Brees not looking so hot this camp

Euphoria · 08-17-2011, 11:43 PM

LOL, yes its sort of like holding him back to not give up what he is capable off until the games start after how many years he has put up gawdy numberts...

Although we could go with Chase as the starter... I mean at this point Chase has more "upside".

foreverfan · 08-18-2011, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

I hope it's a sign that we are going to have one hell of a defense this year.

Proof that Greg Williams can make anyone look bad.

Cory9289 · 08-18-2011, 01:43 AM

Just out of sync in my opinion.

Memnoch_TP · 08-18-2011, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

LOL, yes its sort of like holding him back to not give up what he is capable off until the games start after how many years he has put up gawdy numberts...

Although we could go with Chase as the starter... I mean at this point Chase has more "upside".

I don't know whether to agree with you or slap you until your teeth rattle.

crawgator · 08-18-2011, 04:18 AM

Maybe Drew looks bad.. I hope to see the Saints when They come to California,, But a lot of this has to do with the defense he is playing with.. All in all it should make him better come season opener.. I don't think it should be anything to worry about.. Also remember this off season Drew was busy trying to get football going. That also maybe a factor in all this.. But If I know Drew he will shake this off, just like everything else.. He is to much of a competitor...

GEAUX SAINTS

NOS2SB · 08-18-2011, 05:30 AM

Bet he throws a TD vs the Texans this weekend.

spkb25 · 08-18-2011, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It seems to me the offense struggled at camp in '09 when GW brought his defense to play his first year. The competition will only make the Oline better and learn how to play together in a hurry.

I was wondering the same thing, but I remember as the preseason went we really looked in tune. I am hoping that in the next two games we really show some consistency.

spkb25 · 08-18-2011, 05:56 AM

I am a little worried because on NOLA some of what they're saying leads you to believe the o is struggling a little. Hope it is just that our D is going to be really good this year

spkb25 · 08-18-2011, 06:45 AM

2009 brees was 6-9 88 yards 1 td first game, 9-14 87 yards 1 td second game. Liked to see the play better this saturday

Strangely our second preseason and third preseason games in 09 were houston and oakland, just like this year. Is this a sign?

FinSaint · 08-18-2011, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Although we could go with Chase as the starter... I mean at this point Chase has more "upside".

I know your joking, but I don't fully agree with your definition of "upside," because as I see it Daniels doesn't have the skill-set or the potential to ever reach the level that Brees is at this moment or will be when he finally retires someday.

When I mention the "upside" of a certain player, I always refer to his potential to be better than the other guy I'm comparing him to. As I understand it, you consider the whole concept of "upside" as ridiculous, and like to evaluate players based on their abilities and performance at the current moment with no regard to the near future. Still, I would think that there is something to be said about thinking ahead, which is how "dynasty-like" franchises are made.

Please don't take this as an attack on your point of view... just as a comment to your previous comments about the subject.

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crawgator 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ridgecrest, Ca Posts: 187 Blog Entries: 1	Maybe Drew looks bad.. I hope to see the Saints when They come to California,, But a lot of this has to do with the defense he is playing with.. All in all it should make him better come season opener.. I don't think it should be anything to worry about.. Also remember this off season Drew was busy trying to get football going. That also maybe a factor in all this.. But If I know Drew he will shake this off, just like everything else.. He is to much of a competitor... GEAUX SAINTS

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It seems to me the offense struggled at camp in '09 when GW brought his defense to play his first year. The competition will only make the Oline better and learn how to play together in a hurry. I was wondering the same thing, but I remember as the preseason went we really looked in tune. I am hoping that in the next two games we really show some consistency.

08-18-2011, 05:56 AM	#48
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	I am a little worried because on NOLA some of what they're saying leads you to believe the o is struggling a little. Hope it is just that our D is going to be really good this year

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	2009 brees was 6-9 88 yards 1 td first game, 9-14 87 yards 1 td second game. Liked to see the play better this saturday Strangely our second preseason and third preseason games in 09 were houston and oakland, just like this year. Is this a sign?

08-18-2011, 07:06 AM	#50
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Euphoria Although we could go with Chase as the starter... I mean at this point Chase has more "upside". I know your joking, but I don't fully agree with your definition of "upside," because as I see it Daniels doesn't have the skill-set or the potential to ever reach the level that Brees is at this moment or will be when he finally retires someday. When I mention the "upside" of a certain player, I always refer to his potential to be better than the other guy I'm comparing him to. As I understand it, you consider the whole concept of "upside" as ridiculous, and like to evaluate players based on their abilities and performance at the current moment with no regard to the near future. Still, I would think that there is something to be said about thinking ahead, which is how "dynasty-like" franchises are made. Please don't take this as an attack on your point of view... just as a comment to your previous comments about the subject.
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