Most Overated Saint, Most Underrated Saint

Crusader · 06-11-2011, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Overrated - Roman Harper (You can geaux to a ProBowl and still be caught from behind by a QB not named Vick?!?)

Underrated - Carl Nicks (With Jahri Evans slacking, he is the best OL, in the League); Malcolm Jenkins (though I'd wanted to draft Matthews, this guy is really getting ready to launch to the next level)

Underappreciated - Scott Shanle (Watch the Film, Gumbys)

Misunderstood - Reginald Alfred "Reggie" Bush II (With all the bashing, expectations have come back down to Planet Houston, Return of the Jedi Time)

Overpaid - Nah, Not Gonna Geaux There

I agree with most everything you said. Shanle is no worldbeater but better than what folks believe. I really hope Stinch gets back to form this year or he might get pushed aside by Charlie Brown.

dizzle88 · 06-11-2011, 07:25 AM

We still need an upgrade over shanle though, hopefully casillas takes his spot and martez Wilson gets the other starting spot.
Shanle is very average, however all i can remember is him getting torched so much in the super bowl that roman harper had to cover Dallas Clark eventually.

hitta · 06-11-2011, 11:29 AM

Overrated: Roman Harper
Underrated: Carl Nicks

RaginCajun83 · 06-11-2011, 12:26 PM

Overrated: Roman Harper, Stinchcomb, Bushrod

Underrated: Nicks, Moore, Jenkins

Danno · 06-11-2011, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Overrated: Roman Harper, Stinchcomb, Bushrod

Underrated: Nicks, Moore, Jenkins

How is Bushrod overrated? Nearly everyone thinks he's the weak link among the O-line and probably our worst starter on offense.

Is it because he's even worse than sucks?

CantonLegend · 06-11-2011, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

than call me a funny guy. last year he was terrible. he was outplayed by bushrod. he was consistently getting beat every game. he had about 3-4 good seasons and started declining last year. hopefully for the sake of the team he is better this year, but if you think he had a good season last year you might be blind.

I'd love for you to teach me one thing about linemen that I dont already know. I make a point to watch them every game and I talk about them more than anyone else for a reason. Telling me that he stunk is like sayin Bigfoot exists cuz you have absolutely no proof to backup your ridiculous claims. In fact most of the accusations against him are based on a misguided notion that the entire line regressed but if you actually do the math you'll see the line did just as well as the previous seasons. I'm afraid ppl are too cautious to place the blame on the ppl that are really at fault.... Drew and Payton

TheDeuce · 06-11-2011, 05:54 PM

Overrated: Stinchcomb, Mount Cody (not a Saint, but way overrated)
Underrated: Colston. This cat has never made a Pro Bowl? Ridiculous. He's never mentioned with the elite in the NFL even though he should be. The reason? He's a humble young man who bring his lunch pail everyday and doesn't draw attention to himself like people expect from big-time WRs. Not that they have a clue, but ESPN ranks him as the 13th best receiver in the game... behind Roddy White? Steve Smith? Please.

breesfan27 · 06-11-2011, 08:26 PM

As much as I love Reggie, I will agree he is overrated. Definitely not worth what we pay him.

I'll also agree Malcolm Jenkins and Lance Moore are two of the most underrated players on our roster. Both have been standouts at their positions and their stocks are rising.

foreverfan · 06-11-2011, 10:46 PM

Overrated....

Underrated...

Speedy Ron · 06-12-2011, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

I'd love for you to teach me one thing about linemen that I dont already know. I make a point to watch them every game and I talk about them more than anyone else for a reason. Telling me that he stunk is like sayin Bigfoot exists cuz you have absolutely no proof to backup your ridiculous claims. In fact most of the accusations against him are based on a misguided notion that the entire line regressed but if you actually do the math you'll see the line did just as well as the previous seasons. I'm afraid ppl are too cautious to place the blame on the ppl that are really at fault.... Drew and Payton

