Observations on the Saints

Saint_LB · 08-13-2011, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Harper suped up his wheel chair last night. If anyone had any doubts why he wasn't replace this offseason, there was your answer. Excellent in the box and at blitzing.

I didn't want Harper replaced, and I'm not implying that you said that...this just looked like a good spot for me to eat some crow.

I have made jokes during the offseason regarding Harper. I guess I was embarrassed by what Bradford did. I do realize that Harper was gassed by that time in that game...and Sam is probably pretty fast...anyway...

I am glad we have Roman Harper.

There...I said it.

foreverfan · 08-13-2011, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I didn't want Harper replaced, and I'm not implying that you said that...this just looked like a good spot for me to eat some crow.

I have made jokes during the offseason regarding Harper. I guess I was embarrassed by what Bradford did. I do realize that Harper was gassed by that time in that game...and Sam is probably pretty fast...anyway...

I am glad we have Roman Harper.

There...I said it.

Looks tasty.

papz · 08-13-2011, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I have made jokes during the offseason regarding Harper. I guess I was embarrassed by what Bradford did. I do realize that Harper was gassed by that time in that game...and Sam is probably pretty fast...anyway...

There's no way around it... he was brought down by Bradford from behind. He deserved to be ridiculed. That's goign to follow him for the rest of his life.

strato · 08-13-2011, 09:54 AM

Meach should have caught that pass ..no way around it..he is a 3rd year 1st rounder...preseason or not..you make that catch...if he continues his droppsies and Colston is hurting then what?...that was the reason i wanted to take a look at T.O...call me a DF{Dam Fool}..but it couldnt hurt..if he doesn't produce cut him...

Memnoch_TP · 08-13-2011, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Meach should have caught that pass ..no way around it..he is a 3rd year 1st rounder...preseason or not..you make that catch...

Why do people keep saying that? He was drafted in 07. That was not 3 years ago. This is his 5th year.

I actually watched FF's entire 8 minute Meatchump highlight reel, and it is more a Drew Brees highlight reel. Look at all those catches he makes. Almost everyone one was a well thrown ball that he would have been a goat for dropping. There are maybe 3 really good catches in there. First round pick, 4 years as a pro, on a team that has won a Super Bowl, and if that highlight reel is the best you can come up with in that period, you need to go. All it shows is he is fast and make easy catches.

Clear him out, start Roby. He is smarter and more driven and a better all around football player.

Originally Posted by homerj07

Too soon to freak out - EITHER way. Its why we play preseason. Lt them work it out.

I'll freak out on Meatchump whenever I want to, thank you. I choose now.

strato · 08-14-2011, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP

Why do people keep saying that? He was drafted in 07. That was not 3 years ago. This is his 5th year.

I actually watched FF's entire 8 minute Meatchump highlight reel, and it is more a Drew Brees highlight reel. Look at all those catches he makes. Almost everyone one was a well thrown ball that he would have been a goat for dropping. There are maybe 3 really good catches in there. First round pick, 4 years as a pro, on a team that has won a Super Bowl, and if that highlight reel is the best you can come up with in that period, you need to go. All it shows is he is fast and make easy catches.

Clear him out, start Roby. He is smarter and more driven and a better all around football player.

I'll freak out on Meatchump whenever I want to, thank you. I choose now.

Sorry your right its his fifth year....which makes him dropping passes even more alarming...i hope he can turn it around soon..Roby is the better player i agree...and now he is hurt...Meachem that is..

darstep · 08-13-2011, 11:25 AM

It was a drop, like many other drops. It wasn't a new brand of drop, it was the old fashioned, hit him dead in the hands drop...why don't we drop it? As for T.O., N.O. Too immature to be thirty something (fits and tantrums like a spoiled child), no thanks. He would probably be more problematic than advantageous. Even if he didn't perform and Payton cut him, his juice would have already spoiled the broth. Sure he has skills, but I don't think that's the kind of sideshow we need on our quest.

