Why are we aquiring so many run stuffers this offseason?
 

We have been pretty decent against the run, but we really have not been great at rushing the qbs very well. I would figure we would build to get better in that department. With the drafting of Jones The Falcons are building to be a pass first team, and I would figure we would try and get after him a little bit. Rodgers, Franklin, and everyone else we aquired are great at stuffing the run, but not really known for being pass rushers. Do you guys worry about this?

Worry not dude, this is exactly the right approach if you think about it.

Sedrick Ellis is a great pass rusher from inside. Gregg Williams knows that and that's why he wanted NT types in Shaun Rogers and Aubrayo Franklin to use on the D-line to free up Ellis to do his worst this year. Ellis was double teamed most of last year and he still recorded 6 sacks, best of his career so far. Look for Ellis to post up Pro Bowl numbers this year with the help of Rogers and Franklin to free him up.

Cameron Jordan was drafted for his versatility at DE to also be moved inside on passing downs, a lot like they used to do with Charles Grant when he was still a Saint, but now it should be much more effective with Jordan and Ellis in the middle with all their strength and speed together to pinch off the center.

With all that beef in the middle, Rogers and Franklin on 1st and 2nd downs (mostly running downs), and Ellis coming in on 3rd downs for an added pass rush, teams will be faced with a lot of 3rd and longs after not being able to run up the middle on us anymore. This will free up our speedy linebackers, Casillas, Martez Wilson and Vilma as well as Will Smith and Junior Galette or Turk McBride or Alex Brown or Jeff Charleston at DE to get after the QB and rattle his cage on those 3rd and longs.

Meanwhile, we have some of the best corners in the NFL in Greer and Porter as well as depth galore there if any of them go down, plus extreme strength at SS in Roman Harper and FS with Malcolm Jenkins to shut down every option long enough to get the QB down.

Our defense is now so deep at every position that it isn't even funny anymore. If you thought Green Bay's defense was great last year, you haven't seen anything because the Saints will make them look like amateurs this year. Watch!

Here's the thing about your coach, he probably watch that Marshawn run about 300 trillion times. Then, he let GW watch it with him another 300 trillion. On defense Vilma took a lot of punishment last season as teams just ran the ball down our throats with timely passin gin between. A motivated run stuffing team will free up our LBS more to make those plays we had gotten use to in 09. Give the offense more short fields. I like Martez Wilson this season. Malcom Jenkins will also have a monster. and hopefully the saints stay healthy at the corner and we make a deep run.

Three most important positions on defense: Nose Tackle, Mike Backer, Free Safety...you've got to control the middle of the field...

Build a strong team up the middle and everything else will fall into place. Mediocre pass rushers then become solid rushers. Solid rushers then becomes good rushers. Good rushers becomes excellent rushers.

I'm perfectly fine with us not having the name rushers. Williams likes to bring pressure from every position, anytime, and everywhere on the field. It's going to be and has been a collective team effort since he's been here. This is the strongest we've been up the middle in a very long time... I expect our sacks numbers to increase even w/o that star guy.

And the way Junior is being talked this offseason... :cool:

DECENT!?!?!

I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers.

You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running.

We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP.

We're making up for all the years we never had 1 much less 3 or 4. This defense will be GDub's best ever and will take us to the Superbowl again. Sexual Intercourse those Eagles.

Euph I couldn't agree more. I remember last year that the Falcons game plan seemed to be long sustained, grind it out, drives against us. It was aimed, just like you pointed out, to keep the ball out of Drew's hands. If we can run the ball and stop the run, look out man.

Why are we aquiring so many run stuffers this offseason?

My guess...

They are trying to defend the run better?

Two on dat! I was trying to remember the last time we were able to stop a third and one. Having a bit of trouble doing that. Sixteenth in the league against the run ain't very good. Now we just gots to hope the linebacker corps gets their poop in a group.

IMO the objective is to make the other team mostly give up on the run and become mostly one-dimensional with the pass. Once this happens, GW can put in his aggressive blitzing or bizarre coverage schemes to rattle the opposition and try to force an incompletion or a takeaway.

With our defense, we want teams to throw the ball....

The problem with the passing game is you have only one good thing that can happen and a boat load of things that can go wrong.

