Defense still a work in progress

WhoDat!656 · 08-28-2011, 10:08 PM

Defense still sucks against the run.

strato · 08-28-2011, 10:09 PM

but we run it just as good..lol

WhoDat!656 · 08-28-2011, 10:14 PM

Still would like to see defense get some three and outs

|Mitch| · 08-28-2011, 10:33 PM

Like Vilma just said in his press conference. Preseason games are different than regular season games, vanilla defenses against vanilla offenses. they don't game-plan for these teams.

With that said, he says they still have to work on the early missed tackles, but they were better than last week...

SAINT_MICHAEL · 08-28-2011, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Like Vilma just said in his press conference. Preseason games are different than regular season games, vanilla defenses against vanilla offenses. they don't game-plan for these teams.

With that said, he says they still have to work on the early missed tackles, but they were better than last week...

Well, the vanilla first string defense has gotten it's ass kicked two weeks in a row now. Sugar coat it how you want, they have sucked

Danno · 08-28-2011, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

Well, the vanilla first string defense has gotten it's ass kicked two weeks in a row now. Sugar coat it how you want, they have sucked

Gotta agree somewhat. Vanilla is no excuse for those pathetic arm tackles.

FinSaint · 08-29-2011, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

Well, the vanilla first string defense has gotten it's ass kicked two weeks in a row now. Sugar coat it how you want, they have sucked

Yeah, and it was Vilma himself (I think) who said in an interview that the vanilla D is the core of the D and that is when the defense should be at its best or at its most solid, because all other D packages and schemes have their foundation in the vanilla D.

SaintsBro · 08-29-2011, 09:51 AM

I am very skeptical of this D. The offense looks good, when they're picking on rookies and going for it on 4th down practically every single time. But with the starters in, we were basically in a shootout with an 8-8 team that didn't have most of their main offensive weapons. Has this defense made a STOP or taken a STAND yet in preseason, against starters, other than San Francisco, who were just plain TURRIBLE on offense (and when everyone on both squads had just put the uniforms and pads back on, for the first time in months). Except for Jenkins' nice play in the end zone, I scratch my head and can't think of one single instance this preseason where I was really liking what I saw in the D, or where they dictated the game or made a "statement." We have our first three games against three really good offensive teams. Not a good sign.

Marlboro Man · 08-28-2011, 10:35 PM

Our D just doesn't set the edge or contain very well at all. Just an observation.

Danno · 08-28-2011, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Our D just doesn't set the edge or contain very well at all. Just an observation.

Yep, every big play was a bounce outside. They made a lot of out perimeter defenders look bad. I saw a whole lot of arm tackles and whiffs.

08-28-2011, 10:08 PM	#1
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SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Like Vilma just said in his press conference. Preseason games are different than regular season games, vanilla defenses against vanilla offenses. they don't game-plan for these teams. With that said, he says they still have to work on the early missed tackles, but they were better than last week... Well, the vanilla first string defense has gotten it's ass kicked two weeks in a row now. Sugar coat it how you want, they have sucked
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL Well, the vanilla first string defense has gotten it's ass kicked two weeks in a row now. Sugar coat it how you want, they have sucked Gotta agree somewhat. Vanilla is no excuse for those pathetic arm tackles. darstep likes this.

08-29-2011, 09:41 AM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL Well, the vanilla first string defense has gotten it's ass kicked two weeks in a row now. Sugar coat it how you want, they have sucked Yeah, and it was Vilma himself (I think) who said in an interview that the vanilla D is the core of the D and that is when the defense should be at its best or at its most solid, because all other D packages and schemes have their foundation in the vanilla D.

08-28-2011, 10:38 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Our D just doesn't set the edge or contain very well at all. Just an observation. Yep, every big play was a bounce outside. They made a lot of out perimeter defenders look bad. I saw a whole lot of arm tackles and whiffs.

08-28-2011, 10:09 PM	#2
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	but we run it just as good..lol

08-28-2011, 10:14 PM	#3
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Still would like to see defense get some three and outs

08-28-2011, 10:33 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Like Vilma just said in his press conference. Preseason games are different than regular season games, vanilla defenses against vanilla offenses. they don't game-plan for these teams. With that said, he says they still have to work on the early missed tackles, but they were better than last week...

08-29-2011, 09:51 AM	#8
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	I am very skeptical of this D. The offense looks good, when they're picking on rookies and going for it on 4th down practically every single time. But with the starters in, we were basically in a shootout with an 8-8 team that didn't have most of their main offensive weapons. Has this defense made a STOP or taken a STAND yet in preseason, against starters, other than San Francisco, who were just plain TURRIBLE on offense (and when everyone on both squads had just put the uniforms and pads back on, for the first time in months). Except for Jenkins' nice play in the end zone, I scratch my head and can't think of one single instance this preseason where I was really liking what I saw in the D, or where they dictated the game or made a "statement." We have our first three games against three really good offensive teams. Not a good sign.

08-28-2011, 10:35 PM	#9
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Our D just doesn't set the edge or contain very well at all. Just an observation.

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