i think what you dont know is recordable stats. i cant find the end of season stats that i had at the end of last year where stinch had the most allowed sack and most penalties. all i can find is mid season stats that show him still leading in penalties and sacks allowed. i admit he was playing good but as i said before this last season he was at the bottom of the list on OUR O line. league wise...he prob is an above average player. on our team the stats show him not as good as the others.
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06-11-2011, 05:37 AM	#21
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Overrated - Roman Harper (You can geaux to a ProBowl and still be caught from behind by a QB not named Vick?!?) Underrated - Carl Nicks (With Jahri Evans slacking, he is the best OL, in the League); Malcolm Jenkins (though I'd wanted to draft Matthews, this guy is really getting ready to launch to the next level) Underappreciated - Scott Shanle (Watch the Film, Gumbys) Misunderstood - Reginald Alfred "Reggie" Bush II (With all the bashing, expectations have come back down to Planet Houston, Return of the Jedi Time) Overpaid - Nah, Not Gonna Geaux There I agree with most everything you said. Shanle is no worldbeater but better than what folks believe. I really hope Stinch gets back to form this year or he might get pushed aside by Charlie Brown.

06-11-2011, 11:29 AM	#23
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Overrated: Roman Harper Underrated: Carl Nicks
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06-11-2011, 01:53 PM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Overrated: Roman Harper, Stinchcomb, Bushrod Underrated: Nicks, Moore, Jenkins How is Bushrod overrated? Nearly everyone thinks he's the weak link among the O-line and probably our worst starter on offense. Is it because he's even worse than sucks?

06-11-2011, 03:07 PM	#26
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Speedy Ron than call me a funny guy. last year he was terrible. he was outplayed by bushrod. he was consistently getting beat every game. he had about 3-4 good seasons and started declining last year. hopefully for the sake of the team he is better this year, but if you think he had a good season last year you might be blind. I'd love for you to teach me one thing about linemen that I dont already know. I make a point to watch them every game and I talk about them more than anyone else for a reason. Telling me that he stunk is like sayin Bigfoot exists cuz you have absolutely no proof to backup your ridiculous claims. In fact most of the accusations against him are based on a misguided notion that the entire line regressed but if you actually do the math you'll see the line did just as well as the previous seasons. I'm afraid ppl are too cautious to place the blame on the ppl that are really at fault.... Drew and Payton
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06-11-2011, 05:54 PM	#27
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Overrated: Stinchcomb, Mount Cody (not a Saint, but way overrated) Underrated: Colston. This cat has never made a Pro Bowl? Ridiculous. He's never mentioned with the elite in the NFL even though he should be. The reason? He's a humble young man who bring his lunch pail everyday and doesn't draw attention to himself like people expect from big-time WRs. Not that they have a clue, but ESPN ranks him as the 13th best receiver in the game... behind Roddy White? Steve Smith? Please. woody likes this.
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06-11-2011, 07:25 AM	#22
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	We still need an upgrade over shanle though, hopefully casillas takes his spot and martez Wilson gets the other starting spot. Shanle is very average, however all i can remember is him getting torched so much in the super bowl that roman harper had to cover Dallas Clark eventually.

06-11-2011, 12:26 PM	#24
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Overrated: Roman Harper, Stinchcomb, Bushrod Underrated: Nicks, Moore, Jenkins

06-11-2011, 08:26 PM	#28
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	As much as I love Reggie, I will agree he is overrated. Definitely not worth what we pay him. I'll also agree Malcolm Jenkins and Lance Moore are two of the most underrated players on our roster. Both have been standouts at their positions and their stocks are rising.

06-11-2011, 10:46 PM	#29
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06-12-2011, 09:25 PM	#30
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Originally Posted by CantonLegend I'd love for you to teach me one thing about linemen that I dont already know. I make a point to watch them every game and I talk about them more than anyone else for a reason. Telling me that he stunk is like sayin Bigfoot exists cuz you have absolutely no proof to backup your ridiculous claims. In fact most of the accusations against him are based on a misguided notion that the entire line regressed but if you actually do the math you'll see the line did just as well as the previous seasons. I'm afraid ppl are too cautious to place the blame on the ppl that are really at fault.... Drew and Payton i think what you dont know is recordable stats. i cant find the end of season stats that i had at the end of last year where stinch had the most allowed sack and most penalties. all i can find is mid season stats that show him still leading in penalties and sacks allowed. i admit he was playing good but as i said before this last season he was at the bottom of the list on OUR O line. league wise...he prob is an above average player. on our team the stats show him not as good as the others. New Orleans Saints offensive line needs to keep the sack totals from growing: First-and-10 column \| NOLA.com