Ike Taylor to Saints?

foreverfan · 06-25-2011, 04:29 PM

With what money?

GeauxForMore · 06-25-2011, 08:32 PM

He's a zone corner. Remember when we brought in a zone corner who we thought would be a good man corner. He's name is Jason David. No spend the money somewhere else.

alleycat_126 · 06-27-2011, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

He's a zone corner. Remember when we brought in a zone corner who we thought would be a good man corner. He's name is Jason David. No spend the money somewhere else.

I gotta stop you right there. The reason it didn't work when we bought Jason David in is because we brought JD in for all the wrong reasons. They actually gave him number one corner money. Although Pittsburgh is primarily zone d. Polamalu is often times a gambler and will break zone d formations to try and make plays leaving Pitt CBS on islands. Taylor can hold his own, plus he is unafraid to come and assist in run support. A shade taller than Greer or Porter who had been getting picked on last season. I say if you have the money then he is worth a look if he is willing.

Danno · 06-26-2011, 07:58 AM

I agree, Greer is our best CB with Porter close behind.

Hopefully Robinson pushes both of them and Patrick plays the dime by season's end.

TheDeuce · 06-26-2011, 05:10 PM

Jabari Greer got eaten alive last year.

Danno · 06-26-2011, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Jabari Greer got eaten alive last year.

So did Porter and Robinson. Greer was still our best CB in 2010.

TheDeuce · 06-27-2011, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Why? He's our best CB.

Originally Posted by Danno

So did Porter and Robinson. Greer was still our best CB in 2010.

Nah I'm not buying that. Robinson was awful, and Porter was bad, but Greer got toasted.

Hate to throw numbers at this conversation, but according to "Advanced NFL Stats", Porter had a higher Win Probability Added (meaning he gave the Saints a higher chance of winning when he was on the field), a higher Success Rate (number of plays considered "successful"), and a lower Expected Points (meaning when he was on the field, fewer points would be given up).

Advanced NFL Stats - Player Statistics by Team

Danno · 06-27-2011, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Nah I'm not buying that. Robinson was awful, and Porter was bad, but Greer got toasted.

Hate to throw numbers at this conversation, but according to "Advanced NFL Stats", Porter had a higher Win Probability Added (meaning he gave the Saints a higher chance of winning when he was on the field), a higher Success Rate (number of plays considered "successful"), and a lower Expected Points (meaning when he was on the field, fewer points would be given up).

Advanced NFL Stats - Player Statistics by Team

Hate to counter with more numbers, but...

If our top 3 CB's were Awful, Bad and Toasted, then how did we finish with the 4th ranked pass defense in the entire league, (with an in the box SS and below average sack totals)?

We also finished 1st in the NFL for least TD passes allowed.

TheDeuce · 06-27-2011, 07:17 PM

Fair enough, good point Danno. I tend to be harsher on the teams I love... perhaps it's that final game that sticks in my mind... although I stand by my statement that I think Greer struggled in 2010. I remember him getting beaten quite a few times more than in 2009.

06-27-2011, 01:13 AM	#3
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by GeauxForMore He's a zone corner. Remember when we brought in a zone corner who we thought would be a good man corner. He's name is Jason David. No spend the money somewhere else. I gotta stop you right there. The reason it didn't work when we bought Jason David in is because we brought JD in for all the wrong reasons. They actually gave him number one corner money. Although Pittsburgh is primarily zone d. Polamalu is often times a gambler and will break zone d formations to try and make plays leaving Pitt CBS on islands. Taylor can hold his own, plus he is unafraid to come and assist in run support. A shade taller than Greer or Porter who had been getting picked on last season. I say if you have the money then he is worth a look if he is willing.

06-26-2011, 05:10 PM	#5
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Jabari Greer got eaten alive last year.
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06-26-2011, 06:10 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Originally Posted by TheDeuce Jabari Greer got eaten alive last year. So did Porter and Robinson. Greer was still our best CB in 2010.

06-27-2011, 07:47 AM	#7
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Why? He's our best CB. Originally Posted by Danno So did Porter and Robinson. Greer was still our best CB in 2010. Nah I'm not buying that. Robinson was awful, and Porter was bad, but Greer got toasted. Hate to throw numbers at this conversation, but according to "Advanced NFL Stats", Porter had a higher Win Probability Added (meaning he gave the Saints a higher chance of winning when he was on the field), a higher Success Rate (number of plays considered "successful"), and a lower Expected Points (meaning when he was on the field, fewer points would be given up). Advanced NFL Stats - Player Statistics by Team
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06-27-2011, 08:04 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Originally Posted by TheDeuce Nah I'm not buying that. Robinson was awful, and Porter was bad, but Greer got toasted. Hate to throw numbers at this conversation, but according to "Advanced NFL Stats", Porter had a higher Win Probability Added (meaning he gave the Saints a higher chance of winning when he was on the field), a higher Success Rate (number of plays considered "successful"), and a lower Expected Points (meaning when he was on the field, fewer points would be given up). Advanced NFL Stats - Player Statistics by Team Hate to counter with more numbers, but... If our top 3 CB's were Awful, Bad and Toasted, then how did we finish with the 4th ranked pass defense in the entire league, (with an in the box SS and below average sack totals)? We also finished 1st in the NFL for least TD passes allowed. st thomas likes this.

06-25-2011, 04:29 PM	#1
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	With what money?

06-25-2011, 08:32 PM	#2
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 590	He's a zone corner. Remember when we brought in a zone corner who we thought would be a good man corner. He's name is Jason David. No spend the money somewhere else.

06-26-2011, 07:58 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	I agree, Greer is our best CB with Porter close behind. Hopefully Robinson pushes both of them and Patrick plays the dime by season's end.

06-27-2011, 07:17 PM	#9
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Fair enough, good point Danno. I tend to be harsher on the teams I love... perhaps it's that final game that sticks in my mind... although I stand by my statement that I think Greer struggled in 2010. I remember him getting beaten quite a few times more than in 2009.
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