Incompletion
Interception
Penalty
Sack
Fumble
Stops the Clock - More possesions for Saints

With the secondary we've accumulated, we are daring people to throw it. Can you say turnover? We have an offense that can get into a shoot out with anyone. Bring it on babby. I trust in Greg Williams & Sean Payton know what they are doing.

I'm gonna give you an A+ for content...but I reluctantly have to deduct points for spelling.

Overall grade- A-

Yeah...we spelling cops have been out in full-force recently...he he he.

Are you kidding? Have you seen the way cats spell on this board? :D

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Good stuff bro, but I think it should be noted that Shawn Rodgers is an excellent pass rusher for a DT. He's got 3 tech speed to go along with his 2-gap frame. He is not strickly a big run stuffing DT, although he does that quite well too.

Franklin isn't as fast as Rodgers, but the big boy can collapse the pocket quite quickly, forcing the QB out of the pocket into the helmet of an oncoming heat seeking missle.

I truly think we improved our pass rush just as much as our run stopping ability.

Again, as with everything right now, its all on paper. But this team looks loaded.

Are you calling Shanle a heat seeking missle? :rolleyes:

To quote you...

"Good stuff bro"!

OK, would you believe... a heat seeking rock?

Not to worry...the blur of Harper will blind people from noticing Shanle's tardiness. :)

I seem to remember Rogers giving Drew fits last year in that game. (I kinda think that game was Rogers' resume to Loomis and Payton.)

On defense?

Jenkins, Greer and Robinson stand out to me EVERY DAY!

Indeed it was. I'm excited to see the defense this year. If they can be top 5, and it's looking like they can, this might be one of the best teams to enter the nfl in any era!

Two reasone....One...Ask Marshawn Lynch.

Secondly, if he can do that to us... So can Turner, Blount, and DeAngelo Williams....all guys we see twice a year.

This is true, but we also have been able to stop the run when it counts against heavy run first teams. AP, Turner, D Will, and others have all been pretty much held in check by us for the most part these past couple of years. Problem is we did tend to give up the big run play at the most inopportune moments.

stop picking on me

Unfortunately, When "Spelling Cops" rely exclusively on spell-check to help them, they can break other grammatical rules.

he he he, while spelled correctly, is contextually incorrect.

hee, hee, hee will show as a misspelling in spell-check, as it is slang for laughter. But, it is contextually correct for your purpose.

Just a little bit bored waiting for camp to open today.
Good Times!

That's some funny stuff Hagan

You are crap spelling cops. "he he he" is perfectly usable. There are multiple valid laughter simulations, and "he he" is included in that list. However, his incorrect usage of an ellipsis and improper spacing and capitalization after said ellipsis is what you should have pointed out if you were worth a damn.

B gone spellin Nazi's ...he haw he haw....lol

I like ellipsis (sp?) :), mostly 'cause Danno don't! :) :)

Please show me how to be grammatically correct. Give me an example.

He he he..... is that like, three dudes?

That should be because Danno "doesn't"... not that it matters...but they do bug me...it just looks funny... I can't explain why... they just do...maybe its the engineer geek in me... or ...I don't know...I'll try not to let it annoy me anymore...although it probably will...at least for the forseeable future...or maybe not...I'm out...see ya later...

Stop the middle & you know to cover other areas....

Truck off....

The difference between the run stuffers we have this year compared to the heavy lunch bunch a few years ago is that Rogers and Franklin are more athletic and should take on double teams allowing Smith and whomever is playing the other end position the ability to collapse the pocket for Vilma to come clean to make the hit or better yet force a throw into coverage for a pick.

What really bothers me to no end
is when... people post like this.
It screams arrogance and know it allness
and It reminds me of
That fag Dat Damn Dog
on the other site

TD

Let's hope there is another difference as well.

No scrounging for hot dogs during games like Johnathan Sullivan !

Having a horrible day and then I come and read stuff here and you guys always manage to crack me up. Thanks!

Here is reason #1 for the run-stuffing help.


I never want to see that again

I'd like to mention that my Fantasy running backs definitely had great games against the saints last season. Tuner sucked pretty much all last season except for against the saints; DeAngelo Williams was the same story. They couldn't do much against many other teams, but they did great against the saints.

We definitely didn't have that great of a run stuffing team last year; these were great smart upgrades. And I think these guys are great pass rushers. By the way, have you not seen Rogers int. from 2007? That was impressive for that massive guy