Shanle Must Go!!!!!!
 

So much so, that I would start the 24th overall pick on game 1 vs letting Scotty Mistackles play another down as a starter. How the hell long is Vilma career gonna last if he gotta play 2 positions, DL to me is now a second round or free agent concern. We need a OLB from the 1st round!!!!!!

We could stand to upgrade no doubt, but I don't think he's as bad as so many make him out to be. The coaches certainly don't either, but I'm sure they'd be happy to upgrade that position if possible.

09 Shanle, was behind the depth chart to Scott Fujita, who was scheduled to be released..... He's not good, he's a hussler. But he not getting to the qb, and now he aint even husslin.

Ask Mashawn lynch who had the first shot on him on that 65 yard touchdown run that sealed our season. He probably can't tell you, but I can. Tapes don't lie.

Like I said, the position could be upgraded, but I don't think he's a bad as most people believe him to be, and the coaches appear to agree with me. Besides, there's more than enough blame to go around for the Seattle game and the run about which you speak. You're right. Tapes don't lie.

Shanle has served his purpose. He's not the best but by no means the worst.

Don't forget, Shanle was to play the SLB and Casillas was going to play WLB. After Casillas got hurt Shanle reclaimed the WLB spot. We didn't really have a SLB step up on this team.

But IMHO I think he's the weakest link among our starting defense, and most of the other LB's we have are best suited for WLB as well.

The problem is that no one stepped up and claimed his position, which means that Shanle is better than everyone else not named Vilma.

I did notice that Dunbar looked really good at times, but looked lost in some other games.

I'm all for new blood at OLB, in fact I'd like to see 2 or 3 new faces on the 53.

i agree. he is actually really good, but just slow as heck. We do need an upgrade badly. keep shan as a backup and st

I would worry about the other OLB spot first.

Oh I was hoping Cas would be taking that when he hopefully stays healthy

Don't know what film you're watching; but Shanle isn't the problem...

The weakest link on a healthy Saints D first squad is SS Roman Harper...

If anything Shanle is usually coming from otherside to assist blown assignments...

Shanle looks bad because he does play for style points; he plays to win...

Which is why he got more gameballs in 2010 than any other player on defense?

Harper is one of our best players on defense, and Gregg Williams agrees.

Originally Posted by alleycat_126
So much so, that I would start the 24th overall pick on game 1 vs letting Scotty Mistackles play another down AS A STARTER. How the hell long is Vilma career gonna last if he gotta play 2 positions, DL to me is now a second round or free agent concern. We need a OLB from the 1st round!!!!!!

YOUR QUOTE!!!!
We could stand to upgrade no doubt, but I don't think he's as bad as so many make him out to be. The coaches certainly don't either, but I'm sure they'd be happy to upgrade that position if possible.

We are saying the same thing, and yes he is the weakest link on the chain, Harper actually does make plays. what was he smokin!!!! Anyways Shanle is always at or around the right spot, but to slow and sometimes even not strong enough to make the play. Frustrating to watch. I wasn't trying to argue whether or not he should or should not be on the team, more than likely he will. I know you get that idea from the title I apologize. It should read Shanle Must Go, Back to the bench. He was much more affective coming in off the bench than starting. It was more about the fact that to me the emphasis of this draft, which is DE heavy should be placed more on that OLB spot than DE.

I'm more interested in a game changing DE than an OLB. I agree that we can use an upgrade out there, but it's not exactly that big of a hole on defense. Shanle by no means is a world beater, but contrary to many... he's a solid football player. Capable starter... quality backup which is where he's better suited at this stage in his career. He does get a lot of unnecessary flack from our fans... he was the best we had. We did also finish the season with a top ranked defense with a "crappy" OLB and average DE in Alex Brown. Honestly if Shanle were to start next year... though not ideal, I think we'll be okay.

GW says ...

I would much rather us get a DE/ DT with the first pick we need a PASS RUSHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAD !

Yep, I'm all for the BPA at DE/DT/LB.

I could live with an offensive player if he's rated significantly higher than anyone else left at pick 24 (RB, OT, WR, TE etc).

Watching Scott Shanle reaching out for the ball carrier and not quite getting there is frustrating as can be. He's always just out of the play. I don't know if it's blown coverage, lack of speed or what but he just doesn't seem to get to the action on time. We do have LBers that were on IR last year that should help.

Shock Post... Watch it... are you trying to insight a riot?

isnt casillas suppose to have jets?? I mean, shanle biggest problem is his lack of speed..

I would have kept Scott Fujita and released Scott Shanle he has been the week link since he's been with Saints; Do I foresee a Shanle must go thread

the difference in a 5.0 and a 5.4 is a step which equals just out of reach which means missed tackle which mens getting hammered by fans. i personally like the guy but i did see him just miss lots of big time stops. like he was almost there. but in no way is he a bad player.

Both Shanle and Fujita needed to upgraded. Both are merely average NFL LB's.

If Fujita was still here we'd be saying the exact same things about him as we are Shanle. In fact, we were saying it about both before Fujita left.

That is very true. People were dogging on Fujita quite a bit, up until I dunno, the '09 streak got to 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 games in a row, then it quieted down A LOT. Then when Fujita left, it was like he was suddenly everybody's favorite player or something. But he's merely average.

One aspect of the Gregg Williams D thing is, you can plug average to good players in there, and it should WORK. It doesn't require a lot of superstars. Most times, when it breaks down or doesn't work (like the one big long groan-inducing running play, that people seemed to get against us every game in 2009) it's usually because somebody individually screwed up their assignment, messed up their mission on that play, or wasn't where they were supposed to be -- it's not really because somebody got manhandled or totally whupped athletically by the other team, all day long (not counting Harper in Seattle, which was ugly). I mean. other than days when there's tons of sloppy tackling, I don't feel like Shanle, or any starter on our defense, has been totally outclassed physically, week after week after week. It's more like, a "that dude has got to do better" kind of a thing. Even if they don't replace Shanle, I bet some healthy competition for his spot would probably improve things.

i agree totally.

i tuned to the nfl net. yesterday and they where showing guess who seattle and the bolts. i watched clemons (seattles) de just give phillip leafriver fits all game. he has speed around the corner like nothing we've seen from smith in a long time. it made me want a de pic in the draft even more, just my opinion. olb is just as important too!

I have been one of the guys on Shanle's butt. However, I watched replays and targeted just Scott. Like JP said, I noticed him playing the position and not playing for style or highlight time on sportscenter. If Scott is anything, he's dependable.

As far as him missing tackles, I would like to see the list of Defensive players that never or have never missed a tackle.