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foreverfan 07-24-2011 07:19 PM

Will Devery Henderson make this team?
 
Could Meachum, Arrington or Moore make Devery expendable or do you thing he will make the final roster and be in the Black and Gold in 2011?

The Dude 07-24-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 310668)
Could Meachum, Arrington or Moore make Devery expendable or do you thing he will make the final roster and be in the Black and Gold in 2011?

I think DH time here is done. Meachum has had plenty of time to develop and should be able to take his spot. If not, it could be Meachums last year with the team. I see us getting a FA to throw in the mix to push both.

aquaboogie 07-24-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 310668)
Could Meachum, Arrington or Moore make Devery expendable or do you thing he will make the final roster and be in the Black and Gold in 2011?

Tough call! Meach and Arrington are injury prone. Henderson is most productive when we have a run game(play action). Hopefully, we will have healthy backs this year. I hope we KEEP Moore. I hope the FO makes the right choices.

alleycat_126 07-24-2011 07:37 PM

Arrington hasn't done enough to be on the field, I think devery will be fine he had a down year. There's nobody else as explosive as Devery Out in Free Agency. Moss washed up, Ocho and T.O washed up, T. J Housh washed up, I would take a flyer on Mike Simms - Walker at a reasonable price

papz 07-24-2011 07:45 PM

He's still only 29 and makes a very affordable 2.25 mil. We typically keep 5 maybe 6 receivers depending on whatever we're calling Roby. Henderson has a spot on this team... I don't see why he wouldn't. He had a down year, it happens... at the same time Brees had an off year throwing him the deep ball as well. He should have a bounce back season.

foreverfan 07-24-2011 07:51 PM

Devery gets great seperation, spreads the field and doesn't fumble. Our running game will no doubt bring his game up.


The Dude 07-24-2011 08:07 PM

Arrington is a completely different type of receiver than Devery. Arrington is a possession guy like Colston. Meachum is supposed to be the speed guy homerun hitter like Devery. If anyone takes DH's place it will be Meach or a FA.

Ashley 07-24-2011 08:42 PM

Devery will stay, we have a running game now. Saying that he will be open for the home runs again!

QBREES9 07-24-2011 09:00 PM

Yes he will

Crusader 07-25-2011 04:02 AM

He'll be back and I think his stats will be up too.

WhoDat!656 07-25-2011 04:38 AM

His chances for making the team would improve greatly if stick 'em was brought back

SmashMouth 07-25-2011 06:58 AM

I guess it all depends if he continues his case of the dropsies. He had seemingly solved that until last year.

jcp026 07-25-2011 10:45 AM

I don't think any one receiver will make him expendable, but his contract might. One way or another, he's probably on the team this season.

Danno 07-25-2011 10:47 AM

I think he renegotiates and stays. With reduced training camps we'll probably approach the 2011 season desiring to keep as many vets familiar with our system as we can.

Devery stays, at a reduced price, 3 year contract.

darstep 07-25-2011 11:13 AM

I agree that Henerson's productivity will/should go up with the improved running attack. But Devery's not a hands guy. He catches the ball in his bread basket. Even after all the hands work they put in, under pressure or in a crowd, he reverts back to the BB thing. He's under cantract and he's reasonably cheap. I say they keep him until the weaving in his basket begins to unravel. I'm still twisted about him getting the deal that Moore deserved.

boonedocksaint 07-25-2011 12:44 PM

whether or not we're able to keep lance moore, im positive we're keeping him. he's always been our biggest deep ball threat. payton and drew love to slang that ball deep, so, he's stayin' fo sho.

plus, payton loves using him on reverse/double reverse plays and whatnot. he's a threat on the deep ball, as well as, running the ball.

jeanpierre 07-25-2011 01:36 PM

Arrington just needs PT...

Meachem is a bust in my mind; has been since he was drafted and showed to be in the same shape that Roman Harper displayed when he was rundown by one Mr. Samuel Jacob Bradford of St. Louis Rams, One Rams Way, St. Louis, MO...

