Brees keeping close tabs on changing O-Line

FinSaint · 08-20-2011, 07:54 AM

OK, this will not help the O-Line this season, but I wonder if Joe Thomas could be available next off-season. He signed a 6-year contract with the Browns in 2007 worth $43 million, $23 million guaranteed, including a voidable year.

So if this is his 5th year of that contract... I wonder what that "voidable year" really means? Could it mean that he hits the FA next off-season after 5 years of that contract? He is somebody I would be willing to invest heavily on monetary-wise... of course first signing Brees and Nicks to long-term contracts.

He could very well be willing to follow Rogers from a losing team to a winner and a constant contender... even for little less than what he might get elsewhere?! Well, one can always dream I guess...

Seer1 · 08-20-2011, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

OK, this will not help the O-Line this season, but I wonder if Joe Thomas could be available next off-season. He signed a 6-year contract with the Browns in 2007 worth $43 million, $23 million guaranteed, including a voidable year.

So if this is his 5th year of that contract... I wonder what that "voidable year" really means? Could it mean that he hits the FA next off-season after 5 years of that contract? He is somebody I would be willing to invest heavily on monetary-wise... of course first signing Brees and Nicks to long-term contracts.

He could very well be willing to follow Rogers from a losing team to a winner and a constant contender... even for little less than what he might get elsewhere?! Well, one can always dream I guess...

Cleveland could do okay this year. And maybe, just maybe our current OL could end up being a pleasant surprise.

FinSaint · 08-20-2011, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Cleveland could do okay this year. And maybe, just maybe our current OL could end up being a pleasant surprise.

Yes, well I would say that the Browns going into the playoffs is a long shot at best. They might wins some games, but ultimately they're clearly not a contender team.

The Saints' O-Line could very well be good enough to win another ring... I'm not saying that they aren't. I'm merely bringing up this point for speculations sake, because surely Joe Thomas is a player of the highest caliber, and if there was any chance of signing him given certain conditions - only a fool would not take him up on it.

I'm also curious about the "voidable year" in his contract. Is it both ways, just the team or Thomas himself, who can decide on the optional year... or is it based on certain predetermined performance-based variables?!

Seer1 · 08-20-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Yes, well I would say that the Browns going into the playoffs is a long shot at best. They might wins some games, but ultimately they're clearly not a contender team.

The Saints' O-Line could very well be good enough to win another ring... I'm not saying that they aren't. I'm merely bringing up this point for speculations sake, because surely Joe Thomas is a player of the highest caliber, and if there was any chance of signing him given certain conditions - only a fool would not take him up on it.

I'm also curious about the "voidable year" in his contract. Is it both ways, just the team or Thomas himself, who can decide on the optional year... or is it based on certain predetermined performance-based variables?!

Aww c'mon, Cleveland knocking the Steelers or Ravens out? It could happen

No doubt Thomas is a fantastic tackle. If he moves somewhere else, he'll be getting an even bigger paycheck to go. I wonder how much Benson and Loomis are willing to spend for a tackle.

FinSaint · 08-20-2011, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Aww c'mon, Cleveland knocking the Steelers or Ravens out? It could happen No doubt Thomas is a fantastic tackle. If he moves somewhere else, he'll be getting an even bigger paycheck to go. I wonder how much Benson and Loomis are willing to spend for a tackle.

That's why I was wondering/hoping if he would do the same as Rodgers, because Shaun had a killer 2011 season with the Saints and won the SB... maybe he'd be willing to sing for less like Rodgers did as well?!

Yeah and I know it's highly unlikely 'cos next off-season there'll be teams spending like crazy to get to the mandatory cap floor... like the Bucs for one.

FinSaint · 08-21-2011, 01:59 PM

Based on the Texans game I would have to believe that Strief has a pretty big lead on Brown as the starter at RT. Strief wasn't perfect, but I think he held his own compared to Brown. I don't know if that sack/fumble play was him messing up or if it was Tennant's screw up on the snap count, but Charlie-boy looked especially bad on that one... well at least he recovered the fumble.

Maverick2299 · 08-21-2011, 03:28 PM

The fumble was all on Brees....as a QB you have to know when to get rid of the ball. I know you wanna make the play, but you got a guy about to eat you.

strato · 08-21-2011, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Maverick2299

The fumble was all on Brees....as a QB you have to know when to get rid of the ball. I know you wanna make the play, but you got a guy about to eat you.

He didnt have time...nada

Maverick2299 · 08-21-2011, 04:01 PM

if you don't got time tuck it away, take the sack. You cant have it out that far from your body....that's what vick does.

He had 3 seconds before he was touched, that's time for a QB...but again tuck it away something...but don't have it out like that.

strato · 08-21-2011, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Maverick2299

if you don't got time tuck it away, take the sack. You cant have it out that far from your body....that's what vick does.

He had 3 seconds before he was touched, that's time for a QB...but again tuck it away something...but don't have it out like that.

If you go back and look Smith got Drews arm up keeping him from the tuck...its on the O-Line for not blocking..just watched it again....he had no chance..

