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mighty12 · 08-15-2011, 10:05 AM

I am excited for the season, so I keep posting. This is my fairness post. In all fairness Strief was getting beat by the same guy. On the chase Daniel run, he was flushed by poor blocking from strief.

strato · 08-15-2011, 10:16 AM

I am worried about the line as whole or lack thereof for the RBs...i dont know about everyone else...but i re-watched the game last night and there was no running room for the RBs...i kinda think our 0- line is overrated a tad bit..the First sting offense was out of sync bad..I hope that gets better soon and doesnt carry over from last season..The D looked fine and ready to take out the seattle loss on teams this year...

Danno · 08-15-2011, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by strato

I am worried about the line as whole or lack thereof for the RBs...i dont know about everyone else...but i re-watched the game last night and there was no running room for the RBs...i kinda think our 0- line is overrated a tad bit..the First sting offense was out of sync bad..I hope that gets better soon and doesnt carry over from last season..The D looked fine and ready to take out the seattle loss on teams this year...

Exactly what I saw too. The SF D-line won their LOS battle, and it wasn't close.

Maverick2299 · 08-15-2011, 10:23 AM

we will definitely know after this next pre-season game. Hopefully Sean and the O-line coach, get it under control.

alexonfyre · 08-15-2011, 11:20 AM

I am curious, do you think our O-line might have been sold out by Goody? I mean, he probably could have told them how to get around each of the blocking schemes and how to recognize them, which made their line look a lot better than they actually are.

jnormand · 08-15-2011, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

I am curious, do you think our O-line might have been sold out by Goody? I mean, he probably could have told them how to get around each of the blocking schemes and how to recognize them, which made their line look a lot better than they actually are.

It's possible but offensive lineman still have to have good technique. There is only so much Goody could have told them that would help. Not enough to completely shut us down like they did. Our first unit better get their **** straight.

saintfan · 08-15-2011, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by strato

I am worried about the line as whole or lack thereof for the RBs...i dont know about everyone else...but i re-watched the game last night and there was no running room for the RBs...i kinda think our 0- line is overrated a tad bit..the First sting offense was out of sync bad..I hope that gets better soon and doesnt carry over from last season..The D looked fine and ready to take out the seattle loss on teams this year...

I've been saying our O-Line is overrated since Aaron Brooks was running for his life because of it. Nothing has changed IMO, and Drew makes up for a lot of it. Oh how I long for a line similar to the one the Cowboys won all those Championships behind in the 90s.

FinSaint · 08-15-2011, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I've been saying our O-Line is overrated since Aaron Brooks was running for his life because of it. Nothing has changed IMO, and Drew makes up for a lot of it. Oh how I long for a line similar to the one the Cowboys won all those Championships behind in the 90s.

I don't know if I would want to exchange the guards the Saints have at the moment for anyone else in the league - Nicks needs to get a long term contract.
The main weakness remains at the tackle position, but I would evaluate even those spots to be better than average compared to the rest of the league.
It's hard to say anything about the center position yet, but I have to say that I was very impressed with Korey Hall's blocking even though the sample was very limited - he'll definitely be an upgrade in that regard to Evans.

Bringing up Brooks and Brees in the same sentence is unfair to both of them, but for very different reasons.

Rugby Saint II · 08-15-2011, 02:57 PM

It's really too early and I don't have film to study so I'm really listening to what ya'll are saying.
From an overall view point the Oline stunk. No open holes and not enough time for the QB.(mostly) In '09 Bushrod had plenty of help and now it seems that he isn't getting much help. That's one wink link........the other one is that Stinchcomb has gone down hill fast since '09. I wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in a lot more players to compete at RT. Maybe a trade in the future.

Luda34 · 08-15-2011, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

I like the blanket comment "everyone must be watching the ball while I am watching the line." when I re-watch a game it allows for me to watch the line play.......stinch did not look good. As I stated in my post, he got beat to the inside. How do I know this? I watched him from beginning to end. I think the fact that Strief is competing for the starting role says alot about how the coaches feel.

Strief looked like s&*t against second and third string guys and he wants to start.

