Soooo, does Brees want out?

TheDeuce · 07-19-2011, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Yall are losing yall's mind if you think any of that has to do with the players wanting out of there current teams.

All that it means is that those players don't want to be stuck playing for the average of the top 5 players at their position for the year.

Honestly I don't blame them they are all trying to one up themselves to be the highest paid player in the league.

Think about it... That is a year they won't be or delay being the highest paid player in the league. That is all it really means. IF they really want out they can be franchised only so many times then they have to be a FA under the current.

I am not losing sleep over that and its so petty it won't become apart of the final deal... I'd put money on it.

Well said Euph. I'm reading through this thread and not sure why everybody is freaking out. No player wants a one-year deal; they want the security of a multi-year deal. Brees still has one year left on his contract, and doesn't want to be tagged. Am I missing something?

Rugby Saint II · 07-19-2011, 07:33 PM

He is just following his agents advice. He's a Saint for life.

saintsfan1976 · 07-19-2011, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Well said Euph. I'm reading through this thread and not sure why everybody is freaking out. No player wants a one-year deal; they want the security of a multi-year deal. Brees still has one year left on his contract, and doesn't want to be tagged. Am I missing something?

Yes. And if I can add - what Brees is doing now is for the players of the future.

Anyone watch the recent HBO special; "Curious Case of Carl Flood"?

Brees basically wants the same thing.

The Dude · 07-19-2011, 08:43 PM

You guys have to realize that even though Brady, Brees, and Manning "represent" the players, they only truly represent about 1% of the players. These guys are elite, and are or will be the highest paid players in the league. They have a lot more to gain from this posturing than your average player. For every Brady, Manning, or Brees who have multi million dollar contracts there are 100 Arringtons, Shanles, Weatherfords, and Reis', these are the guys who really are the NFL. 99% of the leagues players are just sick and tired of this and want to get back to playing football and making money. FA especially have a lot more to lose than these star players that are in on the negotiations. I can totally understand Shanles frustrations. The average NFL player will never hit free agency as the average career span of an NFL player is 3.5 years (I dont care how Goodall tries to spin it, that is what it is) and will likely be affected by very little of this CBA bull****.

Michigan_SF · 07-19-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Ah...can someone tell me what the hell is going on?

Defamation is harder to prove when you're a public figure that can issue a press release. The Press knows it, lives it, loves it.

QBREES9 · 07-20-2011, 12:09 AM

What happen to lets get this wrapped up so we can play.... None of these greedy bastards better F this up.

B_Dub_Saint · 07-20-2011, 04:28 AM

Drew will retire as a saint. Nuff said

BringTheWood · 07-20-2011, 05:48 AM

This is likely highly contextual and blown out of proportion, but just in case...

Drew, if you let us down, I will find and stab you. Don't become what you fight against.

Saint_LB · 07-20-2011, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Its all totally clear now. Payton moves to Dallas, and is seen hanging with Dallas players. Payton and JJ have a handshake deal for Payton to coach the Cowboys next year.....and bring Brees with him. Its a total Willie Beeman Any Given Sunday deal. If Brees gets what he wants he can walk after next season and go with Payton to Dallas. These guys have been planning this all along. You read it here first....

To be honest...you have just put into ink what has been going-on in my head for quite some time, now. I'm sure that a lot of people around here could tell you that I have never been an avid fan of either Sean or Drew...but I have been hoping all along that I was wrong and everybody else here is right in falling in love with these two. I mean...I love what they have done but for some reason I just can't trust either of them. Could you trust a guy that kicks an onside-kick to start the 2nd half of the SB...when for the first time in history people actually wondered whether he would or not?

I do think that before it is all over we will all have some answers. Personally...I won't be really angry at either of them if they do decide to move their act west a bit. I'm sure, in their heads, they feel that they've all they can do here and more...and I would love to think that people like Drew and Sean could become satisified...but in reality I think they are just the opposite.

It is entirely possible that they both would like...hell, their ego's need...a new challenge...and all the money that comes with it wouldn't suck for either of them.

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The preceding was only my opinion and not necessarily the opinion of this web site's employees & management.

SapperSaint · 07-20-2011, 11:12 AM

I wont say I'm worried about Bress leaving; or freaking out, or losing sleep. I wanted some of you "Smart" people to explain what Drew was doing.

As far as Sean and Drew leaving to go coach/play at Big D.....

I can give you first hand knowledge about how a REAL, TRUE, competitive coach thinks.

1. He wants to win.

2. He wants to bring a team from nothing into someting.

3. He wants to be challenged.

4. He always is looking for the next challenge.

Sean has taken a team from nothing and won a SuperBowl. Almost made it to the big dance twice, and has a great shot to do it again this year.

Winning the same ole way; believe it or not, can get boring. Those types of Coaches want harder challenges. Think about it... he became the head coach of a team that was is shambles, homeless, HISTORY OF LOSING, and rumors of moving to another city.

How many of you would take a job like that?

