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The Fujitas - "The game that used and abused them"
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Wow, I certainly wish I could CHOOSE to be abused like that. I thought the Fujita's were all about CHOICE. Did Scotty not have a CHOICE? I Guess the PRO LIFE has them a bit bitter nowadays. If only they'd had a CHOICE in the matter. What a couple of hypocrites. I'm so glad that moron's gone. |
I don't care lady. My Daddy was a soldier. That "scotty" hurt hims wittle knee, well, I just don't give a damn. How 'bout that?
Somebody pimp-slap that ho. :brood: |
If my wife wrote that I would leave her.
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More attempt for player sympathy.
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Cause I'm the Honey Badger, and I don't give a F*C* |
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This disgusts me. |
Snap outta your little privileged world Ms. Priss - there are REAL problems in this world.
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It is very hard for me to feel sorry for theses guys.
I am a 18 year Army Vet. Just a list of my medical issues. Right knee: 80% cartalidge GONE. Begining stages of athritus. Left knee: bone grinding on bone. Arthritus. Spine: L3, L4 and L5 disk all press on my syatic nerve. Back muscle: Tore the muscle that goes from your butt to your middle back, darn near in half. Right and Left Shoulders: both need rotator surgury. I can't play with my kids too long because something is going to start hurting. The most pain is trying to get out of bed in the morning. I am only 38 years old. Now, my wife doesn't blame the Army. She and I, understand that it's just part of the job. Some may say, "Well, you get doctors care when you retire". Yes, I do. Until I am dead and in the grave. However, I, just like every Soldier out there; doesn't make $150,000 to $1 million plus a year. So, dear Ms Fujita...... stop your whining. Stop living like you have a money tree and oh yeah.....Scott left US for MORE MONEY! Sorry all he got from the New Orleans Saints was the megar honor of being a SuperBowl Champion. (MiddleFinger) |
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Obviously, some are going to feel the need to reach out for public sympathy. This is the dumbest thing they could possibly do, and it would play straight into the hands of the owners. At this point, I already sympathize with the average player. I know what its like to run till you puke, to break bones, and to study and work out and practice, and not get enough sleep. I know what its like to deal with pain every day. I'm 46. At this point, I like the players, they're still my heroes, and I'm willing to ignore whatever happens in this labor deal, so I can continue to like them. (This is your season ticket holder talking.) I also sympathize with Tom Benson. I know what its like to be poor. I know what its like to sweep floors, and do menial work all hours of the day, trying to make something of yourself. Nobody handed this guy a silver spoon, and he didnt just wake up with a money tree in his yard. He worked his a** off. And then he invested in the NFL scheme. Players, I dont know how much you make, and I dont care. I do care that your future is secure, and that you will be taken care of when you're old, although the responsibility for that is actually yours. I spend a lot of money to watch you play, a lot of time following the game, and buy lots of stuff, which in turn pays you. Im not your boss, and I dont even consider myself a "customer," but you are, in fact, rich, because of people like me. Because we care. Ask minor league hockey players if its good that people care. The dumbest thing you can do is anything that will villify EITHER side in this. The propaganda you preach will outlast the dispute itselt, and serve only to damage the game as a whole. The smartest thing you can do is smile and STFU. At this point, you're on top. Even if you lose this, you're still gonna win. Dont blow it. And Honeybadger dont give a sh**. |
Torn Ligament - $40,000
Concussion - $60,000 Staph infection and five days in the hospital - $200,000 Eating an Oreo faster than Payton Manning - Priceless |
Wow, I'm really surprised by the hostility that is shown here towards football players. Astounding. The fact is, Scott Fujita DID help the Saints get their first Super Bowl. Seems like everyone here would rather put douchebags like Tom Benson on a pedestal and trash the players who brought us the Lombardi - the same players who are simply trying to get decent healthcare and a better salary - as anyone would in this situation. How many of YOU have actually played in the NFL? Of course, none of you have.
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I'll bet you money, Drew remembers the importance of diplomacy, and the court of public opinion. How many great players eventually fell, because the public could not embrace them? (Randy Moss wants to know.) better to keep silent. I remember '87. |
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I dont know your age, but without Benson, the Saints would be owned by a guy named A.N. Pritzker, and they'd be playing in Chicago. (google -1985) I stand by my statement that Benson worked for what he has. Quote:
You did catch this post, right? (below) "At this point, I already sympathize with the average player. I know what its like to run till you puke, to break bones, and to study and work out and practice, and not get enough sleep. I know what its like to deal with pain every day. At this point, I like the players, they're still my heroes..." Quote:
Im guessing when you make a million dollars, Blue-Cross Blue Shield isnt really that big a chip out of your budget. They already have better insurance and healthcare than you or me. Bear in mind, I'm already sympathetic to their pension needs, only because I know a lot of people are too dumb to save and invest for the future, on their own. Personally, healthcare & retirement is not a right of mine, nor a responsibility of my employer, but rather an added bonus. It is my responsibility to plan, save, & invest. (I am both poor and a minority.) If I have cable tv, tickets to the game, a flat screen, and a weight problem, chances are, I can afford an insurance premium. I dont even need to address the salary statement. Quote:
Probably most of your Gulf Coast posters here, myself included, played football in school. For free. The hits were real, and so was the running. I aint mad at you. I just disagree. And I think you're stating your side from the wrong angle. Nobody's going to buy that players are downtrodden or exploited, especially when you bring in "salary." Attack this instead from the angle that there is a 9 billion dollar piece of dessert that the owners dont seem to want to share. There's your argument. Also note that we are nearly unanimous in disagreement with the owners proposed 18 game schedule. We pretty much all hate the idea. |
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it took me a minute beast....good response!
