The Payton must be the dumbest coach of all time to not put Reggie in every down.

10 yards more per play with Reggie in the line-up huh? I take back everything I ever said about Reggie. Thats hall-of-fame stuff there, in fact its his own wing in the hall-of-fame. Gale Sayers and Jim Brown combined couldn't do that. Thats awesome.

I Cant wait to see him and Ivory togeather. They are going to run people over. PERIOD!! WHO DAT!

Thats gotta be what... 20 yards per play?

dude, don't go overboard. i read it somewhere, I'll try and find it.

Overboard? If he adds 10 yards to every play thats phenominal.

here, this is another source, different from my original one:

But here is the real STATS that you don't see. The Saints amassed 6500 yards of offense in the regular season last year. The average yards per play on offense was 6.1 yards per play. The Saints averaged 14.6 yards per play when Bush was ON the field as compared to 4.9 yards per play when he was on the sideline.

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I guess that answers that.

Great game PT

Not exactly. If Bush was on the field for the majority of pass plays (higher average) versus run plays (lower average) then the stat doesn't translate to Reggie adding 10 yards to every play.

On short yardage plays is Reggie on the field?

He's typically on the field for pass plays.

If he truly adds 10 yards per play, he should be a hall of famer and he deserves every dime of his 12 million dollar salary.

I am curious though, why is Payton reducing his snaps? I'm sure if Payton knew he added 10 yards per play just by being in the line-up he'd put Bush in on every play.

I think the stat may be a tad misleading, especially since we score more points when Reggie is out versus when Reggie is in. How can that be explained?

Do you guys really think he adds 10 yards per play?


BTW: Thats some poster comment stating that stat. I'd really like to something a bit more definitive than that.

to the last question? yes. it's a statistical fact.

15 yards per play if 50% more than most teams average on pass plays. he's every defense's kryptonite.

And yet we score less with him in the line-up. Go figure.

I'm willing to bet that's more a facet of the way we play red-zone offense than a knock on Bush.

ah. I'm done. you can take it from here.:)

C'mon man, he adds 10 freaking yards per play but we score less with him in the line-up?


I think I might be getting the hang of this now... let me try...

When Reggie is out of the line-up, opposing defenses are so relieved that they let down their guard and we end up scoring more.

Or... they are so confused, not knowing what to do with the extra 2 guys they normally put on Reggie, that they cannot execute their scheme correctly anymore.

Or... since Reggie is on the sideline (in street clothes), all 11 defenders are still spying him and not paying attention to the guys on the field, allowing Drew to march down the field (albeit in significantly smaller chunks) and score more.

The Reggie-Fear factor. LOL!!!

While I think he's our 3rd best RB, it will be interesting to see the 3-headed monster PT/Ivory/Bush all healthy and contributing.

Now that healthy trio would truly cause Defensive Coordinators some serious nightmares.

Sleep Tight.

I wish Ivory would pack a few pounds maybe. I'm scared he'll break. Not because he's small, but because he runs like a 260 pounder.

I called it in the Chat - PT would come up big.

Also said I thought Meachem and Moore would, too... :)

:popcorn:

The red-zone offense argument really isn't that sophisticated, Danno. You don't pull many play-action passes for 50 yards from the 10.

Rewatched the game last night and I was right, he was never triple teamed.

To my surprise he was never double teamed either.

And I was quite shocked that on 2 plays no one followed him at all when he went in motion. He was 0 covered (well sorta', they were playing zone)

The Reggie exaggerations are getting ridiculous guys. They're bordering on Chuck Norris jokes, only some of you think they're real.

you may be a truth addict, danno, but you're smoking low-grade schwag, and missing the bigger point.

we are a much, much better team with Reggie, than without him.

I don't disagree with that at all.

WE ARE a better team with him. But he doesn't get triple-teamed all the time.

I'm positive you are missing my point.

No, i'm not danno, but does it really matter?

I think you are.

My point is simple, Reggie does not get triple-teamed every play.

What does that have to do with whether we're better team with him than without him?

Answer-> It has nothing to do with it at all, therefore you are missing the point.

so in other words, you can count to three.

you have no point. you're wrong.

So in other words, you realize you're wrong and you're being childish about it.

My point was 100% correct.

No. my point is that you're arguing geometry, but that football is a chess match.

Grow up.

All of this is strictly opinion...stats don't weigh in favor of Bush's contribution. The same could be said for Thomas. Maybe what both guys bring to the table is what is less obvious. I am not a Bush fan and I am a PT fan. This does not mean that they can't play on the same team, it is strictly my opinion. I would like to see what we could do with Ivory and PT operating in the same backfield. PT is great with the wheel and swing passes and Ivory is coming into his own as a solid back.

WTF do you mean by grow up? Just because you're wrong don't take it personally.

I'm fully grown, and on point.