Budsdrinker · 08-13-2011, 11:43 AM

first game in the dome this year with new turf and lighting I'm willing to give Meachem a Mulligan. He's been having a good camp so I will give him a break.

Seer1 · 08-13-2011, 12:00 PM

Here we go. I had the Saints on on my 13" laptop and had the TB-KC game on the TV in the background. First a general observation. I seem to remember the home team announcers getting the play. These San Fran nimrods weren't even sure who the niners were playing last night. That was unfortunate for me because it's hard to see which Saint is doing what on that small screen while Stu and Pid were spending hours wishing for a new stadium instead of talking about the game.

Now to the game: D- I was kind of surprised how much wood GW brought to the game. Maybe that was GW's reply to the Niner's for taking our D to school last year. I kind of felt sorry for Alex Smith. He was getting the slobber knocked out of him. The run stopping was like nothing we saw last year. That was a very pleasant thing. It was hard for me to keep track of the LB's but it seemed like the DL and DB's were doing most of the work and the niners weren't able to make it far enough up the field for our LB's to even have to break a sweat.

O Very sloppy. It does take longer for the O line to gel, but it was pretty bad. They got no push on the runs and Drew was running for his life a lot. Granted that Niner defense is pretty good, but that good? Our receivers were simply banana fingered. I know it was the first game, but I'd of traded our receiving corps last night for Tampa's no problem. The Bucs were haulin in everything that came their way. Just sayin'.

Now for the second best part of the game. WE GOTS SPECIAL TEAMS THIS YEAR! Nice! 'Nuff said.

I'm only commenting on the first string part of the game which ended in a draw. I could give a crap if our third string can beat their third string. Although Bell had a good night and Roby looked okay.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 08-13-2011, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Here we go. I had the Saints on on my 13" laptop and had the TB-KC game on the TV in the background. First a general observation. I seem to remember the home team announcers getting the play. These San Fran nimrods weren't even sure who the niners were playing last night. That was unfortunate for me because it's hard to see which Saint is doing what on that small screen while Stu and Pid were spending hours wishing for a new stadium instead of talking about the game.

Now to the game: D- I was kind of surprised how much wood GW brought to the game. Maybe that was GW's reply to the Niner's for taking our D to school last year. I kind of felt sorry for Alex Smith. He was getting the slobber knocked out of him. The run stopping was like nothing we saw last year. That was a very pleasant thing. It was hard for me to keep track of the LB's but it seemed like the DL and DB's were doing most of the work and the niners weren't able to make it far enough up the field for our LB's to even have to break a sweat.

O Very sloppy. It does take longer for the O line to gel, but it was pretty bad. They got no push on the runs and Drew was running for his life a lot. Granted that Niner defense is pretty good, but that good? Our receivers were simply banana fingered. I know it was the first game, but I'd of traded our receiving corps last night for Tampa's no problem. The Bucs were haulin in everything that came their way. Just sayin'.

Now for the second best part of the game. WE GOTS SPECIAL TEAMS THIS YEAR! Nice! 'Nuff said.

I'm only commenting on the first string part of the game which ended in a draw. I could give a crap if our third string can beat their third string. Although Bell had a good night and Roby looked okay.

Well summed up. I had similar points on the other game observation thread going on. What does concearn me a little bit (stress little) is that the O looked out of sync when they had the players camp that was so hyped. Obviously it is not the same as the real thing. I'm just saying I'm surprised the first team struggled (no first downs) in the home opening game against the niners like that. The pats and the eagles looked much better on first string O than the Saints did last night. With the Ingram drafting, the Thomas contract, the Bush trading, and Sproles signing, the run game has added pressure this year. Last night was not step in the right direction for the 1st string run game.

But, I'm not overreacting after 2 weeks of camp. Just my observation.