I like loyalty to players; I like Devery; I didn't like what Devery brought to the games last season...

Danno 07-25-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 310932)
I agree ..dats why we need our best blocking back to pick up blitzes....who is that now?..

From what I hear that would be PT, and word is Ingram excelled at it in college.

Ivory I'm not sure about... Reggie, I've read he's OK, but nothing special.

Rugby Saint II 07-25-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 310933)
From what I hear that would be PT, and word is Ingram excelled at it in college.

Ivory I'm not sure about... Reggie, I've read he's OK, but nothing special.

I read the same article!:doh:

hagan714 07-25-2011 11:52 PM

stallworth = henderson
if he does not take a pay cut, trade him for jock straps. i could care less.

Anyone can run the streak and not catch the ball. plenty of UDFA out there can do that.

Mechman needs to take over the #2 or i will get the same attitude towards him by the end of the season. Time to step up

jeanpierre 07-26-2011 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 311170)
stallworth = henderson
if he does not take a pay cut, trade him for jock straps. i could care less.

Anyone can run the streak and not catch the ball. plenty of UDFA out there can do that.

Mechman needs to take over the #2 or i will get the same attitude towards him by the end of the season. Time to step up

Meachem has been a bust to me since he was drafted and showed up to TC not in shape.

How on earth at that age, just playing the college game, can you show up after being drafted in the first round out of shape?!?!

It is time for the Adrian Arrington era to begin or admit that was a mistake moving back into the draft for him and getting Lance signed and preparing for next year's draft...

jdiggy 07-26-2011 06:46 PM

Keep Henderson. He's been more dependable of late. He's a solid #2 in this offense.

I think Moore is great, but not big enough to be a #2. He's more of a slot.

Thoughts?

boonedocksaint 07-26-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jdiggy (Post 311416)
Keep Henderson. He's been more dependable of late. He's a solid #2 in this offense.

I think Moore is great, but not big enough to be a #2. He's more of a slot.

Thoughts?

i think lance moore is perfect in the slot. he's more of a possesion reciever. i love lance moore, but, he's not a burner, and he's 5'9. i think he catches the ball very well, he's athletic as hell, and he's decent finding space before and after he catches the ball, which makes up for his lack of size and speed.

i think we need devery. i think we need lance. i hope theres a way to keep them both.

jdiggy 07-26-2011 07:31 PM

Agreed. Not sure Lance is so confident.

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DrewDat 07-26-2011 08:33 PM

they never gave Arrington a chance....i dont think he's gonna stay

jeanpierre 07-26-2011 10:20 PM

Considering talent, salary slot, and effectiveness - I'd keep the receivers in this order Colston, Arrington, Moore, Henderson, Meachem

foreverfan 07-26-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 311170)
stallworth = henderson
if he does not take a pay cut, trade him for jock straps. i could care less.

Anyone can run the streak and not catch the ball. plenty of UDFA out there can do that.

Mechman needs to take over the #2 or i will get the same attitude towards him by the end of the season. Time to step up.

This is by far the stupidest thing you've ever posted. Some people are drinking the Lance Moore kool aid. Many in the NFL believe that he's special because he plays for the Saints.

Henderson catches the deep ball as good as anybody on the team. In fact he makes a bunch of hard catches. Where he's had trouble is with the short and easy catches. He does a great job with the long ball. You want to talk drops, look at Colston too. For years, Devery averaged a TD in every 7 catches he made. 2010 was an off year.

Just think if we would have had the speed of Henderson & Meachum when Bobby Hebert was the QB. It would have been a different story for the RBs. They can't put 8 on the line with those 2 in the game. :o

If we lose Moore & Bush, you're going to be screaming for Henderson. It's hard to lose that many players and remain the #1 offense.

foreverfan 07-26-2011 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 311477)
Considering talent, salary slot, and effectiveness - I'd keep the receivers in this order Colston, Arrington, Moore, Henderson, Meachem

Arrington hasn't done crap. I'd try to keep the 4 guys that has already proven that they are the #1 offense in the league. Why mess with that kind of success. Arrington is a pipe dream fill in player. Assuming all return for 2011, Arrington is still the odd man out.

foreverfan 07-27-2011 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 311503)
Lance does have the softest hands on the team..you cant dispute that...

