Saints Pick DE Cameron Jordan

04-28-2011, 11:34 PM

Holy crap... I just finish scanning all the picks in the first round. If we didn't draft another player in this draft, we still hit a homerun and grade out with an A in my book. Wow. Wow.

Mickey Loomis, you are overrated.

MorningWood · 04-28-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Holy crap... I just finish scanning all the picks in the first round. If we didn't draft another player in this draft, we still hit a homerun and grade out with an A in my book. Wow. Wow.

Mickey Loomis, you are overrated.

Overrated?

lumm0x · 04-28-2011, 11:42 PM

Hard to criticize this draft so far. Got probably the most NFL ready DE in the draft who excels at gap integrity and rush defense with a smattering of pass rush moves. Followed that up with the #1 RB who helps eliminate our stable of injured ball carrier rotations and gives us a position of leverage with Reggie and PT's contracts. Will get us back to more balanced offensively and become the 2 headed monster we were in the Super Bowl run. A+ so far guys.

darstep · 04-29-2011, 12:32 AM

A+ is right. I think Ingram is going to prove useful in more ways than one. INT's will go down, Brees' comp% will go up (not far to go), defense more rested. I love it.

papz · 04-29-2011, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by MorningWood

Overrated?

Yea I was being sarcastic. Someone called him one of the most overrated GM's in the NFL... Loomis is definitely showing his true colors with his terrible track record.

CheramieIII · 04-29-2011, 11:06 AM

This is a solid pick and good value at number 24. If Jordan wasn't there I still believe we would've taken Ingram, but we did at 28 so I guess it's OK.

Choupique · 04-29-2011, 03:59 PM

Our cornerbacks just got better due to that pick. They'll have an added edge with the addition of another ballistic d-linemen

Holy Chitlins the Saints staff rocks!

This season will be The Year of the Interceptions for our defense.
You heard it here. Record #'s.

iceshack149 · 04-30-2011, 12:38 AM

And we have no idea how well Shaun Rogers will play. He only started one game last season so a starting position isn't guaranteed and expectations should be low.

But maybe a change of scenery and Gregg Williams is what the big guy needs.
If so, this d-line would be sick.

the-commish · 04-30-2011, 01:28 PM

Cam Jordan, as far as a pass rusher is concerned, is basdically more of a second effort, never give up, coverage sack guy. Playing in a 3-4 at Cal, the OLBs would naturally get most of the sacks and pass pressures, but QB pressures are many times just as important as sacks (maybe more so, since pressure many time goads a QB into making bad decisions).

He has a variety of moves (bull rush, swim, spin, slap) which is what I thought separated him from Cameron Heyward (drafted several picks later by the Steelers), who is basically one-dimensional. And Cam Jordan is a beast against the run. He is a complete DE who doesn't sell out against the run to try to get to the QB, and vice versa.

Rugby Saint II · 04-30-2011, 02:55 PM

Cameron Jordan is going to help change the face of the front four. Ellis is going to have a highly motivated DT next to him which will elevate his game. Will Smith will be gone for the first four games and should come back with a fire like he did in '09. Throw the rookie in the mix and our front four could be very very scary which could take some pressure of the LBers. I could easily see a complete turn around in the front four.

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04-29-2011, 08:07 AM	#15
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,740	Originally Posted by MorningWood Overrated? Yea I was being sarcastic. Someone called him one of the most overrated GM's in the NFL... Loomis is definitely showing his true colors with his terrible track record.

04-29-2011, 03:59 PM	#17
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Our cornerbacks just got better due to that pick. They'll have an added edge with the addition of another ballistic d-linemen Holy Chitlins the Saints staff rocks! This season will be The Year of the Interceptions for our defense. You heard it here. Record #'s.
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04-28-2011, 11:42 PM	#13
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Hard to criticize this draft so far. Got probably the most NFL ready DE in the draft who excels at gap integrity and rush defense with a smattering of pass rush moves. Followed that up with the #1 RB who helps eliminate our stable of injured ball carrier rotations and gives us a position of leverage with Reggie and PT's contracts. Will get us back to more balanced offensively and become the 2 headed monster we were in the Super Bowl run. A+ so far guys.

04-29-2011, 12:32 AM	#14
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	A+ is right. I think Ingram is going to prove useful in more ways than one. INT's will go down, Brees' comp% will go up (not far to go), defense more rested. I love it.

04-29-2011, 11:06 AM	#16
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,486 Blog Entries: 3	This is a solid pick and good value at number 24. If Jordan wasn't there I still believe we would've taken Ingram, but we did at 28 so I guess it's OK.

04-30-2011, 12:38 AM	#18
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,241 Blog Entries: 1	And we have no idea how well Shaun Rogers will play. He only started one game last season so a starting position isn't guaranteed and expectations should be low. But maybe a change of scenery and Gregg Williams is what the big guy needs. If so, this d-line would be sick.

04-30-2011, 01:28 PM	#19
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	Cam Jordan, as far as a pass rusher is concerned, is basdically more of a second effort, never give up, coverage sack guy. Playing in a 3-4 at Cal, the OLBs would naturally get most of the sacks and pass pressures, but QB pressures are many times just as important as sacks (maybe more so, since pressure many time goads a QB into making bad decisions). He has a variety of moves (bull rush, swim, spin, slap) which is what I thought separated him from Cameron Heyward (drafted several picks later by the Steelers), who is basically one-dimensional. And Cam Jordan is a beast against the run. He is a complete DE who doesn't sell out against the run to try to get to the QB, and vice versa.

04-30-2011, 02:55 PM	#20
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Cameron Jordan is going to help change the face of the front four. Ellis is going to have a highly motivated DT next to him which will elevate his game. Will Smith will be gone for the first four games and should come back with a fire like he did in '09. Throw the rookie in the mix and our front four could be very very scary which could take some pressure of the LBers. I could easily see a complete turn around in the front four.