What do you think of Sean Payton moving to Dallas?
 

So it appears as though much hay has been made over Sean Payton wanting to raise his family in North Texas and not New Orleans. Here is my take on the matter: Sean Payton is the best thing that ever happened to the New Orleans Saints and I think that we as fans would be silly to alienate him over wanting to raise his family somewhere else. Three playoff runs out of five years as head coach and a Super Bowl victory to boot automatically make him one of the very best coaches in the NFL today.

We must also keep in mind that Sean Payton lived in Dallas for three years before arriving in New Orleans and even inquired about keeping his home base in Dallas when he was negotiating for the Saints' post. I say this: as long as he remains effective as our head coach, who are we to criticize him over where he wants to raise his family?

[QUOTE=ClintSaints;284562]So it appears as though much hay has been made over Sean Payton wanting to raise his family in North Texas and not New Orleans. Here is my take on the matter: Sean Payton is the best thing that ever happened to the New Orleans Saints and I think that we as fans would be silly to alienate him over wanting to raise his family somewhere else. Three playoff runs out of five years as head coach and a Super Bowl victory to boot automatically make him one of the very best coaches in the NFL today.


CLINT, i don't disagree with u at all i voted it bothered me because i know the end is near, 1,2,3, years who knows but its coming and the man loves challenges and he will find another one coming soon. and i would back anyone up who would like to better them selves in any job market.

I think his wife liked Dallas better than New Orleans

Scott van Pelt made a great observation on his show today. There are no state taxes in Texas. If he maintains a Texas based home as a primary residence (ie. kids in school and such) his tax savings would be huge.

He still has to pay Louisiana Income Tax due his employer being located in Louisiana.

I doubt he's leaving the Saints anytime soon. Maybe when the Saints championship window closes he leaves for a front office job in Dallas, but the Saints window is a long way from being over,

Look, I love Louisiana. Most of my family are native to the State. But I can only take so much of NOLA. No offense to the current folks who reside there. However, if you didn't grow up there, it's a little much to deal with.

Actually, his employer is incorporated in Texas.

New Orleans Saints Football in Metairie, LA is a private company categorized under Football Clubs. Our records show it was established in 1985 and incorporated in Texas. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $20 to 50 million and employs a staff of approximately 100 to 249.

I would think a loop-hole most likely appears if the corporation you work for is incorporated Texas and your principal residence is Texas. It has been several years since I studied tax law, but there is probably a very defensible precedent.

I read elsewhere that since the check is cut in Louisiana, it counts as Louisiana income. Not sure if thats correct, but its what I read.

Checks can be cut anywhere. Many corporations outsource payroll services. Workers in Colorado, commuting from Wyoming, could be getting paid working for a Michigan firm with payments coming from a California bank on checks generated at a New Jersey human resources firm.

Lots of gray involved.

Actually hold the phone.

There maybe more to the story that isn't out yet. From what I am hearing it isn't pretty either.

Possible cheating incident by Sean and the wife may have left for Dallas already. Sean trying to fix things and getting her a house and all.

Uh-oh.

That would definitely explain things.

Why is everyone putting forth this "cheating" story without any evidence whatsoever! I have seen this on different blogs but without ANY PROOF! Until we have some solid evidence, can we please refrain from peddling this gossip?

Who are you referring to?

It was on a website, and all anyone did here is speculate whether its true or not.

No one is peddling gossip.

Just found this Danno but this thing will shake out soon.

Sean Payton

I hope this is not true. I wanted to post my brief suspicion :brood: about this yesterday, but thought, nah. That is a negative, people would not like thatkind of post and I would get penalized by the moderators for posting that. Some thoughts, as the saying goes, are better just left as a thought in your head and keep it there.
I wondered if he was "stepping out." Some guys, when will some of them learn, happy home, happy wife gives them a happy life.
Concentrate on career. Avoid chaos and scandal. Good deal.

Lots of speculation there, but again no hard facts. The "cheating" story makes absolutely no sense whatsoever because Sean Payton isn't going to go buy a big expensive house for his wife in a tony North Texas neighborhood if there's uncertainty in the relationship.

Perhaps this is exactly what the Saints' organization is saying it is: That Payton's family prefers to live in North Texas and Sean is committed to being the Saints' head coach for years to come. I mean how much sense would it make for Sean Payton - Super Bowl winning head coach - to go and take a "front office job" in Dallas on the off chance that someday he might possibly get a crack at coaching a team which hasn't been in a Super Bowl in over 15 years?

Rumors,all rumors and gossip for now. If there is any truth, yeah, you are right,time will tell.

:rolleyes:

Heard a rumor we're getting the Cowboys' entire 2011 Draft and DeMarcus Ware and trading Sean Payton, his "retirement" home in Dallas and our hosting rights to the next SuperBowl...

