What is Heath Evans So Upset About?

saintfan · 07-23-2011, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't understand the feelings toward Heath Evans that I'm reading here. He isn't fighting for more money for him. He is fighting for a better life for not just him but for all the players including the ones that make the league minimum. I'm not upset in the least. The owners are business men who are used to dirty or underhanded business dealings. They tried to pull a fast one but thanks to people like Heath it ain't happening.
We'll have football and I want him back in the black and gold.

Because when he tweets "What the 'real' fans need to know" I am offended. This insinuates that I'm not fully aware of what's going on because what? I'm not a 'real' fan? I'm not a 'real' fan unless I side with the players?

Screw him.

I know precisely what's going on - as much as anyone can know who isn't directly involved...as much as I 'can' know. What I know:

The players are well paid
The players were well paid with the old agreement
The players will be well paid with the new agreement
The players will work less with the new agreement
The players will make more with the new agreement
The players, current and former, will be better taken care of, much better in many ways, with the new agreement

Here's what else I know. I know that what they don't like about what the owners have ratified has everything to do with a strategy they are already building up for the next CBA.

What else I know is, in spite of Heath and other players saying they are truly sorry that the HOF game was cancelled, the truth is they don't give a damn. They won't care one iota right up until they start missing game checks.

They don't care about Canton
They don't care about the Vendors
They don't care about the people who have already lost their jobs because of this mess

Heath needs to take his wife and daughter to Macys and Nordstrom this weekend. THAT'S what Heath cares about at the end of the day.

Screw him.

Danno · 07-23-2011, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I'm with you Rugby, it's a business plan and simple. I really didn't hear anything wrong on what he was saying, other than that crap that came out of his mouth at the end "war eagle"

I didn't hear his comments, but I heard NFLN comment that he's crawfished on them.

It really had nothing to do with players, it was some sort of revenue sharing pot ( a safety stash so to speak) the owners added to help the small market teams compete with the big market teams.

Didn't hear it all but it seemed like a whole lot to do about nothing.

EDIT: Just listened to the whole thing. WTF is the fuss all about? He doesn't sound upset at all and every thing he said was logical and very level headed, well except that war eagle crap at the end.

He sounds no different than every other player who's opened his mouth about this negotiaton.

Boutte · 07-23-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Sign Vonta Leach...and send Heath packing...when he gets stuffed on the one yard line against the niners...he was done anyway...let him go to ESPN and be a talking head..that seems to be what he wants anyway..

Exactly! And we might not even bring him back this year. He can be replaced. He's not a great blocker. He's not a great runner. He can catch but if all you do is catch 3 yd dump offs that you do nothing with what good is it? Maybe he'll be better after another year to heal.

He's good at keeping his name in the news though.

saintfan · 07-23-2011, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He sounds no different than every other player who's opened his mouth about this negotiaton.

Well there you go...

iceshack149 · 07-24-2011, 11:40 AM

It seems that you're taking it a little too personally. He's just another guy "fighting for the cause". So what?

I actually like Evans. It seems that he's a leader and a bright player. He's had some great moments as a fullback for the Saints.

I hate this lockout. It's keeping us from talking about football.

saintfan · 07-24-2011, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

It seems that you're taking it a little too personally. He's just another guy "fighting for the cause". So what?

I actually like Evans. It seems that he's a leader and a bright player. He's had some great moments as a fullback for the Saints.

I hate this lockout. It's keeping us from talking about football.

You're right. I am. I'm not happy with myself about it either. Through the whole process I figure, you know, it's rich men haggling over 9 billion dollars. We all knew they'd figure it out eventually, and it would appear as though they have.

But yes, it became personal to me the instant they cancelled the HOF game. Not so much because I linger around all summer waiting on the HOF game. I don't. Rather it was because I know in my heart they simple do not care.

And I guess Heath was wrong about all this "illegal" stuff he said they owners tried to slip in? Sure looks like it...

ALLSAINTS66 · 07-24-2011, 02:06 PM

I stopped listening to pretty much anything he says, b/c of his
constant Bible thumping on his Twitter acct. Tiresome. Almost
as tiresome as Reggie Bush's total inability to use the English
language. What do the they teach those people at USC, anyway?
It ain't* English. It ain't accounting. It apparently ain't even
FOOTBALL. So, WHAT IS IT?!?

*Gratuitous use of "ain't" intended as Southern irony. ; )

jeanpierre · 07-24-2011, 08:54 PM

From a football perspective - I'd rather have a Brian Leonard (CIN) or Korey Hall (GB)...

Postconcussion syndrome is affecting Evans...

ALLSAINTS66 · 07-25-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Postconcussion syndrome is affecting Evans...

