will tell the WHOLE story about Brooks. If you read my post, I said Brooks played terrible in the first half. As a matter of fact, I said \"Brooks Sucked\" in the first half. I guess I need to say it a 1,000 times to make folks like you happy?

But, I\'m going to tell the WHOLE story, unlike some fans who will NOT acknowledge that Brooks played a very good second half. I know this tends to upset the Brooks\' bashers who was calling for his head before halftime, but read your sports page this morning and they will tell you the samething I\'m tellin\' ya -- :P In case you didn\'t pick up your newspapaer, I posted the acrticle for you at the bottom of this post -- :D

As far as the interception that was thrown to Lewis -- it was reported that Lewis ran the wrong route, but I really don\'t know, so I\'m not going to sit here and pretend I do. I could be wrong about that.



[Edited on 17/11/2003 by BillyC]

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Guys, Guys, Guys...BOTH of those INT\'s are on Brooks. Nevermind whether Lewis rans the wrong route or didn\'t run the route properly. I am a fan of Aaron Brooks as everyone in here knows, but even I admit both of \'em are on HIM.

HOWEVER, on a day where his mistakes cost the team early, he came back in the second half and guided the team to the tying \"3\" with some hella throws in that drive, and the lazer to Horn in Overtime was exceptional too.

Sometimes Billy gets defensive of Brooks because on this board it\'s popular to blame Aaron for EVERYTHING. Blame where blame is warranted, but Credit where Credit is due too.


\"Tivoed\"...hmmm...is that in Webster\'s yet. If not it will be! LOL

Whodat, I don\'t beleive you watched it 150000 times either. Ease up on da Tang man!

:P

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Here is what Haslett had to say about the interceptions looks like he put them both on Brooks.

\"He made two poor throws that cost us a couple of touchdowns, but the guy came out in the second half and did a great job.\" -- Haslett on Brooks.
http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...3902291880.xml

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saint5221-- Yep, I read that. I will step up to the plate and say that both of those interceptions were Brooks\' fault. It was reported that Lewis ran the wrong route, but I went back and watched it, and whether or not Lewis ran the wrong route, Brooks still threw a very ill advised pass that he never should have thrown.

[Edited on 18/11/2003 by BillyC]

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I\'m just praying it was some rust from the bye week and the second half play sticks. With all the reciver problems and line injuries we need Brooks more than ever.