Saints Practice Report: 7th round pick Bussey standing out

08-19-2011, 12:51 PM

I also would rather see this kid make the team with the upside he has. But we are playing for the "Now". So saying that if Shanle is a better fit how can we let him go?

Danno · 08-19-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I also would rather see this kid make the team with the upside he has. But we are playing for the "Now". So saying that if Shanle is a better fit how can we let him go?

You have to weigh team future versus win now.

Would winning now be compromised if Shanle was released and everyone else stepped up a notch?

We aren't comparing Shanle to Bussey, we're comparing Shanle to his the next man up. Bussey would simply be the low man on the totem pole.

I wanna win now just like everyone else, but it should also be balanced with an eye on the future. Cam Jordan may not be our 4th best DE, but I guarantee you in a year or two he will be. So we keep Jordan, even though he's probably not our 4th best DE on this team come week one.

Ashley · 08-19-2011, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You have to weigh team future versus win now.

Would winning now be compromised if Shanle was released and everyone else stepped up a notch?

We aren't comparing Shanle to Bussey, we're comparing Shanle to his the next man up. Bussey would simply be the low man on the totem pole.

I wanna win now just like everyone else, but it should also be balanced with an eye on the future. Cam Jordan may not be our 4th best DE, but I guarantee you in a year or two he will be. So we keep Jordan, even though he's probably not our 4th best DE on this team come week one.

Point well made, I was just using him for an example, Bussey is no Shanle.
Shanle might get beat out this year, so if he does that's why I threw him under the bus. Chances are this kid might not make the team.

Cruize · 08-19-2011, 06:47 PM

Shanle is a LOCK. Ingram is the odd man out unless he gets healthy quick and really makes some plays. It always comes down to injuries and a numbers game, and with so many injuries at other positions, Bussey is facing an uphill battle. The good news is he's a lock for the practice squad. No other team is going to add a 7th round tweener/project player to their active roster.

Cruize · 08-20-2011, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Shanle is not a "lock." Ask Stenchcomb.

Shanle can start at both OLB positions. The Saints are not going to go into the season with a new guy in Herring who has never been a permanent starter in his career and JC who is essentially a rookie coming off an injury as there starters with absolutely no experience or depth behind them. It's not going to happen. There is no comparison in Shanle and Stinchcomb. Shanle is healthy and his play hasn't decreased in a dramatic fashion. I'm not a fan of Shanle. He's above average with no playmaking skills. But, overall, right now taking all factors into consideration, he's the second best LB on the team. He is a lock.

Cruize · 08-20-2011, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Who says Herring will start? He showed nothing last week.

Another reason Shanle is a lock. LOL. I wish someone else would step up. I hope that the young guys rise to the challenge. But, until they do, a team primed for a Super Bowl run is just not going to throw someone out there and hope for the best. Shanle is at the very least, which is no doubt where he is, good enough to get the job done. He's like Bushrod. Far from ideal but good enough to win with.

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Threaded by Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760 Rating: (0 votes - average) I also would rather see this kid make the team with the upside he has. But we are playing for the "Now". So saying that if Shanle is a better fit how can we let him go?
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08-19-2011, 03:52 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by Ashley I also would rather see this kid make the team with the upside he has. But we are playing for the "Now". So saying that if Shanle is a better fit how can we let him go? You have to weigh team future versus win now. Would winning now be compromised if Shanle was released and everyone else stepped up a notch? We aren't comparing Shanle to Bussey, we're comparing Shanle to his the next man up. Bussey would simply be the low man on the totem pole. I wanna win now just like everyone else, but it should also be balanced with an eye on the future. Cam Jordan may not be our 4th best DE, but I guarantee you in a year or two he will be. So we keep Jordan, even though he's probably not our 4th best DE on this team come week one.

08-19-2011, 04:03 PM	#13
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Originally Posted by Danno You have to weigh team future versus win now. Would winning now be compromised if Shanle was released and everyone else stepped up a notch? We aren't comparing Shanle to Bussey, we're comparing Shanle to his the next man up. Bussey would simply be the low man on the totem pole. I wanna win now just like everyone else, but it should also be balanced with an eye on the future. Cam Jordan may not be our 4th best DE, but I guarantee you in a year or two he will be. So we keep Jordan, even though he's probably not our 4th best DE on this team come week one. Point well made, I was just using him for an example, Bussey is no Shanle. Shanle might get beat out this year, so if he does that's why I threw him under the bus. Chances are this kid might not make the team.

08-19-2011, 06:47 PM	#14
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Shanle is a LOCK. Ingram is the odd man out unless he gets healthy quick and really makes some plays. It always comes down to injuries and a numbers game, and with so many injuries at other positions, Bussey is facing an uphill battle. The good news is he's a lock for the practice squad. No other team is going to add a 7th round tweener/project player to their active roster.
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08-20-2011, 08:50 AM	#15
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Shanle is not a "lock." Ask Stenchcomb. Shanle can start at both OLB positions. The Saints are not going to go into the season with a new guy in Herring who has never been a permanent starter in his career and JC who is essentially a rookie coming off an injury as there starters with absolutely no experience or depth behind them. It's not going to happen. There is no comparison in Shanle and Stinchcomb. Shanle is healthy and his play hasn't decreased in a dramatic fashion. I'm not a fan of Shanle. He's above average with no playmaking skills. But, overall, right now taking all factors into consideration, he's the second best LB on the team. He is a lock.
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08-20-2011, 12:29 PM	#16
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Who says Herring will start? He showed nothing last week. Another reason Shanle is a lock. LOL. I wish someone else would step up. I hope that the young guys rise to the challenge. But, until they do, a team primed for a Super Bowl run is just not going to throw someone out there and hope for the best. Shanle is at the very least, which is no doubt where he is, good enough to get the job done. He's like Bushrod. Far from ideal but good enough to win with.
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