*laughing* That was put SO NICELY. ; )

WhoDat1456 · 07-26-2011, 01:30 PM

Just sounded to me like the guy wanted to be proceed with caution. There was nothing malicious in the tone of his voice. I don't think he mention one thing negative about his salary. This guy even went as far as to say he didn't think there was much more to work out. He was just concerned out the forced time line. It's easy for me to see why someone on the end of a contract negotiation that only been agreed upon by the other side would be alarmed.
HEATH...Do not voice your opinion. If we want that we'll voice it here for YOU !!!!....LOL

07-23-2011, 03:56 PM	#11
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't understand the feelings toward Heath Evans that I'm reading here. He isn't fighting for more money for him. He is fighting for a better life for not just him but for all the players including the ones that make the league minimum. I'm not upset in the least. The owners are business men who are used to dirty or underhanded business dealings. They tried to pull a fast one but thanks to people like Heath it ain't happening. We'll have football and I want him back in the black and gold. Because when he tweets "What the 'real' fans need to know" I am offended. This insinuates that I'm not fully aware of what's going on because what? I'm not a 'real' fan? I'm not a 'real' fan unless I side with the players? Screw him. I know precisely what's going on - as much as anyone can know who isn't directly involved...as much as I 'can' know. What I know: The players are well paid The players were well paid with the old agreement The players will be well paid with the new agreement The players will work less with the new agreement The players will make more with the new agreement The players, current and former, will be better taken care of, much better in many ways, with the new agreement Here's what else I know. I know that what they don't like about what the owners have ratified has everything to do with a strategy they are already building up for the next CBA. What else I know is, in spite of Heath and other players saying they are truly sorry that the HOF game was cancelled, the truth is they don't give a damn. They won't care one iota right up until they start missing game checks. They don't care about Canton They don't care about the Vendors They don't care about the people who have already lost their jobs because of this mess Heath needs to take his wife and daughter to Macys and Nordstrom this weekend. THAT'S what Heath cares about at the end of the day. Screw him.
	C'mon Man...

07-23-2011, 03:56 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by Ashley I'm with you Rugby, it's a business plan and simple. I really didn't hear anything wrong on what he was saying, other than that crap that came out of his mouth at the end "war eagle" I didn't hear his comments, but I heard NFLN comment that he's crawfished on them. It really had nothing to do with players, it was some sort of revenue sharing pot ( a safety stash so to speak) the owners added to help the small market teams compete with the big market teams. Didn't hear it all but it seemed like a whole lot to do about nothing. EDIT: Just listened to the whole thing. WTF is the fuss all about? He doesn't sound upset at all and every thing he said was logical and very level headed, well except that war eagle crap at the end. He sounds no different than every other player who's opened his mouth about this negotiaton. exiled and AsylumGuido like this.

07-23-2011, 04:10 PM	#13
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Originally Posted by strato Sign Vonta Leach...and send Heath packing...when he gets stuffed on the one yard line against the niners...he was done anyway...let him go to ESPN and be a talking head..that seems to be what he wants anyway.. Exactly! And we might not even bring him back this year. He can be replaced. He's not a great blocker. He's not a great runner. He can catch but if all you do is catch 3 yd dump offs that you do nothing with what good is it? Maybe he'll be better after another year to heal. He's good at keeping his name in the news though.

07-23-2011, 10:45 PM	#14
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Danno He sounds no different than every other player who's opened his mouth about this negotiaton. Well there you go...

07-24-2011, 11:50 AM	#16
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by iceshack149 It seems that you're taking it a little too personally. He's just another guy "fighting for the cause". So what? I actually like Evans. It seems that he's a leader and a bright player. He's had some great moments as a fullback for the Saints. I hate this lockout. It's keeping us from talking about football. You're right. I am. I'm not happy with myself about it either. Through the whole process I figure, you know, it's rich men haggling over 9 billion dollars. We all knew they'd figure it out eventually, and it would appear as though they have. But yes, it became personal to me the instant they cancelled the HOF game. Not so much because I linger around all summer waiting on the HOF game. I don't. Rather it was because I know in my heart they simple do not care. And I guess Heath was wrong about all this "illegal" stuff he said they owners tried to slip in? Sure looks like it...
	C'mon Man...

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07-24-2011, 11:40 AM	#15
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	It seems that you're taking it a little too personally. He's just another guy "fighting for the cause". So what? I actually like Evans. It seems that he's a leader and a bright player. He's had some great moments as a fullback for the Saints. I hate this lockout. It's keeping us from talking about football.

07-24-2011, 02:06 PM	#17
ALLSAINTS66 Bless You Boys! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In mah hause. Posts: 319	I stopped listening to pretty much anything he says, b/c of his constant Bible thumping on his Twitter acct. Tiresome. Almost as tiresome as Reggie Bush's total inability to use the English language. What do the they teach those people at USC, anyway? It ain't* English. It ain't accounting. It apparently ain't even FOOTBALL. So, WHAT IS IT?!? *Gratuitous use of "ain't" intended as Southern irony. ; )

07-24-2011, 08:54 PM	#18
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	From a football perspective - I'd rather have a Brian Leonard (CIN) or Korey Hall (GB)... Postconcussion syndrome is affecting Evans... saintfan and strato like this.

07-25-2011, 03:26 PM	#19
ALLSAINTS66 Bless You Boys! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In mah hause. Posts: 319	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Postconcussion syndrome is affecting Evans... laughing That was put SO NICELY. ; )

07-26-2011, 01:30 PM	#20
WhoDat1456 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 17	Just sounded to me like the guy wanted to be proceed with caution. There was nothing malicious in the tone of his voice. I don't think he mention one thing negative about his salary. This guy even went as far as to say he didn't think there was much more to work out. He was just concerned out the forced time line. It's easy for me to see why someone on the end of a contract negotiation that only been agreed upon by the other side would be alarmed. HEATH...Do not voice your opinion. If we want that we'll voice it here for YOU !!!!....LOL
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