Ryan’s “46” Could be Resurrected in New Orleans

06-27-2011, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by Danno
My favorite part of a pretty well written article.

Also, if Casillas and Wilson progress as expected, Jonathan Vilma will be our slowest LB.

Wow. Williams loves speed, and he now has it at almost every spot on defense. Even Rogers is quick for a 350lb NT.

Fast and Furious should be our 2011 slogan.

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

I like it!!

I'd like to se a 46 and think it could be quite effective. We must remember however that speed isn't everything; remember the players Haslett drafted, you could think it was a Track team he was trying to build.

Rugby Saint II · 06-27-2011, 11:49 AM

No matter how often we run it we will have even more options to confuse and pummel other offenses. Who knows, LBer could be just as much fun to watch at training camp as RB or CB. Regardless, our defense is going to be dominant.

skymike · 06-28-2011, 05:09 PM

wow... just wow...

I want it.

neugey · 06-29-2011, 12:36 PM

I like the 4-6, but any team trying to run this full-time now as they Bears used to will get burned. The strict rules on illegal contact, QB hits, pass interference and now defenseless receiver are turning aggressive defense into a relic.

The 4-6 could still serve as a nice change of pace for a few downs to apply some pressure on the offense.

Crusader · 06-29-2011, 02:02 PM

I'd bet we'll see some 46, some 3-4, 4-3 and so on. GW likes to run a multiple front defence and I think it will just continue to evolve the longer he stays in NO.

realheavyd · 06-30-2011, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Since Gregg Williams has been with the Saints, they have used the 46 formation from time to time. I do see the Saints using more of it, as they continue to adjust the personal. However, I do not believe the Saints (or any team) will be able to use it as a primary base defense. The problem with the 46 is the West Coast type of offense can easily rip it apart. Most teams these days do employ at least some variation of a West Coast offense. The 46 as a special package from time to time, can still be very lethal.

Right. So now I am guessing that MatthewT, neugey and Crusader didn't read the entire article?

I never said that I thought Gregg Williams would use the 46 defense as a base defense. I said that I thought he would use it more often than he has thus far with the Saints' defensive players because of the better, faster personnel that he now has at his disposal and that I thought he would use it on an as needed basis to get more pressure on the QB.

GW loves using multiple sets between variations of the 4-3, the 3-4 and even the 46 and that will never change. He sees all of these different looks as tools to confuse the opposing offenses and try to get them to make mistakes that will result in potential turnovers in his favor. Plain and simple. Anything to get the ball back into the hands of the master Drew Brees again! Works for me...

skymike · 07-02-2011, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by realheavyd

Right. So now I am guessing that MatthewT, neugey and Crusader didn't read the entire article?...

easy, big guy. you're in a laid back part O' the internet.

carry on with your interesting self.

06-27-2011, 02:15 AM	#11
Threaded by Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 7,991 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Danno My favorite part of a pretty well written article. Also, if Casillas and Wilson progress as expected, Jonathan Vilma will be our slowest LB. Wow. Williams loves speed, and he now has it at almost every spot on defense. Even Rogers is quick for a 350lb NT. Fast and Furious should be our 2011 slogan. Originally Posted by Marlboro Man I like it!! I'd like to se a 46 and think it could be quite effective. We must remember however that speed isn't everything; remember the players Haslett drafted, you could think it was a Track team he was trying to build.
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06-30-2011, 03:14 AM	#16
realheavyd 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339	Originally Posted by MatthewT Since Gregg Williams has been with the Saints, they have used the 46 formation from time to time. I do see the Saints using more of it, as they continue to adjust the personal. However, I do not believe the Saints (or any team) will be able to use it as a primary base defense. The problem with the 46 is the West Coast type of offense can easily rip it apart. Most teams these days do employ at least some variation of a West Coast offense. The 46 as a special package from time to time, can still be very lethal. Right. So now I am guessing that MatthewT, neugey and Crusader didn't read the entire article? I never said that I thought Gregg Williams would use the 46 defense as a base defense. I said that I thought he would use it more often than he has thus far with the Saints' defensive players because of the better, faster personnel that he now has at his disposal and that I thought he would use it on an as needed basis to get more pressure on the QB. GW loves using multiple sets between variations of the 4-3, the 3-4 and even the 46 and that will never change. He sees all of these different looks as tools to confuse the opposing offenses and try to get them to make mistakes that will result in potential turnovers in his favor. Plain and simple. Anything to get the ball back into the hands of the master Drew Brees again! Works for me...
realheavyd 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339

07-02-2011, 03:00 PM	#17
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by realheavyd Right. So now I am guessing that MatthewT, neugey and Crusader didn't read the entire article?... easy, big guy. you're in a laid back part O' the internet. carry on with your interesting self. Crusader likes this.

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06-27-2011, 11:49 AM	#12
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	No matter how often we run it we will have even more options to confuse and pummel other offenses. Who knows, LBer could be just as much fun to watch at training camp as RB or CB. Regardless, our defense is going to be dominant.

06-28-2011, 05:09 PM	#13
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	wow... just wow... I want it.

06-29-2011, 12:36 PM	#14
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	I like the 4-6, but any team trying to run this full-time now as they Bears used to will get burned. The strict rules on illegal contact, QB hits, pass interference and now defenseless receiver are turning aggressive defense into a relic. The 4-6 could still serve as a nice change of pace for a few downs to apply some pressure on the offense.

06-29-2011, 02:02 PM	#15
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 7,991	I'd bet we'll see some 46, some 3-4, 4-3 and so on. GW likes to run a multiple front defence and I think it will just continue to evolve the longer he stays in NO.