08-20-2011, 07:54 AM	#11
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	OK, this will not help the O-Line this season, but I wonder if Joe Thomas could be available next off-season. He signed a 6-year contract with the Browns in 2007 worth $43 million, $23 million guaranteed, including a voidable year. So if this is his 5th year of that contract... I wonder what that "voidable year" really means? Could it mean that he hits the FA next off-season after 5 years of that contract? He is somebody I would be willing to invest heavily on monetary-wise... of course first signing Brees and Nicks to long-term contracts. He could very well be willing to follow Rogers from a losing team to a winner and a constant contender... even for little less than what he might get elsewhere?! Well, one can always dream I guess...
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08-20-2011, 10:55 AM	#12
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by FinSaint OK, this will not help the O-Line this season, but I wonder if Joe Thomas could be available next off-season. He signed a 6-year contract with the Browns in 2007 worth $43 million, $23 million guaranteed, including a voidable year. So if this is his 5th year of that contract... I wonder what that "voidable year" really means? Could it mean that he hits the FA next off-season after 5 years of that contract? He is somebody I would be willing to invest heavily on monetary-wise... of course first signing Brees and Nicks to long-term contracts. He could very well be willing to follow Rogers from a losing team to a winner and a constant contender... even for little less than what he might get elsewhere?! Well, one can always dream I guess... Cleveland could do okay this year. And maybe, just maybe our current OL could end up being a pleasant surprise.

08-20-2011, 02:02 PM	#13
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by Seer1 Cleveland could do okay this year. And maybe, just maybe our current OL could end up being a pleasant surprise. Yes, well I would say that the Browns going into the playoffs is a long shot at best. They might wins some games, but ultimately they're clearly not a contender team. The Saints' O-Line could very well be good enough to win another ring... I'm not saying that they aren't. I'm merely bringing up this point for speculations sake, because surely Joe Thomas is a player of the highest caliber, and if there was any chance of signing him given certain conditions - only a fool would not take him up on it. I'm also curious about the "voidable year" in his contract. Is it both ways, just the team or Thomas himself, who can decide on the optional year... or is it based on certain predetermined performance-based variables?!
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

08-20-2011, 02:46 PM	#14
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by FinSaint Yes, well I would say that the Browns going into the playoffs is a long shot at best. They might wins some games, but ultimately they're clearly not a contender team. The Saints' O-Line could very well be good enough to win another ring... I'm not saying that they aren't. I'm merely bringing up this point for speculations sake, because surely Joe Thomas is a player of the highest caliber, and if there was any chance of signing him given certain conditions - only a fool would not take him up on it. I'm also curious about the "voidable year" in his contract. Is it both ways, just the team or Thomas himself, who can decide on the optional year... or is it based on certain predetermined performance-based variables?! Aww c'mon, Cleveland knocking the Steelers or Ravens out? It could happen No doubt Thomas is a fantastic tackle. If he moves somewhere else, he'll be getting an even bigger paycheck to go. I wonder how much Benson and Loomis are willing to spend for a tackle.

08-20-2011, 05:05 PM	#15
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by Seer1 Aww c'mon, Cleveland knocking the Steelers or Ravens out? It could happen No doubt Thomas is a fantastic tackle. If he moves somewhere else, he'll be getting an even bigger paycheck to go. I wonder how much Benson and Loomis are willing to spend for a tackle. That's why I was wondering/hoping if he would do the same as Rodgers, because Shaun had a killer 2011 season with the Saints and won the SB... maybe he'd be willing to sing for less like Rodgers did as well?! Yeah and I know it's highly unlikely 'cos next off-season there'll be teams spending like crazy to get to the mandatory cap floor... like the Bucs for one.

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08-21-2011, 01:59 PM	#16
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Based on the Texans game I would have to believe that Strief has a pretty big lead on Brown as the starter at RT. Strief wasn't perfect, but I think he held his own compared to Brown. I don't know if that sack/fumble play was him messing up or if it was Tennant's screw up on the snap count, but Charlie-boy looked especially bad on that one... well at least he recovered the fumble.

08-21-2011, 03:28 PM	#17
Maverick2299 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: VA Posts: 368	The fumble was all on Brees....as a QB you have to know when to get rid of the ball. I know you wanna make the play, but you got a guy about to eat you.

08-21-2011, 03:47 PM	#18
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Maverick2299 The fumble was all on Brees....as a QB you have to know when to get rid of the ball. I know you wanna make the play, but you got a guy about to eat you. He didnt have time...nada

08-21-2011, 04:01 PM	#19
Maverick2299 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: VA Posts: 368	if you don't got time tuck it away, take the sack. You cant have it out that far from your body....that's what vick does. He had 3 seconds before he was touched, that's time for a QB...but again tuck it away something...but don't have it out like that.

08-21-2011, 04:08 PM	#20
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Maverick2299 if you don't got time tuck it away, take the sack. You cant have it out that far from your body....that's what vick does. He had 3 seconds before he was touched, that's time for a QB...but again tuck it away something...but don't have it out like that. If you go back and look Smith got Drews arm up keeping him from the tuck...its on the O-Line for not blocking..just watched it again....he had no chance..

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