Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!!

SaintFan23 · 12-15-2003, 12:08 AM

I\'ll have to agree with Billy. Our receivers definately stepped up today. Donte showed us the big play ability he can bring. I still think that incompletion at the sideline early in the game was a catch. If only he can stay healthy. And Pathon\'s touchdown was one of the best catches I\'ve seen in awhile.

saintz08 · 12-15-2003, 12:11 AM

But Horn\'s act was still WWF material and doesn\'t belong on the field.

Most likely any comparison in my mind to the WWF is simply because of the fact it took 3 Saints to find the phone .

I assume this is the same Horn I watched a few weeks back , have to be helped off the field time and time again by fellow teammates after making key acrobatic receptions in a game .

Had he done it at an away game , I might be more inclined to judge . This was done at home in front of his home team fans .

lumm0x · 12-15-2003, 12:12 AM

Yeah, they all had their share of stick-em tonight. I was a fine performance all around. We really need Carolina to lose today. Now we need Dallas to drop the next one and Seattle as well.

deadflatbird · 12-15-2003, 08:28 AM

I didn\'t laugh... I love Horn but it wasn\'t funny or original. \"Be original\", and back it up with catching balls not dropping them all season. Maybe the monkey is off his back now but when it looks like a ass kicking don\'t humiliate them more. If it was a close game I\'d say ok but be original. It wasn\'t better than the sharpie pen nor did it equal it either.

nocloning · 12-15-2003, 03:27 PM

If you heard his remarks after the game to ESPN, it doesn\'t sound so bad. He said he knew his kids and his mom were watching at home and said that if he scored he\'d break out the cell phone.

That explanation actually makes it worse. What annoys me about a celebration like this is you show disrespect for your opponent. The Lambeau Leap may not be an act of spontaneous celebration anymore, it\'s just something you have to do when you score a TD, but getting props ready for after the TD catch - that\'s taking it too far. It basically says: You suck so bad I KNEW I was going to score on you. And Joe even goes one up on this and says that he would call his kids after the SECOND touchdown. Great sportsmanship against a team which has been hit hard by injuries. Who was supposed to cover him on that play? A seventh round rookie or something?
Unnecessary, that\'s what I\'d call it.
Some might disagree and say he added some excitement and controversy, but I still believe Marvin Hagler won his last fight against Sugar Ray Leonard. Just not a fan of the overly flashy.

Cassady37 · 12-15-2003, 04:16 PM

I think it was a classless act on Horns\' part. Is that what you really want to teach kids at every level of play? And don\'t say it doesn\'t effect peewee football because those kids want to emulate everything the big guys do. Not only did he burn his opponent on the play but then let\'s humiliate him on national T.V. Wrong anyway you look at it. And not that it would make it right but where was all theses shannigans against any team we played that was half-way decent? No where because the only humiliation on the field on those days was Horn dropping the damn ball. Show some class please and don\'t degrade the sport any worst than it is.

saintz08 · 12-15-2003, 05:26 PM

Funny thing about these classless acts and those that perform them .

Ditka - gives fans the bird .
Deion Sanders - only in it for the money and his celebration dancing .
Meshawn Johnson - calling the coaches out and his spoiled antics .
Sapp - his sapp dance through the lines .

What do they all have in common ??

They are all commentators after the incidents .........

BlackandBlue · 12-15-2003, 07:17 PM

At first, I wasn\'t onboard with what happened. I hate T. Owens with a passion, but my hate for him goes back, over multiple offenses. As far as Horn is concerned, eh, that was the first time I\'ve seen any swagger out of this team this entire lackluster year. And as far as the opponents are concerned, I could care less if an NFL player is too thin skinned. If it were to happen in college, then yes, I would be pretty pissed off. But to feel sorry for a player that is going to earn more in two years then I will see in my lifetime, not going to see any sympathy from me.

BillyC · 12-15-2003, 07:54 PM

Suddenly it seems that New Orleans has the classiest fans in the world. It\'s ok the jump in the stands or do a premeditated group celebation, but pull a cell phone out and you will be a classless SOB. Of course, punch someone in the face and you\'re TOUGH. Probably the bagheads that are upset.

[Edited on 16/12/2003 by BillyC]

tcv · 12-15-2003, 08:20 PM

Although I found it funny, I have to side on the \"classless\" side. I\'m basing my comments on what\'s being said up here in New England. The lines are lit up about how the Pats are about TEAM vs. individual achievement. This is pretty much true although they have their troubles with celebrations at times, too.

Up here, they\'re calling for Haslett to sit Horn out next week. They say Parcells would do it. Probably so. I doubt Haslett will.

And Sapp\'s dance is just ... ahm ... bizarre.

