Is Bush really the 10th worst draft steel failure?

WhoDat!656 · 07-13-2011, 07:47 PM

ESPN Ranks Reggie Bush as 10th Worst Draft Steal Failure - Canal Street Chronicles

Ashley · 07-13-2011, 07:55 PM

Jesus Christ !

Danno · 07-13-2011, 07:57 PM

Not even close.

iceshack149 · 07-13-2011, 08:08 PM

This kid will be a mess before the season starts. He brought a lot of it on himself but I think that he's just made bad decisions. He's not a bad guy. Just dopey.

Please end the lockout.

jnormand · 07-14-2011, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

This kid will be a mess before the season starts. He brought a lot of it on himself but I think that he's just made bad decisions. He's not a bad guy. Just dopey.

Please end the lockout.

I agree Shack. What the hell? Leave him alone and go after someone else. This is getting ridiculous.

Danno · 07-13-2011, 08:18 PM

A decent NFL player with a unique skill set, Bush is a running back who can cause matchup problems when used as a slot receiver. Five years ago, though, he looked like an absolutely transcendent talent in the Coliseum: A franchise running back who could redefine the position with his receiving skills. Unfortunately, he hasn't played all 16 games since his rookie year, and he has never shown the good vision that is a trademark of great NFL running backs. He's averaged just 4 yards per carry over his career, and by Football Outsiders' DVOA ratings, he's contributed just one above-average season carrying the football, and that was just over 70 carries in 2009. He'll never be the superstar he looked like he'd be in college, and the Texans have been vindicated for passing him up for Mario Williams.

While I agree with every word of this comment by ESPN, for them to cast Reggie anywhere close to a bust of any sort shows a total lack of knowledge about NFL football and the NFL draft.

I thought they were more insightful than this crap.

TheDeuce · 07-14-2011, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I thought they were more insightful than this crap.

Really? This has pretty much become the norm for ESPN... national guys who do little to no research on teams (except the Pats, Steelers, and Cowboys) and then draw conclusions.

Reggie has been a disappointment, but top 10 steal failure (that doesn't sound right) is dumb. He's certainly not a superstar, but an all-around contributor. The thing that worries me about Reggie right now is that his performance in the kicking game has fallen off so dramatically (the guy is a crippling fumble waiting to happen) that I think his value to the team is lower than ever.

Crusader · 07-14-2011, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Really? This has pretty much become the norm for ESPN... national guys who do little to no research on teams (except the Pats, Steelers, and Cowboys) and then draw conclusions.

Reggie has been a disappointment, but top 10 steal failure (that doesn't sound right) is dumb. He's certainly not a superstar, but an all-around contributor. The thing that worries me about Reggie right now is that his performance in the kicking game has fallen off so dramatically (the guy is a crippling fumble waiting to happen) that I think his value to the team is lower than ever.

If he was picked in the upper 2nd round of the draft he would be considered a great player for his draft status but now he wasn't so we get to read crap like this instead.

Beastmode · 07-13-2011, 08:58 PM

With Super Mario:

2006 4th
2007 4th
2008 3rd
2009 2nd
2010 3rd

Vindicated? Saints have 3 post season efforts resulting in a NFC title game and a SB win. I think he meant lubricated.

saintsfan1976 · 07-13-2011, 09:11 PM

What is Bush without Payton? What is Payton without Bush? We may soon find out...

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,736	Originally Posted by iceshack149 This kid will be a mess before the season starts. He brought a lot of it on himself but I think that he's just made bad decisions. He's not a bad guy. Just dopey. Please end the lockout. I agree Shack. What the hell? Leave him alone and go after someone else. This is getting ridiculous.

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TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Originally Posted by Danno I thought they were more insightful than this crap. Really? This has pretty much become the norm for ESPN... national guys who do little to no research on teams (except the Pats, Steelers, and Cowboys) and then draw conclusions. Reggie has been a disappointment, but top 10 steal failure (that doesn't sound right) is dumb. He's certainly not a superstar, but an all-around contributor. The thing that worries me about Reggie right now is that his performance in the kicking game has fallen off so dramatically (the guy is a crippling fumble waiting to happen) that I think his value to the team is lower than ever.
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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Originally Posted by TheDeuce Really? This has pretty much become the norm for ESPN... national guys who do little to no research on teams (except the Pats, Steelers, and Cowboys) and then draw conclusions. Reggie has been a disappointment, but top 10 steal failure (that doesn't sound right) is dumb. He's certainly not a superstar, but an all-around contributor. The thing that worries me about Reggie right now is that his performance in the kicking game has fallen off so dramatically (the guy is a crippling fumble waiting to happen) that I think his value to the team is lower than ever. If he was picked in the upper 2nd round of the draft he would be considered a great player for his draft status but now he wasn't so we get to read crap like this instead.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	A decent NFL player with a unique skill set, Bush is a running back who can cause matchup problems when used as a slot receiver. Five years ago, though, he looked like an absolutely transcendent talent in the Coliseum: A franchise running back who could redefine the position with his receiving skills. Unfortunately, he hasn't played all 16 games since his rookie year, and he has never shown the good vision that is a trademark of great NFL running backs. He's averaged just 4 yards per carry over his career, and by Football Outsiders' DVOA ratings, he's contributed just one above-average season carrying the football, and that was just over 70 carries in 2009. He'll never be the superstar he looked like he'd be in college, and the Texans have been vindicated for passing him up for Mario Williams. While I agree with every word of this comment by ESPN, for them to cast Reggie anywhere close to a bust of any sort shows a total lack of knowledge about NFL football and the NFL draft. I thought they were more insightful than this crap.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	With Super Mario: 2006 4th 2007 4th 2008 3rd 2009 2nd 2010 3rd Vindicated? Saints have 3 post season efforts resulting in a NFC title game and a SB win. I think he meant lubricated.
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