I'd be the first to tell you that you can't coach "Great Hands". If you could, everybody would have them.

Lance has "Great Hands". Lance has made some sick catches and made the routine look easy. We are a better team with him... but other than Great Hands, he's a roll player for the Saints. He doesn't strike fear into a defense. All he does is keep the chains moving. I guess that's good enough. :p

Danny Abramowitz once said that a good WR concentrates on catching the ball. A great WR concentrates on concentrating on the ball. That's the difference. :cool:

LBCutta 07-27-2011 01:04 AM

Why are we even talking about Arrington? He is a PS player at best. Sure if he got some PT Brees would make him look decent. I wont lose a wink of sleep if the Saints part ways with him. Devery on the other hand is proven and like it or not is an important piece of out passing attack!

hagan714 07-27-2011 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 311496)
This is by far the stupidest thing you've ever posted.

not even close. ;)

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 311496)
Some people are drinking the Lance Moore kool aid. Many in the NFL believe that he's special because he plays for the Saints.

oh it is so sweet too :p

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 311496)
Henderson catches the deep ball as good as anybody on the team. In fact he makes a bunch of hard catches. Where he's had trouble is with the short and easy catches. He does a great job with the long ball. You want to talk drops, look at Colston too. For years, Devery averaged a TD in every 7 catches he made. 2010 was an off year.

lets talk about all the throws that are not deep balls. look at the number of target vs. drop. until the the king Stallworth left, Henderson was always #2. now he is #1. I have to give him credit though. Injured or not he is consistent. he sux in flat and over the middle. :???:

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 311496)
Just think if we would have had the speed of Henderson & Meachum when Bobby Hebert was the QB. It would have been a different story for the RBs. They can't put 8 on the line with those 2 in the game. :o

I am not drinking the Herbert cool aid :doh:

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 311496)
If we lose Moore & Bush, you're going to be screaming for Henderson. It's hard to lose that many players and remain the #1 offense.

i agree we can not afford to lose all that speed in one season. I have a gut feeling Bush is all but done here, but then again Mickey may pull another rabbit out of the hat. Moore I am a fan of. :bng:

Henderson is over paid and always was over paid in my opinion. You search my posts and u can see plenty of "If he stays oh well" statements. I have posted enough stats on him. So every year i am :confused:

Mech is one season away joining the Stall = Hend = Mech statement. i gave all of them enough time before i started lamb basting them. :brood:

Now if Henderson could be a PR/KR then that would be different. But some one on the saints side line does not believe him for that role. they try it every year and well we all know how that turns out. :whatever:

Memnoch_TP 07-27-2011 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 310678)
Arrington hasn't done enough to be on the field, I think devery will be fine he had a down year. There's nobody else as explosive as Devery Out in Free Agency. Moss washed up, Ocho and T.O washed up, T. J Housh washed up, I would take a flyer on Mike Simms - Walker at a reasonable price

Sidney Rice...

Nuff Said.

lumm0x 07-28-2011 12:51 PM

We once thought Devery would be a perennial explosive wideout that scared opposing defenses, and his stat line always looked good with this huge yards per catch and some nice deep TD's. But during this time he frustrated fans and the coaching staff with drops and sporadic efforts.

He has really come around as a player. He worked through the drops and has become a pretty consistent clutch receiver. I was even more impressed with him on our SB run when Brees went to him in situations that would have terrified me in the past. He's a quiet guy, plays his role, fills in as a returned when needed and can still be a very effective receiving option. With Meachem continuing to be a worse enigma than a young Devery was, Arrington having shown nothing but a pre-season flash, and Moore up in the air, I think Devery is a much needed WR in our system.

We have no training camp to speak of and knowing the routes and scheme will be key. I think we'd be crazy to go without him especially with the conditions this year.


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