How much is enough...

saintsfan1976 · 07-23-2011, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You're missing the point. I advocate for the players making as much as they can make. If the money is there a large portion of it should go to them. They are the product and I get that. My point is not to 'hate' them for what they make, but rather it is to establish that they make a LOT of money - even the lowest paid players in the league make BIG cash.

No. There are some extremely well-paid players but the majority aren't as successful as you think. Remember that an NFL contract is not "guaranteed" like other sports.

Originally Posted by saintfan

But it's not enough. No. The players angle here is not to be paid fairly - their salaries are fair by ANY measure. It is to be paid as much as possible, collateral damage (thats us by the way) be damned.

How do you know what the players want? You don't play in the NFL.

Originally Posted by saintfan

Blaming the evil agents is missing the target. The agents are a tool of the players, not the other way around. Players holding out in training camp are not handcuffed by their agents. Players refusing to sign with the team that drafted them aren't handcuffed by agents. Players decertifying their union aren't told to do so by their agents. Players suing their bosses in court aren't forced to do so by their agents. No, agents are leveraged by players to cut them the most lucrative deal they can.

Totally disagree. A 22 year old football player or Drew Rosenhaus. Which person is more likely to negotiate NFL contracts? Agents want the pay scale to increase each year for their own benefit.

Originally Posted by saintfan

A man who has made over 50 million dollars over the last ten years playing a game who tells me he is being mistreated is going to have a hard time swinging me to his side. He's not a miner and this ain't the roaring twenties. A man who tells me the system is corrupt while cashing out nearly a million and a half over 5 years at a MINIMUM better come to the table with something pretty damaging.

None have. None can. It's a farce.

This is a common sentiment. We're fans. We want football. But don't fool yourself into thinking that either side of this is more right than the other.

07-23-2011, 08:17 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by saintfan You're missing the point. I advocate for the players making as much as they can make. If the money is there a large portion of it should go to them. They are the product and I get that. My point is not to 'hate' them for what they make, but rather it is to establish that they make a LOT of money - even the lowest paid players in the league make BIG cash. No. There are some extremely well-paid players but the majority aren't as successful as you think. Remember that an NFL contract is not "guaranteed" like other sports. Originally Posted by saintfan But it's not enough. No. The players angle here is not to be paid fairly - their salaries are fair by ANY measure. It is to be paid as much as possible, collateral damage (thats us by the way) be damned. How do you know what the players want? You don't play in the NFL. Originally Posted by saintfan Blaming the evil agents is missing the target. The agents are a tool of the players, not the other way around. Players holding out in training camp are not handcuffed by their agents. Players refusing to sign with the team that drafted them aren't handcuffed by agents. Players decertifying their union aren't told to do so by their agents. Players suing their bosses in court aren't forced to do so by their agents. No, agents are leveraged by players to cut them the most lucrative deal they can. Totally disagree. A 22 year old football player or Drew Rosenhaus. Which person is more likely to negotiate NFL contracts? Agents want the pay scale to increase each year for their own benefit. Originally Posted by saintfan A man who has made over 50 million dollars over the last ten years playing a game who tells me he is being mistreated is going to have a hard time swinging me to his side. He's not a miner and this ain't the roaring twenties. A man who tells me the system is corrupt while cashing out nearly a million and a half over 5 years at a MINIMUM better come to the table with something pretty damaging. None have. None can. It's a farce. This is a common sentiment. We're fans. We want football. But don't fool yourself into thinking that either side of this is more right than the other.