Lofa Tatupu?

papz · 07-31-2011, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

PFT says Seahawks are about to cut him.

Was once one of the better middle linebackers in football. He's been injury prone but a move to the outside might be just what he needs.

A Tatupu-Vilma-Casillas starting trio might not be big but it would be probably the fastest group of linebackers in the league, and with our new and improved DL would have a lot more room to operate.

Now while I do like Tatupu, you do realize he's not fast. Pretty much zaps this argument. Casillas is also coming off major injury himself.

biloxi-indian · 07-31-2011, 04:55 PM

If Tatupu had double knee surgery in January as reported in the link below.

No thanks. All I have is visions of him spinning the wheel and rehab.

Lofa Tatupu - Seattle Seahawks - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

Jack Vegas · 07-31-2011, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Now while I do like Tatupu, you do realize he's not fast. Pretty much zaps this argument. Casillas is also coming off major injury himself.

I don't care about 40 times. The guy has football speed. He flows to the ball the same way Vilma does and has instincts.

papz · 07-31-2011, 05:27 PM

My bad. I didn't realize we were measuring football speed.

Any who... I'm just not that interested in moving him outside, having had double knee surgery, and being responsible for covering TE's down the seam even though he has some of the fastest football speed out there.

Curiously though... how much would you be willing to pay him? He's was scheduled to make a little more than 4 million this year and refused to restructure and take a pay cut to remain playing for Pete Carroll of all people.

Jack Vegas · 07-31-2011, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by papz

My bad. I didn't realize we were measuring football speed.

Any who... I'm just not that interested in moving him outside, having had double knee surgery, and being responsible for covering TE's down the seam even though he has some of the fastest football speed out there.

Curiously though... how much would you be willing to pay him? He's was scheduled to make a little more than 4 million this year and refused to restructure and take a pay cut to remain playing for Pete Carroll of all people.

We can both sit here and mouth off snarky responses to each other all day, but Tatupu's situation reminds me a lot of Vilma, another guy who people said was washed up when we got him.

And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you or I is interested in, but what the FO thinks. And we'll find that out in time.

papz · 07-31-2011, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

We can both sit here and mouth off snarky responses to each other all day, but Tatupu's situation reminds me a lot of Vilma, another guy who people said was washed up when we got him.

And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you or I is interested in, but what the FO thinks. And we'll find that out in time.

Don't get me wrong... I'd love to have him. But I just think your expectations are a little too much here.

-The guy has been on the decline the past few seasons.
-He's coming off double knee surgery.
-He runs what one would have to assume in the high 4.8/4.9s now.
-Rushing he passer hasn't exactly been his strong suit.

Now while he has great football instincts, probably the best word describing him, the odds are stacked against him and it would not appear to be an upgrade starting him on our defense. If he were willing to sign a one year pact to come in here and backup Vilma, while rebuilding some value for the following season, sign me up.

07-31-2011, 04:44 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Originally Posted by Jack Vegas PFT says Seahawks are about to cut him. Was once one of the better middle linebackers in football. He's been injury prone but a move to the outside might be just what he needs. A Tatupu-Vilma-Casillas starting trio might not be big but it would be probably the fastest group of linebackers in the league, and with our new and improved DL would have a lot more room to operate. Now while I do like Tatupu, you do realize he's not fast. Pretty much zaps this argument. Casillas is also coming off major injury himself.

07-31-2011, 05:11 PM	#3
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Originally Posted by papz Now while I do like Tatupu, you do realize he's not fast. Pretty much zaps this argument. Casillas is also coming off major injury himself. I don't care about 40 times. The guy has football speed. He flows to the ball the same way Vilma does and has instincts.
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07-31-2011, 06:21 PM	#5
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Originally Posted by papz My bad. I didn't realize we were measuring football speed. Any who... I'm just not that interested in moving him outside, having had double knee surgery, and being responsible for covering TE's down the seam even though he has some of the fastest football speed out there. Curiously though... how much would you be willing to pay him? He's was scheduled to make a little more than 4 million this year and refused to restructure and take a pay cut to remain playing for Pete Carroll of all people. We can both sit here and mouth off snarky responses to each other all day, but Tatupu's situation reminds me a lot of Vilma, another guy who people said was washed up when we got him. And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you or I is interested in, but what the FO thinks. And we'll find that out in time.
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07-31-2011, 07:04 PM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Originally Posted by Jack Vegas We can both sit here and mouth off snarky responses to each other all day, but Tatupu's situation reminds me a lot of Vilma, another guy who people said was washed up when we got him. And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you or I is interested in, but what the FO thinks. And we'll find that out in time. Don't get me wrong... I'd love to have him. But I just think your expectations are a little too much here. -The guy has been on the decline the past few seasons. -He's coming off double knee surgery. -He runs what one would have to assume in the high 4.8/4.9s now. -Rushing he passer hasn't exactly been his strong suit. Now while he has great football instincts, probably the best word describing him, the odds are stacked against him and it would not appear to be an upgrade starting him on our defense. If he were willing to sign a one year pact to come in here and backup Vilma, while rebuilding some value for the following season, sign me up.
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07-31-2011, 04:55 PM	#2
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	If Tatupu had double knee surgery in January as reported in the link below. No thanks. All I have is visions of him spinning the wheel and rehab. Lofa Tatupu - Seattle Seahawks - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

07-31-2011, 05:27 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	My bad. I didn't realize we were measuring football speed. Any who... I'm just not that interested in moving him outside, having had double knee surgery, and being responsible for covering TE's down the seam even though he has some of the fastest football speed out there. Curiously though... how much would you be willing to pay him? He's was scheduled to make a little more than 4 million this year and refused to restructure and take a pay cut to remain playing for Pete Carroll of all people.