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Someone please take away her iPhone
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Having grown up with two family members playing in the NFL, I have seen the damage it does to the body. My Uncle played in the 70's when he had to work an off-season job just to pay the bills.
Lost him a year ago to cancer. But, he was not able to move around without a cane and had all kinds of problems with joints, bones, back, etc. He started using a cane when he was 41. He knew the risk that he took, but he played because he loved the game. His wife, my aunt, was aware of the risk to, but she did not realize the effects it would have on him after he played. Now I have another member of my family playing in the NFL. He makes much more money than my uncle did and he to is aware of the risk. He loves the game, but recently had his second child and is seriously thinking about hanging them up. He is not a superstar and he has been in the league for 7 years, but to watch him try and go up the stairs and play chase with his son is tough. I don't side with either the owners or the players, both make enough money to satisfy anyone. But, I do side with the families. Yes, it is their choice to play, most of us would do the same (I would). If we start taking sides, we will all lose. Football will be back and we will be yelling "Who Dat!!!" come the fall. So let the money makers (owners/players) whine, complain, and do whatever makes them happy. Remember, when these Saints retire, most of the fans could care less what happens to them after their playing days, they will be cheering for another set of Saints on the field. |
I'm sorry. I'm not buying it. Is playing in the NFL tough? Nobody in their right mind would argue otherwise. Is it any more taxing on the body than a guy hauling logs for a living? Is it any more dangerous than crabbing in the Bering Sea? Hell, Strato has probably played some Saturday Night gigs that were more dangerous...
HELL NO IT IS NOT! The Players and their 'former' Union want us to hear about all the injuries and the sob stories, and I'm not being a hard ass to their plight, but GIVE ME AN EFFING BREAK. More former NFL Players live long, healthy lives after Football than don't, by a LONG shot. It ain't even close. They want us to hear about every nagging little injury such and such player 'suffers' with. Good God my Grandpa suffers worse from driving trucks and building houses his entire 80+ years and counting. Don't buy the hype people. Don't be a victim to clever marketing, and that's all this is. The players clearly have made tons of headway in their attempts to make everyone think playing in the NFL is the most dangerous job in the world. Bull****. Climb broadcast towers for a living. Work on a boat. Be a Policeman in Oakland or Detroit. Fight Fires. None of those men and women can even sniff the Cadillac plans the NFL players have, regardless of the CBA being enforced at the time. For heaven's sake they stop playing into Social Security with a percentage of their first check, for the year, even on the lowest NFL player salary. I know a few players and former players too. Kevin Mawae (we called him mowee in school) chief among them. It's crap. It's a ploy. They are playing on your heart strings. Don't be so damned gullible. Be more like the Honey Badger. He don't give a ****... |
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If the Fujita's feel this way, why doesn't Scott just retire? If you don't like your employer and this worried about health issues, be done. He's a smart guy, could find a nice job.
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The primary issue is money. I don't even know if health concerns were a tertiary issue.
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What I don't understand is this: With all the money these players make, they should be able to afford and should INVEST in a good health insurance policy. They don't have to rely on and they SHOULDN'T rely on team doctors to completely trust their bodies to.
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I just think it's weird that the players keep getting blamed for this.
From what I understand, there already WAS an agreement, and the owners opted to back out of it early. Now the players are being portrayed as greedy because they're not agreeing to a sudden new deal. I think of it like I agreed with payments to a car company for a car, and partway before my loan was up, they opted out of the contract, locked me out of my car, and told me I have to give them more money to be able to use it again. I know a job isn't a car, but still, there WAS already a contract in place! Fujita's wife aside, my sympathy still falls squarely with the players. And as for Benson... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater? Yeah. I got no sympapthy for that guy. None whatsoever. If it weren't for the NFL and the Commish, he would have done it, too. I dont' care HOW hard he had to work to get where he is. I never forget that if he'd've gotten what he wanted, they'd be the San Antonio Saints. I guess I'm just an oldschool bluecollar kinda gal. I side squarely with the Unions, the players, and the working man. Owners and management can all go to h#LL in my book. |
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The owners did NOT back out of a contract, they simply exercised a mutally agreed upon right to renegotiate. |
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I'm with you. When you agree with someone on something you stick to it. As Danno stated, the owners aren't doing anything that wasn't provided them in the contract. And I'm for old school Unions too, which is, sadly, not what most unions are today. Oh and Benson didn't want to move the team. He's one savvy old man. He got precisely what he wanted at the end of the day. Let's not forget his involvement in keeping the team in New Orleans to begin with. I'm old school too. There is right and there is wrong on both sides of this or any disagreement, but you can't simply disregard what Fujita's wife is saying. It's part of the ploy. It's part of the marketing. It's part of the effort by the players to make us think they go through hell and that they are not fairly compensated. They are MORE than fairly compensated even if you add two more games to their season (something I'm against by the way). At the end of the day, the owners own and the players play. I don't get to ask my boss to see the books. Neither do you. We'd both of us be out of a job if we did. |
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For the record, since you're new, I'll tell you this. If the Saints had moved to S.A, which is nearly 3 hours close to my house than New Orleans--- I would have quit the NFL forever. I'm dead serious. The reason we bought season tix was to do our part to keep them in N.O. I more blue collary than some people can stand, but I disagree about unions always being the working man's friend. --but its a good discussion. |
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The same Benson that fans wanted run out of town? Yea, I'd consider relocation too. |
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I mean, he couldn't come back to New Orleans right away. Some poor underpaid player could have been bitten by a rabid Honey Badger, and with limited medical facilities in N.O. at the time might have died. :mrgreen: |
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And so what if the player was bitten repeatedly by a rabid Honey Badger, Nasty*** Honey Badger don't give a ****. Funniest video I've seen in a while. |
When are the current players going to pony up for the former players?!?