Goodell brokered the deal as Jerry Jones is just devastated that he had the best coach on his staff and let 'em geaux to the Saints and that his Superbowl was not praised like those hosted in New Orleans...

Jerry Jones is a ****...

IDC where he lives.

I have heard so much vitriol thrown Payton's way it disgusts me. 'Yeah, I'm gonna burn his book. He's betrayed us!' What a bunch of sad, petty morons. I thought the Black and Gold were stronger than that and that we would wait until things developed before any public burnings. If the man wants to get a place in Dallas for his family, let him. It has disappointed me and I am not even from America let alone New Orleans, but let's wait until facts come out before pouring all of this hate on the guy. I love New Orleans and miss it when I can't get to it but have no idea what it would be like to live there or raise a family but I do know this; if it was a choice of family and Dallas home or New Orleans but you're on your own?! No contest. The man can still be a great coach and still lead this team to another Superbowl but it would be good for him to know that as long as he is a coach for the New Orleans Saints, the best fans in the world will be behind him 100%. Here endeth the lesson.

How do Rumors get started...
They're started by the jealous people...
And they get mad about somethin they had...
and somebody else is holdin...

I certainly hope all is well in the Payton home.
Moving to Dallas wouldnt make sense to me, if this is the case.
This would only have them separated more.

I wouldnt live in any city, if I had a choice. I'd be in a swamp somewhere.
But I cant imagine not being able to find a nice place on the Northshore, or somewhere in the country.

I need more info, before I know what to think here.

He can live where he wants. The Saints organization did the right thing by saying that they were fine with his change of location.

what else would they do?

Keep winning.

According to his book, he was living on the north shore, in Mandeville.
I used to work in Mandeville, and had to travel around town a LOT. It's a very nice town. In a lot of ways, it's the mirror image of New Orleans, in that everything is the opposite. I love New Orleans, but I could see why someone wouldn't want to live there. However, Mandeville is very "sterile" in comparison. Maybe it was just too quiet for the Payton's...

Wasn't the entire "cheating" story started by one person - at Terezowens.com? Then, it seems this story reverberated throughout the echo chamber that is the internet. Soon, people were saying "I saw it on a number of blogs," when really it was just one person making totally unsubstantiated remarks on one gossip site. Maybe Terez Owens just really hates the New Orleans Saints.

Where there's smoke...

Somebody farted? :mrgreen:

I think this is just stupid. Who cares where he lives.
I really hope none of ya really are bothered with this. Just passing time till the season starts i hope.

There are only a few things we should be worried about with this move:

1. If his family just moved because they wanted to eventually relocate there, but in the long run it becomes a distraction and hurts the franchise.

2. If there are "personal" issues between he and his wife, and it affects his coaching duties which in turn hurts the team.

3. If he does decide to leave the Saints and takes a job with the Cowboys.

If he can still effectively coach the Saints and keep them winning, then I don't care if he lives in Dallas, Denver, Budapest, or Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory after finding a golden ticket.

This!

He also still owns a home in La. I'm not sure about Dallas but here in Houston the property taxes are high. At the end of the day he's not saving any money just creating more expense, especially with flying back and forth. The only thing I can imagine going through his head is that he's positioning himself for the Cowboys position. I think he knows Garrett will have limited success and the job will be his for the taking and a huge salary increase.

The property taxes in Texas is higher than Louisiana so actually with the combined taxes it will cost him more of his salary to live in Texas. But it doesn't bother me that he wants to move back to the Dallas area. His family gave Louisana a shot but I guess his wife is more high maintenance than what Mandeville could offer. That golfing community in Dallas is pretty swanky.

The taxes are higher but not as many politicians end up in jail.

At least Coach P didn't buy a home in Atlanta.

:/

Florida or Texas are the choice of many people with a lot of cash.
NO STATE TAXES.

Duh. Go figure he'd buy a house in Upper Mexico... but Dallas? Hurl.
I'd of picked Austin... but I'm biased.

Just curious, how much of an increase will his property taxes be, and how much of a decrease will he receive in not paying State taxes?

if mickey sez it's ok then it's ok

well put Ashley and QBREES9 its nothing to worry over at all. read Sean's book. besides after he is done coaching the SAINTS he will more likely go work for espn Monday night football with Chucky.

Really doesn't matter at all. I understand his concern being he has kids starting to come up in age. I grew up in New Orleans and have since relocated because my wife and I had kids. It's not exactly a family freindly environment. No offense to anyone, it's just my opinion. In the end, it's simply none of our business where a man decides to locate his family. Enjoy our success while Payton is here and if he happens to go then I will wish him luck. After all, he and the Saints provided me with some of the best memories of my life.

Well said, and only 7 posts? Nice job!