08-13-2011, 09:04 AM	#1
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by papz Harper suped up his wheel chair last night. If anyone had any doubts why he wasn't replace this offseason, there was your answer. Excellent in the box and at blitzing. I didn't want Harper replaced, and I'm not implying that you said that...this just looked like a good spot for me to eat some crow. I have made jokes during the offseason regarding Harper. I guess I was embarrassed by what Bradford did. I do realize that Harper was gassed by that time in that game...and Sam is probably pretty fast...anyway... I am glad we have Roman Harper. There...I said it. papz and Rugby Saint II like this.
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08-13-2011, 09:13 AM	#2
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Saint_LB I didn't want Harper replaced, and I'm not implying that you said that...this just looked like a good spot for me to eat some crow. I have made jokes during the offseason regarding Harper. I guess I was embarrassed by what Bradford did. I do realize that Harper was gassed by that time in that game...and Sam is probably pretty fast...anyway... I am glad we have Roman Harper. There...I said it. Looks tasty. Boutte and FinSaint like this.

08-13-2011, 09:17 AM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Originally Posted by Saint_LB I have made jokes during the offseason regarding Harper. I guess I was embarrassed by what Bradford did. I do realize that Harper was gassed by that time in that game...and Sam is probably pretty fast...anyway... There's no way around it... he was brought down by Bradford from behind. He deserved to be ridiculed. That's goign to follow him for the rest of his life.

08-13-2011, 07:20 PM	#5
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by strato Meach should have caught that pass ..no way around it..he is a 3rd year 1st rounder...preseason or not..you make that catch... Why do people keep saying that? He was drafted in 07. That was not 3 years ago. This is his 5th year. I actually watched FF's entire 8 minute Meatchump highlight reel, and it is more a Drew Brees highlight reel. Look at all those catches he makes. Almost everyone one was a well thrown ball that he would have been a goat for dropping. There are maybe 3 really good catches in there. First round pick, 4 years as a pro, on a team that has won a Super Bowl, and if that highlight reel is the best you can come up with in that period, you need to go. All it shows is he is fast and make easy catches. Clear him out, start Roby. He is smarter and more driven and a better all around football player. Originally Posted by homerj07 Too soon to freak out - EITHER way. Its why we play preseason. Lt them work it out. I'll freak out on Meatchump whenever I want to, thank you. I choose now. strato likes this.
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08-14-2011, 04:51 PM	#6
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP Why do people keep saying that? He was drafted in 07. That was not 3 years ago. This is his 5th year. I actually watched FF's entire 8 minute Meatchump highlight reel, and it is more a Drew Brees highlight reel. Look at all those catches he makes. Almost everyone one was a well thrown ball that he would have been a goat for dropping. There are maybe 3 really good catches in there. First round pick, 4 years as a pro, on a team that has won a Super Bowl, and if that highlight reel is the best you can come up with in that period, you need to go. All it shows is he is fast and make easy catches. Clear him out, start Roby. He is smarter and more driven and a better all around football player. I'll freak out on Meatchump whenever I want to, thank you. I choose now. Sorry your right its his fifth year....which makes him dropping passes even more alarming...i hope he can turn it around soon..Roby is the better player i agree...and now he is hurt...Meachem that is..

08-13-2011, 09:54 AM	#4
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Meach should have caught that pass ..no way around it..he is a 3rd year 1st rounder...preseason or not..you make that catch...if he continues his droppsies and Colston is hurting then what?...that was the reason i wanted to take a look at T.O...call me a DF{Dam Fool}..but it couldnt hurt..if he doesn't produce cut him...

08-13-2011, 11:25 AM	#7
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	It was a drop, like many other drops. It wasn't a new brand of drop, it was the old fashioned, hit him dead in the hands drop...why don't we drop it? As for T.O., N.O. Too immature to be thirty something (fits and tantrums like a spoiled child), no thanks. He would probably be more problematic than advantageous. Even if he didn't perform and Payton cut him, his juice would have already spoiled the broth. Sure he has skills, but I don't think that's the kind of sideshow we need on our quest.
	SaintSince67

08-13-2011, 11:43 AM	#8
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	first game in the dome this year with new turf and lighting I'm willing to give Meachem a Mulligan. He's been having a good camp so I will give him a break.

