Are we missing Grant???

|Mitch| · 01-04-2011, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

What are we against the run? I would bet it's not top 15.

16th allowing 112.3 yards per game average

Budsdrinker · 01-04-2011, 07:24 PM

The defense is much better this year than last year. The only difference is the lack of turnovers or actually the ability to hold on to the ball. We have had several dropped INT chances and just like the Dallas game the defense forced 5 fumbles and we didn't recover a single one. Last year we also benefited by playing against several rookie QB's whereas we only played against 2 this year and what happened in those games turnovers. Now another to consider in the turnover ratio is Drew has thrown 12 more pics than last year too.

Danno · 01-04-2011, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Brown gets mauled/blown up in the run game. Charleston does also. Baltimore kept both on their arses all night. I agree our OLBs are subpar. They can't defend a back screen to save their lives.

I guess you haven't watched Porter and Greer the past few weeks? Greer is getting beaten by everyone and Porter is a pass interference penalty ready to happen.

So when you say "getting abused all year" you really mean the last few weeks?

OK, gotcha.

|Mitch| · 01-04-2011, 07:26 PM

we're 4th in pass defense, allowing 193.9 yards a game. Porter & Greer + the rest of the secondary can't be doing too bad or we would be ranked way lower...

dizzle88 · 01-04-2011, 07:27 PM

I hate to say it but Greer got owned by two rookies at WR for Tampa bay, and mike Williams in Seattle. I love the guy but he needs to step up, porter seems to be sometimes one step behind alot always is just chasing after the catch is made. They are great, but not playing up to their potential.

Danno · 01-04-2011, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

we're 4th in pass defense, allowing 193.9 yards a game. Porter & Greer + the rest of the secondary can't be doing too bad or we would be ranked way lower...

True, I'm a bit surprised by all the exaggerations. Its starting to feel like SR.com

ClintSaints · 01-04-2011, 07:33 PM

No we are not missing Charles Grant. The Falcons passed on him after we released him. The Bears tried him out as well and after one game, they released him. The reason the Saints are not getting turnovers this year is because the Saints went from being the 25th ranked defense last season to being the 4th ranked defense this season. They are not getting turnovers because they are getting a lot more three and outs from opposing teams, which functions the same way as a turnover.

Boutte · 01-04-2011, 07:40 PM

Too many games the Qb looks very comfortable in the pocket. Even when we blitz there isn't enough pressure. When you have this problem corner backs tend to get embarrassed a lot. Ever notice that when opposing QBs do have run out of the pocket the only one chasing them is Will Smith?

niteadept · 01-04-2011, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

No we are not missing Charles Grant. The Falcons passed on him after we released him. The Bears tried him out as well and after one game, they released him. The reason the Saints are not getting turnovers this year is because the Saints went from being the 25th ranked defense last season to being the 4th ranked defense this season. They are not getting turnovers because they are getting a lot more three and outs from opposing teams, which functions the same way as a turnover.

Like this, but the three and outs functioning like a turnover would be better if they were mostly converted to 6 pts. I don't have a problem with 3 n out, but I do have a problem when our offense doesn't make the most of it. Best of both worlds - defense holds them to 3 and out or pick 6 and then when offense is on the field, we get another 6. Will Smith should continue pretending the offense is his wife. That way he can't be charged and someone else takes his wrath.

papz · 01-04-2011, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

No we are not missing Charles Grant. The Falcons passed on him after we released him. The Bears tried him out as well and after one game, they released him. The reason the Saints are not getting turnovers this year is because the Saints went from being the 25th ranked defense last season to being the 4th ranked defense this season. They are not getting turnovers because they are getting a lot more three and outs from opposing teams, which functions the same way as a turnover.

This. It's kind of sad as he once was a pretty solid football player... now he's fallen off the face of the earth. Wherever he may be now, I'm pretty sure his bank account is still fat and he's eating really well.