08-15-2011, 10:21 AM	#33
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by strato I am worried about the line as whole or lack thereof for the RBs...i dont know about everyone else...but i re-watched the game last night and there was no running room for the RBs...i kinda think our 0- line is overrated a tad bit..the First sting offense was out of sync bad..I hope that gets better soon and doesnt carry over from last season..The D looked fine and ready to take out the seattle loss on teams this year... Exactly what I saw too. The SF D-line won their LOS battle, and it wasn't close. strato likes this.

08-15-2011, 11:45 AM	#36
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Originally Posted by alexonfyre I am curious, do you think our O-line might have been sold out by Goody? I mean, he probably could have told them how to get around each of the blocking schemes and how to recognize them, which made their line look a lot better than they actually are. It's possible but offensive lineman still have to have good technique. There is only so much Goody could have told them that would help. Not enough to completely shut us down like they did. Our first unit better get their **** straight.

08-15-2011, 01:12 PM	#37
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by strato I am worried about the line as whole or lack thereof for the RBs...i dont know about everyone else...but i re-watched the game last night and there was no running room for the RBs...i kinda think our 0- line is overrated a tad bit..the First sting offense was out of sync bad..I hope that gets better soon and doesnt carry over from last season..The D looked fine and ready to take out the seattle loss on teams this year... I've been saying our O-Line is overrated since Aaron Brooks was running for his life because of it. Nothing has changed IMO, and Drew makes up for a lot of it. Oh how I long for a line similar to the one the Cowboys won all those Championships behind in the 90s.

08-15-2011, 02:20 PM	#38
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by saintfan I've been saying our O-Line is overrated since Aaron Brooks was running for his life because of it. Nothing has changed IMO, and Drew makes up for a lot of it. Oh how I long for a line similar to the one the Cowboys won all those Championships behind in the 90s. I don't know if I would want to exchange the guards the Saints have at the moment for anyone else in the league - Nicks needs to get a long term contract. The main weakness remains at the tackle position, but I would evaluate even those spots to be better than average compared to the rest of the league. It's hard to say anything about the center position yet, but I have to say that I was very impressed with Korey Hall's blocking even though the sample was very limited - he'll definitely be an upgrade in that regard to Evans. Bringing up Brooks and Brees in the same sentence is unfair to both of them, but for very different reasons.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

08-15-2011, 02:57 PM	#39
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	It's really too early and I don't have film to study so I'm really listening to what ya'll are saying. From an overall view point the Oline stunk. No open holes and not enough time for the QB.(mostly) In '09 Bushrod had plenty of help and now it seems that he isn't getting much help. That's one wink link........the other one is that Stinchcomb has gone down hill fast since '09. I wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in a lot more players to compete at RT. Maybe a trade in the future.
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08-15-2011, 10:05 AM	#31
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	I am excited for the season, so I keep posting. This is my fairness post. In all fairness Strief was getting beat by the same guy. On the chase Daniel run, he was flushed by poor blocking from strief.

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08-15-2011, 10:16 AM	#32
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I am worried about the line as whole or lack thereof for the RBs...i dont know about everyone else...but i re-watched the game last night and there was no running room for the RBs...i kinda think our 0- line is overrated a tad bit..the First sting offense was out of sync bad..I hope that gets better soon and doesnt carry over from last season..The D looked fine and ready to take out the seattle loss on teams this year...

08-15-2011, 10:23 AM	#34
Maverick2299 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: VA Posts: 368	we will definitely know after this next pre-season game. Hopefully Sean and the O-line coach, get it under control.

08-15-2011, 11:20 AM	#35
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	I am curious, do you think our O-line might have been sold out by Goody? I mean, he probably could have told them how to get around each of the blocking schemes and how to recognize them, which made their line look a lot better than they actually are.

08-15-2011, 03:03 PM	#40
Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	Originally Posted by mighty12 I like the blanket comment "everyone must be watching the ball while I am watching the line." when I re-watch a game it allows for me to watch the line play.......stinch did not look good. As I stated in my post, he got beat to the inside. How do I know this? I watched him from beginning to end. I think the fact that Strief is competing for the starting role says alot about how the coaches feel. Strief looked like s&*t against second and third string guys and he wants to start.