08-13-2011, 12:00 PM	#9
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Here we go. I had the Saints on on my 13" laptop and had the TB-KC game on the TV in the background. First a general observation. I seem to remember the home team announcers getting the play. These San Fran nimrods weren't even sure who the niners were playing last night. That was unfortunate for me because it's hard to see which Saint is doing what on that small screen while Stu and Pid were spending hours wishing for a new stadium instead of talking about the game. Now to the game: D- I was kind of surprised how much wood GW brought to the game. Maybe that was GW's reply to the Niner's for taking our D to school last year. I kind of felt sorry for Alex Smith. He was getting the slobber knocked out of him. The run stopping was like nothing we saw last year. That was a very pleasant thing. It was hard for me to keep track of the LB's but it seemed like the DL and DB's were doing most of the work and the niners weren't able to make it far enough up the field for our LB's to even have to break a sweat. O Very sloppy. It does take longer for the O line to gel, but it was pretty bad. They got no push on the runs and Drew was running for his life a lot. Granted that Niner defense is pretty good, but that good? Our receivers were simply banana fingered. I know it was the first game, but I'd of traded our receiving corps last night for Tampa's no problem. The Bucs were haulin in everything that came their way. Just sayin'. Now for the second best part of the game. WE GOTS SPECIAL TEAMS THIS YEAR! Nice! 'Nuff said. I'm only commenting on the first string part of the game which ended in a draw. I could give a crap if our third string can beat their third string. Although Bell had a good night and Roby looked okay. strato likes this.

08-13-2011, 12:47 PM	#10
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by Seer1 Here we go. I had the Saints on on my 13" laptop and had the TB-KC game on the TV in the background. First a general observation. I seem to remember the home team announcers getting the play. These San Fran nimrods weren't even sure who the niners were playing last night. That was unfortunate for me because it's hard to see which Saint is doing what on that small screen while Stu and Pid were spending hours wishing for a new stadium instead of talking about the game. Now to the game: D- I was kind of surprised how much wood GW brought to the game. Maybe that was GW's reply to the Niner's for taking our D to school last year. I kind of felt sorry for Alex Smith. He was getting the slobber knocked out of him. The run stopping was like nothing we saw last year. That was a very pleasant thing. It was hard for me to keep track of the LB's but it seemed like the DL and DB's were doing most of the work and the niners weren't able to make it far enough up the field for our LB's to even have to break a sweat. O Very sloppy. It does take longer for the O line to gel, but it was pretty bad. They got no push on the runs and Drew was running for his life a lot. Granted that Niner defense is pretty good, but that good? Our receivers were simply banana fingered. I know it was the first game, but I'd of traded our receiving corps last night for Tampa's no problem. The Bucs were haulin in everything that came their way. Just sayin'. Now for the second best part of the game. WE GOTS SPECIAL TEAMS THIS YEAR! Nice! 'Nuff said. I'm only commenting on the first string part of the game which ended in a draw. I could give a crap if our third string can beat their third string. Although Bell had a good night and Roby looked okay. Well summed up. I had similar points on the other game observation thread going on. What does concearn me a little bit (stress little) is that the O looked out of sync when they had the players camp that was so hyped. Obviously it is not the same as the real thing. I'm just saying I'm surprised the first team struggled (no first downs) in the home opening game against the niners like that. The pats and the eagles looked much better on first string O than the Saints did last night. With the Ingram drafting, the Thomas contract, the Bush trading, and Sproles signing, the run game has added pressure this year. Last night was not step in the right direction for the 1st string run game. But, I'm not overreacting after 2 weeks of camp. Just my observation.
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