If not, shut your pie holes, owners get the big cut because owners assume the risk... Free Enterprise not Socialism works; if you disagree, see European Countries seeking bail-outs... Look at the Auto Industry; $70/hour to operate a robotic-assist tool to bold truck beds to truck frames... The system was a little more than generous; but they should understand reasonable wages; save your money, investing no more than a third... But Ms Fujita just undid a ton of good work on the part of Scott with this pathetic letter... |
And you may very well be right. The commish may have saved the day. I guess we'll never know. We just have to move on, like the Honey Badger. :-)
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Dear Mrs. Fujita,
I loved and respected your husband while he played for our team, but he CHOSE to leave. He could have stayed with the team, but he chose to go somewhere else for more money. If he "loved our city" so much, he would have stayed, regardless of the cost. Regarding your letter: My brother is currently over in Afghanistan, fighting for his country. While your husband sleeps in a nice comfy bed, my brother goes without sleep. While your husband drives around in an expensive car, my brother drives around in a tank, risking the chance of being attacked. While your husband sits on his butt, *****ing about not working, my brother is in a war zone, wondering when he'll get to come home and see his family. I don't want to hear anymore NFL sob stories about how hard these guys have it. Until you put yourself in the position of our US Soldiers, then STFU. Also, quit whining and get a ****ing deal done so we can have football next year. Sincerely, Becky Boo (breesfan27) PS, this was totally not a sob story, and I'm not looking for any sympathy, I'm just sick of hearing how "bad" these multi-millionaires have it. As much as I love and respect our guys, I don't want to hear anymore *****ing and moaning. Get a deal done. |
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For all the interesting debate we're having, bear in mind, there doesnt necessarily have to be a good guy or a bad guy here. My children dont have a concept of how I put a roof over their head. They dont understand how bills get paid. Likewise, I wonder if the average fan appreciates how the Hunts, Halas'es, Rooneys, and yes, Bensons make this whole thing possible in the first place. My kids rage against the machine, not realizing without the machine, they'd be sleeping outside in the Gulf Coast heat without air conditioning. Benson screwed up big time after the Storm, and understandably, he'll never win some people back. I personally think he lost his mind after the Storm. I really do. But without Benson, we would have lost the Saints in '85. Benson hired Mickey Loomis & brought us Sean Payton. He also hired Jim Finks. And he stays the hell out of football operations, unlike Jerry & Al. If I didnt love the players, I wouldnt be on this site. I wouldnt drive 6 hours to N.O. to watch the games. or buy tix. or do training camp in MS. or have a Wall O' Saints for a hallway. My truck, wardrobe, and living room would look vastly different. I am consistently Reggie Bush's biggest apologist here, and also Devery Henderson's -- look it up. I cant stand to hear negative talk about any of my Saints, and dont participate in trade threads. I always like whoever plays for my team, except Dave Wilson & some kickers. I stood up for Richard Todd. Thought Ray Zellars was going to be the next "Bus." Still think Hebert is the most underrated QB in history. When somebody criticizes a players performance, I often feel like ClintSaints expressed-- "You cant play the game yourself, so STFU." And Im rabidly against an 18 game schedule. It would be brutal to players, who already deal with pain, injuries, and having to exercise twice a day in a way that would make you or me puke. I dont hate anyone for getting paid. I do disagree with the union's stance. The gravy should go to back to the ones who took the risk, maintain the expenses, and have to pay YOU. This is my job. This is what it pays. I am always free to look for another job, since my sport paid for my college education, and now I have a degree most people cant afford. If we're going to share the gravy, lets share it with the localities who built the stadium-- like Louisiana. Lets invest that gravy into a fund for former players who had to work offseason jobs. And lets invest that gravy for a rainy day, while the real world deals with tsunamis, war, & terror. Somebody smart said, yesterday, that if we stop loving the players, both sides lose. -- which takes me to Mrs. Brees'27s very relevant statement: Quote:
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