So, LB's way of thinking is really not that far off.

Let's look at Dallas for a second.

1. He came from there

2. He just moved back there

3. JJ can throw more money at him than anyone else

4. Dallas hasn't been a contender since Troy Akin

5. Strato likes Texas Blues

6. Romo is not the answer, As much as they want him to be an elete QB, he never will be.

7. Sean and Drew have a pretty strong Bromance. Drew and Sean have a plan. We just don't know it.

07-19-2011, 07:29 PM	#21
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Originally Posted by Euphoria Yall are losing yall's mind if you think any of that has to do with the players wanting out of there current teams. All that it means is that those players don't want to be stuck playing for the average of the top 5 players at their position for the year. Honestly I don't blame them they are all trying to one up themselves to be the highest paid player in the league. Think about it... That is a year they won't be or delay being the highest paid player in the league. That is all it really means. IF they really want out they can be franchised only so many times then they have to be a FA under the current. I am not losing sleep over that and its so petty it won't become apart of the final deal... I'd put money on it. Well said Euph. I'm reading through this thread and not sure why everybody is freaking out. No player wants a one-year deal; they want the security of a multi-year deal. Brees still has one year left on his contract, and doesn't want to be tagged. Am I missing something?
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by TheDeuce Well said Euph. I'm reading through this thread and not sure why everybody is freaking out. No player wants a one-year deal; they want the security of a multi-year deal. Brees still has one year left on his contract, and doesn't want to be tagged. Am I missing something? Yes. And if I can add - what Brees is doing now is for the players of the future. Anyone watch the recent HBO special; "Curious Case of Carl Flood"? Brees basically wants the same thing.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	You guys have to realize that even though Brady, Brees, and Manning "represent" the players, they only truly represent about 1% of the players. These guys are elite, and are or will be the highest paid players in the league. They have a lot more to gain from this posturing than your average player. For every Brady, Manning, or Brees who have multi million dollar contracts there are 100 Arringtons, Shanles, Weatherfords, and Reis', these are the guys who really are the NFL. 99% of the leagues players are just sick and tired of this and want to get back to playing football and making money. FA especially have a lot more to lose than these star players that are in on the negotiations. I can totally understand Shanles frustrations. The average NFL player will never hit free agency as the average career span of an NFL player is 3.5 years (I dont care how Goodall tries to spin it, that is what it is) and will likely be affected by very little of this CBA bull****.
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Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by The Dude Its all totally clear now. Payton moves to Dallas, and is seen hanging with Dallas players. Payton and JJ have a handshake deal for Payton to coach the Cowboys next year.....and bring Brees with him. Its a total Willie Beeman Any Given Sunday deal. If Brees gets what he wants he can walk after next season and go with Payton to Dallas. These guys have been planning this all along. You read it here first.... To be honest...you have just put into ink what has been going-on in my head for quite some time, now. I'm sure that a lot of people around here could tell you that I have never been an avid fan of either Sean or Drew...but I have been hoping all along that I was wrong and everybody else here is right in falling in love with these two. I mean...I love what they have done but for some reason I just can't trust either of them. Could you trust a guy that kicks an onside-kick to start the 2nd half of the SB...when for the first time in history people actually wondered whether he would or not? I do think that before it is all over we will all have some answers. Personally...I won't be really angry at either of them if they do decide to move their act west a bit. I'm sure, in their heads, they feel that they've all they can do here and more...and I would love to think that people like Drew and Sean could become satisified...but in reality I think they are just the opposite. It is entirely possible that they both would like...hell, their ego's need...a new challenge...and all the money that comes with it wouldn't suck for either of them. NOTE-- The preceding was only my opinion and not necessarily the opinion of this web site's employees & management.
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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	I wont say I'm worried about Bress leaving; or freaking out, or losing sleep. I wanted some of you "Smart" people to explain what Drew was doing. As far as Sean and Drew leaving to go coach/play at Big D..... I can give you first hand knowledge about how a REAL, TRUE, competitive coach thinks. 1. He wants to win. 2. He wants to bring a team from nothing into someting. 3. He wants to be challenged. 4. He always is looking for the next challenge. Sean has taken a team from nothing and won a SuperBowl. Almost made it to the big dance twice, and has a great shot to do it again this year. Winning the same ole way; believe it or not, can get boring. Those types of Coaches want harder challenges. Think about it... he became the head coach of a team that was is shambles, homeless, HISTORY OF LOSING, and rumors of moving to another city. How many of you would take a job like that? So, LB's way of thinking is really not that far off. Let's look at Dallas for a second. 1. He came from there 2. He just moved back there 3. JJ can throw more money at him than anyone else 4. Dallas hasn't been a contender since Troy Akin 5. Strato likes Texas Blues 6. Romo is not the answer, As much as they want him to be an elete QB, he never will be. 7. Sean and Drew have a pretty strong Bromance. Drew and Sean have a plan. We just don't know it. strato likes this.
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