Does the 2011 Defense have a chance to outshine the Dome Patrol?

Danno · 08-17-2011, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

lb - no
DL - close call but i have to go with a maybe
Secondary - yes

^^This^^

Vilma wouldn't crack the starting lineup on the dome patrol defenses.

The D-line is a definite maybe (if they progress as expected)

The secondary is our best ever.

alexonfyre · 08-17-2011, 08:59 AM

I think if you don't compare position by position, which is meaningless, and look at output, you will see that this D has a lot of potential to match that.
When the Dome Patrol was playing, the NFL was a run-first league, and our conference basically invented and perfected the West Coast offense, short, high percentage passes over the middle and at the sidelines. The Patrol was built to stop that, and it did it spectacularly.

Now, we have a defense which already has 3 potential probowlers on the line, and two in the secondary, in a league that is pass-first "Year of the Quarterback" and a conference full of big receivers, high profile TEs and upper-tier QBs (Carolina remains to be seen.)
What we are talking about is a defense with the same training and pedigree as the 2009 turnover machine, without the "all or nothing" mentality, since we have 3 guys who alone can put pressure and stuff the run while our killer secondary hawks for the ball.

It is really an apples to oranges comparison, since they were built to do different things, and the stats are going to be much much different (the DP had low yardage, low scores, this group will have higher INTs, FFs and sacks, but could still give up large amounts of yardage.)
Though it wouldn't surprise me at all for the "post-Superbowl" 2010-2012 Saints to be known as a defensive powerhouse more than an offensive one. Which is fine by me, win the games however you can do it boys.

08-17-2011, 08:42 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Originally Posted by hagan714 lb - no DL - close call but i have to go with a maybe Secondary - yes ^^This^^ Vilma wouldn't crack the starting lineup on the dome patrol defenses. The D-line is a definite maybe (if they progress as expected) The secondary is our best ever.

08-17-2011, 08:59 AM	#2
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	I think if you don't compare position by position, which is meaningless, and look at output, you will see that this D has a lot of potential to match that. When the Dome Patrol was playing, the NFL was a run-first league, and our conference basically invented and perfected the West Coast offense, short, high percentage passes over the middle and at the sidelines. The Patrol was built to stop that, and it did it spectacularly. Now, we have a defense which already has 3 potential probowlers on the line, and two in the secondary, in a league that is pass-first "Year of the Quarterback" and a conference full of big receivers, high profile TEs and upper-tier QBs (Carolina remains to be seen.) What we are talking about is a defense with the same training and pedigree as the 2009 turnover machine, without the "all or nothing" mentality, since we have 3 guys who alone can put pressure and stuff the run while our killer secondary hawks for the ball. It is really an apples to oranges comparison, since they were built to do different things, and the stats are going to be much much different (the DP had low yardage, low scores, this group will have higher INTs, FFs and sacks, but could still give up large amounts of yardage.) Though it wouldn't surprise me at all for the "post-Superbowl" 2010-2012 Saints to be known as a defensive powerhouse more than an offensive one. Which is fine by me, win the games however you can do it boys.