12-15-2003, 12:08 AM	#21
SaintFan23 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 8	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! I\'ll have to agree with Billy. Our receivers definately stepped up today. Donte showed us the big play ability he can bring. I still think that incompletion at the sideline early in the game was a catch. If only he can stay healthy. And Pathon\'s touchdown was one of the best catches I\'ve seen in awhile.

12-15-2003, 12:11 AM	#22
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! But Horn\'s act was still WWF material and doesn\'t belong on the field. Most likely any comparison in my mind to the WWF is simply because of the fact it took 3 Saints to find the phone . I assume this is the same Horn I watched a few weeks back , have to be helped off the field time and time again by fellow teammates after making key acrobatic receptions in a game . Had he done it at an away game , I might be more inclined to judge . This was done at home in front of his home team fans .
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12-15-2003, 12:12 AM	#23
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! Yeah, they all had their share of stick-em tonight. I was a fine performance all around. We really need Carolina to lose today. Now we need Dallas to drop the next one and Seattle as well.

12-15-2003, 08:28 AM	#24
deadflatbird 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 255	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! I didn\'t laugh... I love Horn but it wasn\'t funny or original. \"Be original\", and back it up with catching balls not dropping them all season. Maybe the monkey is off his back now but when it looks like a ass kicking don\'t humiliate them more. If it was a close game I\'d say ok but be original. It wasn\'t better than the sharpie pen nor did it equal it either.

12-15-2003, 03:27 PM	#25
nocloning 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 302	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! If you heard his remarks after the game to ESPN, it doesn\'t sound so bad. He said he knew his kids and his mom were watching at home and said that if he scored he\'d break out the cell phone. That explanation actually makes it worse. What annoys me about a celebration like this is you show disrespect for your opponent. The Lambeau Leap may not be an act of spontaneous celebration anymore, it\'s just something you have to do when you score a TD, but getting props ready for after the TD catch - that\'s taking it too far. It basically says: You suck so bad I KNEW I was going to score on you. And Joe even goes one up on this and says that he would call his kids after the SECOND touchdown. Great sportsmanship against a team which has been hit hard by injuries. Who was supposed to cover him on that play? A seventh round rookie or something? Unnecessary, that\'s what I\'d call it. Some might disagree and say he added some excitement and controversy, but I still believe Marvin Hagler won his last fight against Sugar Ray Leonard. Just not a fan of the overly flashy.
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12-15-2003, 04:16 PM	#26
Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! I think it was a classless act on Horns\' part. Is that what you really want to teach kids at every level of play? And don\'t say it doesn\'t effect peewee football because those kids want to emulate everything the big guys do. Not only did he burn his opponent on the play but then let\'s humiliate him on national T.V. Wrong anyway you look at it. And not that it would make it right but where was all theses shannigans against any team we played that was half-way decent? No where because the only humiliation on the field on those days was Horn dropping the damn ball. Show some class please and don\'t degrade the sport any worst than it is.

12-15-2003, 05:26 PM	#27
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! Funny thing about these classless acts and those that perform them . Ditka - gives fans the bird . Deion Sanders - only in it for the money and his celebration dancing . Meshawn Johnson - calling the coaches out and his spoiled antics . Sapp - his sapp dance through the lines . What do they all have in common ?? They are all commentators after the incidents .........
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12-15-2003, 07:17 PM	#28
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! At first, I wasn\'t onboard with what happened. I hate T. Owens with a passion, but my hate for him goes back, over multiple offenses. As far as Horn is concerned, eh, that was the first time I\'ve seen any swagger out of this team this entire lackluster year. And as far as the opponents are concerned, I could care less if an NFL player is too thin skinned. If it were to happen in college, then yes, I would be pretty pissed off. But to feel sorry for a player that is going to earn more in two years then I will see in my lifetime, not going to see any sympathy from me.
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12-15-2003, 07:54 PM	#29
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! Suddenly it seems that New Orleans has the classiest fans in the world. It\'s ok the jump in the stands or do a premeditated group celebation, but pull a cell phone out and you will be a classless SOB. Of course, punch someone in the face and you\'re TOUGH. Probably the bagheads that are upset. [Edited on 16/12/2003 by BillyC]
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12-15-2003, 08:20 PM	#30
tcv Rookie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3	Joe Horn 1up's Terrell Owens!! Although I found it funny, I have to side on the \"classless\" side. I\'m basing my comments on what\'s being said up here in New England. The lines are lit up about how the Pats are about TEAM vs. individual achievement. This is pretty much true although they have their troubles with celebrations at times, too. Up here, they\'re calling for Haslett to sit Horn out next week. They say Parcells would do it. Probably so. I doubt Haslett will. And Sapp\'s dance is just ... ahm ... bizarre.
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