01-04-2011, 07:22 PM	#11
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by Mr Magic What are we against the run? I would bet it's not top 15. 16th allowing 112.3 yards per game average

01-04-2011, 07:25 PM	#13
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Brown gets mauled/blown up in the run game. Charleston does also. Baltimore kept both on their arses all night. I agree our OLBs are subpar. They can't defend a back screen to save their lives. I guess you haven't watched Porter and Greer the past few weeks? Greer is getting beaten by everyone and Porter is a pass interference penalty ready to happen. So when you say "getting abused all year" you really mean the last few weeks? OK, gotcha.

01-04-2011, 07:28 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| we're 4th in pass defense, allowing 193.9 yards a game. Porter & Greer + the rest of the secondary can't be doing too bad or we would be ranked way lower... True, I'm a bit surprised by all the exaggerations. Its starting to feel like SR.com

01-04-2011, 07:56 PM	#19
niteadept Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 520 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by ClintSaints No we are not missing Charles Grant. The Falcons passed on him after we released him. The Bears tried him out as well and after one game, they released him. The reason the Saints are not getting turnovers this year is because the Saints went from being the 25th ranked defense last season to being the 4th ranked defense this season. They are not getting turnovers because they are getting a lot more three and outs from opposing teams, which functions the same way as a turnover. Like this, but the three and outs functioning like a turnover would be better if they were mostly converted to 6 pts. I don't have a problem with 3 n out, but I do have a problem when our offense doesn't make the most of it. Best of both worlds - defense holds them to 3 and out or pick 6 and then when offense is on the field, we get another 6. Will Smith should continue pretending the offense is his wife. That way he can't be charged and someone else takes his wrath.

01-04-2011, 08:33 PM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Originally Posted by ClintSaints No we are not missing Charles Grant. The Falcons passed on him after we released him. The Bears tried him out as well and after one game, they released him. The reason the Saints are not getting turnovers this year is because the Saints went from being the 25th ranked defense last season to being the 4th ranked defense this season. They are not getting turnovers because they are getting a lot more three and outs from opposing teams, which functions the same way as a turnover. This. It's kind of sad as he once was a pretty solid football player... now he's fallen off the face of the earth. Wherever he may be now, I'm pretty sure his bank account is still fat and he's eating really well.

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01-04-2011, 07:24 PM	#12
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	The defense is much better this year than last year. The only difference is the lack of turnovers or actually the ability to hold on to the ball. We have had several dropped INT chances and just like the Dallas game the defense forced 5 fumbles and we didn't recover a single one. Last year we also benefited by playing against several rookie QB's whereas we only played against 2 this year and what happened in those games turnovers. Now another to consider in the turnover ratio is Drew has thrown 12 more pics than last year too.

01-04-2011, 07:26 PM	#14
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	we're 4th in pass defense, allowing 193.9 yards a game. Porter & Greer + the rest of the secondary can't be doing too bad or we would be ranked way lower...

01-04-2011, 07:27 PM	#15
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	I hate to say it but Greer got owned by two rookies at WR for Tampa bay, and mike Williams in Seattle. I love the guy but he needs to step up, porter seems to be sometimes one step behind alot always is just chasing after the catch is made. They are great, but not playing up to their potential.

01-04-2011, 07:33 PM	#17
ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	No we are not missing Charles Grant. The Falcons passed on him after we released him. The Bears tried him out as well and after one game, they released him. The reason the Saints are not getting turnovers this year is because the Saints went from being the 25th ranked defense last season to being the 4th ranked defense this season. They are not getting turnovers because they are getting a lot more three and outs from opposing teams, which functions the same way as a turnover.

01-04-2011, 07:40 PM	#18
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Too many games the Qb looks very comfortable in the pocket. Even when we blitz there isn't enough pressure. When you have this problem corner backs tend to get embarrassed a lot. Ever notice that when opposing QBs do have run out of the pocket the only one chasing them is Will Smith?